QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
He didn't injure it ON the hit. It is already injured and this triggered the pain.

not a football expert ✅
not a medical expert ✅

Originally posted by mayo49:
Purdy is Hella accurate, though. I'd rather have an average arm that is accurate, than a bazooka that is wild.

How about a bazooka that's accurate. I know they're hard to find but they do exist. Brock is accurate out to 20 yards. Like most QBs the accuracy is going to drop after that. His arm strength is an issue on deeper throws. Even when he completes them the recieive nearly always has to slow up to make the catch. Fans want a speedy receiver but if the QB can't lay the ball out in front it nullifies that speed.

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
You can win with Purdy but you will need some talent around him. Guys like Deebo, CMC, TW, BA, Bosa squeezing every last dime out of the organization doesnt help and if Brock tries the same thing, he will not be successful. Those guys did him no favours.

Complete nonsense. Talent around QBs has nothing to do with anything. Fan-created myth. QBs depend on their system. Period. That's it. Screenbo is an ATROCIOUS WR. Not a talent. Gadget guy who mails it in. Horrible fit for Brock.

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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Purdy is Hella accurate, though. I'd rather have an average arm that is accurate, than a bazooka that is wild.

How about a bazooka that's accurate. I know they're hard to find but they do exist. Brock is accurate out to 20 yards. Like most QBs the accuracy is going to drop after that. His arm strength is an issue on deeper throws. Even when he completes them the recieive nearly always has to slow up to make the catch. Fans want a speedy receiver but if the QB can't lay the ball out in front it nullifies that speed.

Brock is good enough for me. I'm looking for wins, not style points from my signal caller.

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
You can win with Purdy but you will need some talent around him. Guys like Deebo, CMC, TW, BA, Bosa squeezing every last dime out of the organization doesnt help and if Brock tries the same thing, he will not be successful. Those guys did him no favours.

Complete nonsense. Talent around QBs has nothing to do with anything. Fan-created myth. QBs depend on their system. Period. That's it. Screenbo is an ATROCIOUS WR. Not a talent. Gadget guy who mails it in. Horrible fit for Brock.

FootballExpert49ers....thats a high bar.

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:

Originally posted by JC_916:
I mean we can finally agree on Purdy not being good when game is on the line in 4th quarter, he has zero clutch DNA in his body. He is much more likely to throw a game losing INT than not. That book is written now, the film doesn't lie, and it's settled there is no argument to be made. I don't have to pull up his 4th quarter stats when 9ers need to pull ahead or win, that ship has sailed.

So the question is do you want to dish our 60+ million for that? Probably not folks. $45mil and call it a day. Enough of the BS now.

Again, what even is this? Why would you want to START a QB who plays that way?

A QB who does that is not the guy. You don't pay him anything more than backup money to be a backup.

You both sound like cowboy fans, I swear

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Purdy is Hella accurate, though. I'd rather have an average arm that is accurate, than a bazooka that is wild.

How about a bazooka that's accurate. I know they're hard to find but they do exist. Brock is accurate out to 20 yards. Like most QBs the accuracy is going to drop after that. His arm strength is an issue on deeper throws. Even when he completes them the recieive nearly always has to slow up to make the catch. Fans want a speedy receiver but if the QB can't lay the ball out in front it nullifies that speed.

Honestly he's not even that accurate. He's got a subpar arm and is small. He has to be elite with processing and anticipation. His mechanics aren't amazing either. He can't play in inclement weather apparently either

look he's a good QB. I think he's very dependent on the system and roster around him. He's a leader and seems like a good person. He's got moxie and Kyle likes him.

He's the QB now and will get paid. I don't think he's ever gonna be some guy that elite yr after yr and be the guy here for the next decade+

totally hope im wrong and he's the next Montana or whatever

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Thank god, doesn't sound like an ulnar issue. He just looked scared at the time, that had me worried. Thank god we might have averted the worst. Thanks, SanDiego.

lol that's literally what I said and the doc backed it up.

Who could blame him for being scared when his surgically repaired elbow felt like fire etc.

He said it was his whole arm, so everything could have been an issue.

Yes and that sensation can happen. I just recently got tmj in my left jaw and it radiates through my entire arm and neck. Yeah I was thinking I was having a damn heart attack lol. But it subsided after a week etc. (suck getting older!)

let's hope it was just that and he's fine otherwise we're f**ked.

Yeah TMJ sucks I have it too. Felt like every morning someone hit me in the Jaw. It gets better with time though and just flares up from time to time. Funny how the dentist says it's the jaw need a Dr and the Dr says you need to see your dentist.

Tendon injuries sick so hope that's not what's causing those errant throws by Brock. Looks great until the picks.

Originally posted by mayo49:
Brock is good enough for me. I'm looking for wins, not style points from my signal caller.

That was Jimmy all the same. We need that QB that can take over the 4th QR, not do the opposite. Brock is still young and in his 2nd full yr as the starter, there's room to grow….I hope the contract is fair with outs because we missed out on some great QBs because we kept "good enough" when we had Jimmy.

