QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Purdy is Hella accurate, though. I'd rather have an average arm that is accurate, than a bazooka that is wild.

How about a bazooka that's accurate. I know they're hard to find but they do exist. Brock is accurate out to 20 yards. Like most QBs the accuracy is going to drop after that. His arm strength is an issue on deeper throws. Even when he completes them the recieive nearly always has to slow up to make the catch. Fans want a speedy receiver but if the QB can't lay the ball out in front it nullifies that speed.

Honestly he's not even that accurate. He's got a subpar arm and is small. He has to be elite with processing and anticipation. His mechanics aren't amazing either. He can't play in inclement weather apparently either

look he's a good QB. I think he's very dependent on the system and roster around him. He's a leader and seems like a good person. He's got moxie and Kyle likes him.

He's the QB now and will get paid. I don't think he's ever gonna be some guy that elite yr after yr and be the guy here for the next decade+

totally hope im wrong and he's the next Montana or whatever

At 6'0", he's average not small. The guy from Arizona is small.

He's below the NFL average of 6'3". It wouldn't matter as much if they had a better interior line that could keep defense fromcollapsing the pocket. It's why he seems better sometimes when he rolls out and can get a clearer look downfield. Whatever he can't throw those bad passes when the game is on the line. Both of those INTs resulted in scores for the Lions and flipped the game.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Honestly he's not even that accurate. He's got a subpar arm and is small. He has to be elite with processing and anticipation. His mechanics aren't amazing either. He can't play in inclement weather apparently either

look he's a good QB. I think he's very dependent on the system and roster around him. He's a leader and seems like a good person. He's got moxie and Kyle likes him.

He's the QB now and will get paid. I don't think he's ever gonna be some guy that elite yr after yr and be the guy here for the next decade+

totally hope im wrong and he's the next Montana or whatever

yup. feels like a square peg in a round hole situation. i think the ideal shanny system QB, would have the arm talent to back safeties off. you want two deep vs the kyle run game. and we seem to have the weakest arm in the game here. i just don't get it. has shanny ever had a QB who can put it downfield or distort the D by running the ball? we may want to ask what traits we look for in the position, then go find that guy. that's on shanny at the end of the day tho. he made his move for lance and we saw how that went. even after that, you have a very toolsy guy in the bldg in sam and he never got any real action here. we have committed to brock by giving him all the starts. shanny's downfall may be him thinking he can make any guy work in his system, rather than getting someone ideally suited for his system.

Originally posted by mayo49:
At 6'0", he's average not small. The guy from Arizona is small.

These are Brock's measureables compared to the rest of the QBs drafted since the combine was a thing


Dude is small in every sense of the word with every measurable they track for a QB.

Originally posted by pd24:
Is Brock better than Jordan Love? I think love is better and has a better arm.

Love is not very good....so far. Showed some glimpses last year but pretty meh this year.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Purdy is Hella accurate, though. I'd rather have an average arm that is accurate, than a bazooka that is wild.

How about a bazooka that's accurate. I know they're hard to find but they do exist. Brock is accurate out to 20 yards. Like most QBs the accuracy is going to drop after that. His arm strength is an issue on deeper throws. Even when he completes them the recieive nearly always has to slow up to make the catch. Fans want a speedy receiver but if the QB can't lay the ball out in front it nullifies that speed.

Honestly he's not even that accurate. He's got a subpar arm and is small. He has to be elite with processing and anticipation. His mechanics aren't amazing either. He can't play in inclement weather apparently either

look he's a good QB. I think he's very dependent on the system and roster around him. He's a leader and seems like a good person. He's got moxie and Kyle likes him.

He's the QB now and will get paid. I don't think he's ever gonna be some guy that elite yr after yr and be the guy here for the next decade+

totally hope im wrong and he's the next Montana or whatever

That's about right.

Originally posted by pd24:
Is Brock better than Jordan Love? I think love is better and has a better arm.

Take away Jordan Loves O-line, Doubs, Jayden Reed, Christian Watson, Josh Jacobs and three RB's behind him, one of their star LB's, Kenny Clark, Xavier McKinney, then we'll talk.

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by pd24:
Is Brock better than Jordan Love? I think love is better and has a better arm.

