QB Brock Purdy Thread

Didn't we used to say Joe Montana had bird legs or chicken legs? Who gives a s**t? Can we win with Purdy and his arm? I would say yes. Where we all should have pause is with the repeated whacks to the elbow.

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Facts...

I literally listed a bunch of statistics. You just don't like them because your entire worldview is destroyed.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
There is a reason why he is Mr. Irrelevent....and some of those reasons are physical attributes.

Absolutely, not sure why this is even a debatable thing?

he's small and doesn't have top end tangible traits. He's had to be good at processing and anticipation because he doesn't have those other traits. Overall I think he's taken a step back with those two traits especially late in the game.

facts are we're gonna have to maintain a really good roster for it to all work. That gets harder if he wants Dak money

Exactly.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
There is a reason why he is Mr. Irrelevent....and some of those reasons are physical attributes.

Absolutely, not sure why this is even a debatable thing?

he's small and doesn't have top end tangible traits. He's had to be good at processing and anticipation because he doesn't have those other traits. Overall I think he's taken a step back with those two traits especially late in the game.

facts are we're gonna have to maintain a really good roster for it to all work. That gets harder if he wants Dak money

This. Purdy is who he is yet people want to point to when he was healthy, when the team was healthy, and we had the most complete roster in the league performing near its peak and seem to want that to be the norm. That wasn't the norm, that was an anomaly. The norm is things are not gonna be perfect. We aren't always gonna have the talent. We aren't always gonna have the smartest guy as our coach. He's gonna have to play in inclement weather. How does he operate under those circumstances?. Turns out he's performing like Mr irrelevant. surprise, surprise………. It's not a knock on him, it's just who he is. Now the question is does that warrant $60 million a year. I don't think so. If people think so let's hear why.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Coverages sure as s**t do. His arm talent is below avg and no stat is gonna cover that up.

No they don't. Not at all. Coverages are dependent on scheme/formations.

His arm talent is elite when he's healthy and you use the term correctly. You think "arm talent" means "arm strength," but that would make the term meaningless. Just say "arm strength" then.

If you can't hit the broad side of a barn, you do not have arm talent.

If you're going to say that arm talent means arm strength, then Brock is the worst in football other than maybe Gardner Minshew. Steve Young was the worst in football when he played as well.

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Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
HOW MANY TIMES ARE YOU GOING TO IGNORE THE FACT THAT HE WAS 2ND IN THE NFL IN AIR YARDS PER COMPLETION LAST YEAR?

What is it going to take for this to sink in?

Your "YAC" (RAC) stats are meaningless. Every QB gets tons of yards from RAC. He was getting more yards through air yards than all but 1 QB last season.

It's also comical coming from somebody who is a 49ERS FAN. Do you have any idea how many of Montana and Young's numbers came from RAC? This is just absurd. I can't believe 49er fans actually go this route.

You know who had more RAC than the 49ers' last year? None other than the Chiefs. And Stat Paddy's numbers were terrible.

Brock is injured this year (saying otherwise is what's dumb), which is why he has struggled. If he hits all of the easy throws he has missed this year, which he never missed last year, this team would be heading to the playoffs and he'd be talked about as an MVP candidate.

Some examples of easy Brock throws that he would have nailed last year:

The out-and-up to Jennings against Arizona that would have been a TD.

Before his first INT against AZ, he sailed an easy throw to Aiyuk.

He threw an easy drag route behind Screenbo vs. Dallas in the first half. Also threw a wide open underneath throw behind Screenbo vs. Seahawks on Thursday night football, but Screenbo made the catch anyway.

Underthrew opening vertical to Screenbo vs. Cowboys that should have been a TD.

He underthrew Pearsall on an open post vs. Rams. Last season, he didn't underthrow a deep ball the entire season. All of his incompletions vertically were overthrows. This year, he has had so many underthrows I can't even keep count.

Underthrew both Kittle and Cowing on what should have been deep TDs vs. Chiefs.

He also missed Pearsall on an easy out route vs. Rams.

Threw short of Jennings on an out or comeback against...can't even remember.

Hung it inside on out throw to Jennings on 3rd and 10 vs. Lions.

Sailed it way over Screenbo's head on open underneath throw vs. Rams.

Sailed it over somebody's head (didn't make out who it was at the time) early on vs. Bucs on a scramble. The player was standing about 2 yards away from him.

Threw behind Aiyuk on slant @ Rams.

He's been among the least accurate QBs in football this year after being a mobile version of Drew Brees last year. But yeah, it just happened randomly, because Trey Lance is awesome.

Saying YAC is meaningless is the dumbest s**t lol. Yeah you're right tossing a 5 yard slant to Deebo or CMC is meaningless who then take it 30 yards means nothing.

you know who had higher AIR/COMP this yr? Anthony Richardson and Jameis Winston. I'm sure you're gonna debate how amazing they are 🤣

there's so much nonsense in this post. Didn't under throw a deep ball all season


he lost his f**king players and had to try and makeup for it. Don't be so dense. He did the SAME s**t in college when he lost his RB and WRs. played hero ball and he became a 7th rd pick FOR A REASON.

who gives a s**t about Lance? Brock doesn't suck, he ain't some elite level QB and he's been showing that all yr.