Originally posted by pd24:

Where do you guys stand on paying Brock top 5 money?

He is a good QB and you need a good QB to win, but you can't strip down the roster like Buffalo and KC and expect to win. Either way they are going to go through roster turnover with aging stars and high priced players that are coming back from injury that may not be the same.

Really f**king stupid not too.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Purdy is Hella accurate, though. I'd rather have an average arm that is accurate, than a bazooka that is wild.

How about a bazooka that's accurate. I know they're hard to find but they do exist. Brock is accurate out to 20 yards. Like most QBs the accuracy is going to drop after that. His arm strength is an issue on deeper throws. Even when he completes them the recieive nearly always has to slow up to make the catch. Fans want a speedy receiver but if the QB can't lay the ball out in front it nullifies that speed.

Honestly he's not even that accurate. He's got a subpar arm and is small. He has to be elite with processing and anticipation. His mechanics aren't amazing either. He can't play in inclement weather apparently either

look he's a good QB. I think he's very dependent on the system and roster around him. He's a leader and seems like a good person. He's got moxie and Kyle likes him.

He's the QB now and will get paid. I don't think he's ever gonna be some guy that elite yr after yr and be the guy here for the next decade+

totally hope im wrong and he's the next Montana or whatever

At 6'0", he's average not small. The guy from Arizona is small.

Some of the narratives that people believe in are just silly.

The idea that CMC had any effect whatsoever on Brock is among them.

Somehow, fans on this board think that a whopping 1400 yards rushing is some kind of game-changing thing. Never mind that Mike Anderson and Alfred Morris had more in the OZS. Never mind that the success of a RB has literally nothing to do with a QB's success throwing the football, which we will get to in a minute. Derrick Henry is currently at 1783 yards on 5.8 yards per carry with the Ravens. I don't see anybody crediting him for Lamar Jackson's success. Gee, I wonder why that is.

Here are some of the top RB seasons and the stats of the QBs who played with them:

Eric Dickerson, 1984: 2105 yards rushing.

Jeff Kemp, Rams' starting QB: 2021 yards, 50.4% completion, 7.1 yards per attempt, 13 TDs, 7 INTs.

Adrian Peterson, 2012, 2097 yards rushing.

Christian Ponder, Vikings' starting QB: 2935 yards, 62.1% completion, 6.1 yards per attempt, 18 TDs, 12 INTs.

Jamal Lewis, 2000, 2066 yards rushing.

Ravens' QBs, Kyle Boller, Anthony Wright, Chris Redman: 2255 yards, 52.3% completion, 6.1 yards per attempt, 16 TDs, 19 INTs.

Barry Sanders, 1997: 2053 yards rushing.

Scott Mitchell, Lions' starting QB: 3484 yards, 57.6% completion, 6.8 yards per attempt, 19 TDs, 14 INTs.

Christian McCaffrey himself played on the Panthers. Their QBs always sucked with him.

People keep crediting players who weren't even on the roster when the team made the SB with Jimmy. CMC was not on the 2019 49ers. Brandon Aiyuk was not on the 49ers. Screenbo, who is a horrible WR, was a rookie. Trent Williams was not on the 2019 49ers.

If you're going to credit anybody, you should credit Kyle Shanahan. At least that's logically consistent, even though it's clear that Kyle Shanahan is far from a genius. Crediting various players rather than the system is not in line with how football works. Unless you have some exception such as Randy Moss or Tyreek Hill who just dominates the game in a way where it transcends scheme, the players around the QB make minimal impact.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Purdy is Hella accurate, though. I'd rather have an average arm that is accurate, than a bazooka that is wild.

How about a bazooka that's accurate. I know they're hard to find but they do exist. Brock is accurate out to 20 yards. Like most QBs the accuracy is going to drop after that. His arm strength is an issue on deeper throws. Even when he completes them the recieive nearly always has to slow up to make the catch. Fans want a speedy receiver but if the QB can't lay the ball out in front it nullifies that speed.

Honestly he's not even that accurate. He's got a subpar arm and is small. He has to be elite with processing and anticipation. His mechanics aren't amazing either. He can't play in inclement weather apparently either

look he's a good QB. I think he's very dependent on the system and roster around him. He's a leader and seems like a good person. He's got moxie and Kyle likes him.

He's the QB now and will get paid. I don't think he's ever gonna be some guy that elite yr after yr and be the guy here for the next decade+

totally hope im wrong and he's the next Montana or whatever

At 6'0", he's average not small. The guy from Arizona is small.

Average nfl height is 6'3" so brock is small.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Still waiting....

I'm the one that's waiting for you to provide the rest of the stats lol?

why wait for stats? stats are for fools

Stats are helpful with painting a picture and talking to people who can't digest the game film wise (that's most of us).

using stats for confirmation bias is annoying. Give all the information and let's talk about it.

Is Brock better than Jordan Love? I think love is better and has a better arm.