Love is not very good....so far. Showed some glimpses last year but pretty meh this year.

i don't know what you are watching to say love isn't very good. the guy can just flat out spin it. i would say green bay is a bit of a sleeper to take the NFC this season.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
At 6'0", he's average not small. The guy from Arizona is small.

These are Brock's measureables compared to the rest of the QBs drafted since the combine was a thing


Dude is small in every sense of the word with every measurable they track for a QB.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
At 6'0", he's average not small. The guy from Arizona is small.

These are Brock's measureables compared to the rest of the QBs drafted since the combine was a thing


Dude is small in every sense of the word with every measurable they track for a QB.

He just looks small compared to the rest of the league.

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:

Some of the narratives that people believe in are just silly.

The idea that CMC had any effect whatsoever on Brock is among them.

Somehow, fans on this board think that a whopping 1400 yards rushing is some kind of game-changing thing. Never mind that Mike Anderson and Alfred Morris had more in the OZS. Never mind that the success of a RB has literally nothing to do with a QB's success throwing the football, which we will get to in a minute. Derrick Henry is currently at 1783 yards on 5.8 yards per carry with the Ravens. I don't see anybody crediting him for Lamar Jackson's success. Gee, I wonder why that is.

Here are some of the top RB seasons and the stats of the QBs who played with them:

Eric Dickerson, 1984: 2105 yards rushing.

Jeff Kemp, Rams' starting QB: 2021 yards, 50.4% completion, 7.1 yards per attempt, 13 TDs, 7 INTs.

Adrian Peterson, 2012, 2097 yards rushing.

Christian Ponder, Vikings' starting QB: 2935 yards, 62.1% completion, 6.1 yards per attempt, 18 TDs, 12 INTs.

Jamal Lewis, 2000, 2066 yards rushing.

Ravens' QBs, Kyle Boller, Anthony Wright, Chris Redman: 2255 yards, 52.3% completion, 6.1 yards per attempt, 16 TDs, 19 INTs.

Barry Sanders, 1997: 2053 yards rushing.

Scott Mitchell, Lions' starting QB: 3484 yards, 57.6% completion, 6.8 yards per attempt, 19 TDs, 14 INTs.

Christian McCaffrey himself played on the Panthers. Their QBs always sucked with him.

People keep crediting players who weren't even on the roster when the team made the SB with Jimmy. CMC was not on the 2019 49ers. Brandon Aiyuk was not on the 49ers. Screenbo, who is a horrible WR, was a rookie. Trent Williams was not on the 2019 49ers.

If you're going to credit anybody, you should credit Kyle Shanahan. At least that's logically consistent, even though it's clear that Kyle Shanahan is far from a genius. Crediting various players rather than the system is not in line with how football works. Unless you have some exception such as Randy Moss or Tyreek Hill who just dominates the game in a way where it transcends scheme, the players around the QB make minimal impact.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
yup. feels like a square peg in a round hole situation. i think the ideal shanny system QB, would have the arm talent to back safeties off. you want two deep vs the kyle run game. and we seem to have the weakest arm in the game here. i just don't get it. has shanny ever had a QB who can put it downfield or distort the D by running the ball? we may want to ask what traits we look for in the position, then go find that guy. that's on shanny at the end of the day tho. he made his move for lance and we saw how that went. even after that, you have a very toolsy guy in the bldg in sam and he never got any real action here. we have committed to brock by giving him all the starts. shanny's downfall may be him thinking he can make any guy work in his system, rather than getting someone ideally suited for his system.

You're in your own little delusional world.

"would have the arm talent to back safeties off." That is not how football works. That has never been how football works. Safeties don't "back off" to respect a QB's arm talent.

Brock is currently 2nd in air yards per completion. He was 2nd last year as well.

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

So no actual response to the facts?

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by pd24:
Is Brock better than Jordan Love? I think love is better and has a better arm.

Love is not very good....so far. Showed some glimpses last year but pretty meh this year.

In his last 6 games GB is 4-2 and he has 9 TDs and 0 INTs with a 108 qb rating. In same time frame Brock Purdy has 8 TDs and 5 INTs with a 94 QB rating and SF is 1-5.

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
Some of the narratives that people believe in are just silly.

The idea that CMC had any effect whatsoever on Brock is among them.

Somehow, fans on this board think that a whopping 1400 yards rushing is some kind of game-changing thing. Never mind that Mike Anderson and Alfred Morris had more in the OZS. Never mind that the success of a RB has literally nothing to do with a QB's success throwing the football, which we will get to in a minute. Derrick Henry is currently at 1783 yards on 5.8 yards per carry with the Ravens. I don't see anybody crediting him for Lamar Jackson's success. Gee, I wonder why that is.

Here are some of the top RB seasons and the stats of the QBs who played with them:

Eric Dickerson, 1984: 2105 yards rushing.

Jeff Kemp, Rams' starting QB: 2021 yards, 50.4% completion, 7.1 yards per attempt, 13 TDs, 7 INTs.

Adrian Peterson, 2012, 2097 yards rushing.

Christian Ponder, Vikings' starting QB: 2935 yards, 62.1% completion, 6.1 yards per attempt, 18 TDs, 12 INTs.

Jamal Lewis, 2000, 2066 yards rushing.

Ravens' QBs, Kyle Boller, Anthony Wright, Chris Redman: 2255 yards, 52.3% completion, 6.1 yards per attempt, 16 TDs, 19 INTs.

Barry Sanders, 1997: 2053 yards rushing.

Scott Mitchell, Lions' starting QB: 3484 yards, 57.6% completion, 6.8 yards per attempt, 19 TDs, 14 INTs.

Christian McCaffrey himself played on the Panthers. Their QBs always sucked with him.

People keep crediting players who weren't even on the roster when the team made the SB with Jimmy. CMC was not on the 2019 49ers. Brandon Aiyuk was not on the 49ers. Screenbo, who is a horrible WR, was a rookie. Trent Williams was not on the 2019 49ers.

If you're going to credit anybody, you should credit Kyle Shanahan. At least that's logically consistent, even though it's clear that Kyle Shanahan is far from a genius. Crediting various players rather than the system is not in line with how football works. Unless you have some exception such as Randy Moss or Tyreek Hill who just dominates the game in a way where it transcends scheme, the players around the QB make minimal impact.

Theres so much dumb here.

Half his passing yards came off YAC last yr. Top 5 in the league. Quit acting like having pro-bowlers all around him didn't matter.

CMC had 1,800 yards of offense and 21tds. Why is Brock playing mid this yr if talent around him doesn't matter? Shouldn't he be slinging it and putting up 40Tds with like 5 INTs? And save me the he's hurt b******t.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Purdy is Hella accurate, though. I'd rather have an average arm that is accurate, than a bazooka that is wild.

How about a bazooka that's accurate. I know they're hard to find but they do exist. Brock is accurate out to 20 yards. Like most QBs the accuracy is going to drop after that. His arm strength is an issue on deeper throws. Even when he completes them the recieive nearly always has to slow up to make the catch. Fans want a speedy receiver but if the QB can't lay the ball out in front it nullifies that speed.

Honestly he's not even that accurate. He's got a subpar arm and is small. He has to be elite with processing and anticipation. His mechanics aren't amazing either. He can't play in inclement weather apparently either

look he's a good QB. I think he's very dependent on the system and roster around him. He's a leader and seems like a good person. He's got moxie and Kyle likes him.

He's the QB now and will get paid. I don't think he's ever gonna be some guy that elite yr after yr and be the guy here for the next decade+

totally hope im wrong and he's the next Montana or whatever

there always a chance. You said all this last year as well then jumped on the bandwagon midway through the season and said you were sold on him

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by pd24:
Is Brock better than Jordan Love? I think love is better and has a better arm.

Love is not very good....so far. Showed some glimpses last year but pretty meh this year.

i don't know what you are watching to say love isn't very good. the guy can just flat out spin it. i would say green bay is a bit of a sleeper to take the NFC this season.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by pd24:
Is Brock better than Jordan Love? I think love is better and has a better arm.

Love is not very good....so far. Showed some glimpses last year but pretty meh this year.

i don't know what you are watching to say love isn't very good. the guy can just flat out spin it. i would say green bay is a bit of a sleeper to take the NFC this season.

Nope and Love will be the reason.