I would love it if we could sign him to a 10 year deal like Mahomes. 50m a year for 10 years? Even if it were 60m. In 4 years that'll be at a large discount.Look at Mahomes's deal of 45m a year in 2020 was the largest contract in the NFL. Now it's not even top 10.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Saying YAC is meaningless is the dumbest s**t lol. Yeah you're right tossing a 5 yard in route to Deebo or CMC is meaningless lol.

you know who had higher AIR/COMP this yr? Anthony Richardson and Jameis Winston. I'm sure you're gonna debate how amazing they are 🤣

there's so much nonsense in this post. Didn't under throw a deep ball all season

It is meaningless when it comes to this discussion, because Brock was throwing further than every other QB in football. What part of this don't you understand?

Do you want him to ask his receivers to NOT run after the catch to appease you?

Air yards per completion alone don't mean you are playing well, but it's a requirement that you aren't just a complete dink and dunk merchant like Stat Paddy in order for your numbers to mean anything at all. You don't do basic logic, though.

Name a single deep ball he underthrew in 2023.

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
There is a reason why he is Mr. Irrelevent....and some of those reasons are physical attributes.

Absolutely, not sure why this is even a debatable thing?

he's small and doesn't have top end tangible traits. He's had to be good at processing and anticipation because he doesn't have those other traits. Overall I think he's taken a step back with those two traits especially late in the game.

facts are we're gonna have to maintain a really good roster for it to all work. That gets harder if he wants Dak money

This. Purdy is who he is yet people want to point to when he was healthy, when the team was healthy, and we had the most complete roster in the league performing near its peak and seem to want that to be the norm. That wasn't the norm, that was an anomaly. The norm is things are not gonna be perfect. We aren't always gonna have the talent. We aren't always gonna have the smartest guy as our coach. He's gonna have to play in inclement weather. How does he operate under those circumstances?. Turns out he's performing like Mr irrelevant. surprise, surprise………. It's not a knock on him, it's just who he is. Now the question is does that warrant $60 million a year. I don't think so. If people think so let's hear why.

Ttalking about weather.. I was at the green bay playoff game and he has trouble with a wet ball. Same thing in the Ravens game last season

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:

This. Purdy is who he is yet people want to point to when he was healthy, when the team was healthy, and we had the most complete roster in the league performing near its peak and seem to want that to be the norm. That wasn't the norm, that was an anomaly. The norm is things are not gonna be perfect. We aren't always gonna have the talent. We aren't always gonna have the smartest guy as our coach. He's gonna have to play in inclement weather. How does he operate under those circumstances?. Turns out he's performing like Mr irrelevant. surprise, surprise………. It's not a knock on him, it's just who he is. Now the question is does that warrant $60 million a year. I don't think so. If people think so let's hear why.

We've got to see him in a bad situation. He wasn't great, but he also wasn't bad. Its been an average year. Playing like Mr irrelevant would be like Skylar Thompson or Curtis Painter level play. You guys exaggerate the bad and downplay the good

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
His arm is not below average.

What current NFL starting QB has a weaker arm? I'm not talking about being accurate.

Just because he doesn't have a cannon like some guys doesn't make him weak armed. Now this year since the AZ game, I agree his arm looks off and not as much zip on the ball. Prior to that his arm was fine imo

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
This. Purdy is who he is yet people want to point to when he was healthy, when the team was healthy, and we had the most complete roster in the league performing near its peak and seem to want that to be the norm. That wasn't the norm, that was an anomaly. The norm is things are not gonna be perfect. We aren't always gonna have the talent. We aren't always gonna have the smartest guy as our coach. He's gonna have to play in inclement weather. How does he operate under those circumstances?. Turns out he's performing like Mr irrelevant. surprise, surprise………. It's not a knock on him, it's just who he is. Now the question is does that warrant $60 million a year. I don't think so. If people think so let's hear why.

We've got to see him in a bad situation. He wasn't great, but he also wasn't bad. Its been an average year. Playing like Mr irrelevant would be like Skylar Thompson or Curtis Painter level play. You guys exaggerate the bad and downplay the good

I think this is spot on.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

he lost his f**king players and had to try and makeup for it. Don't be so dense. He did the SAME s**t in college when he lost his RB and WRs. played hero ball and he became a 7th rd pick FOR A REASON.

who gives a s**t about Lance? Brock doesn't suck, he ain't some elite level QB and he's been showing that all yr.

He has to try to make up for it by MISSING WIDE OPEN THROWS?

You're not even listening. You have all of these bogus narratives in your head that you want to further and don't do the most rudimentary logic when trying to argue.

Your entire anti-Brock nonsense comes from your bizarre lust for Trey Lance. The fact Lance has all these fanboys only makes sense when you think about it in terms of certain agendas that have nothing to do with the game, but we can't get into that on here.

It's obvious, though. Who cares about some guy who played fullback at a division 1-AA school for a season?

Originally posted by _Goldblooded_:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
This. Purdy is who he is yet people want to point to when he was healthy, when the team was healthy, and we had the most complete roster in the league performing near its peak and seem to want that to be the norm. That wasn't the norm, that was an anomaly. The norm is things are not gonna be perfect. We aren't always gonna have the talent. We aren't always gonna have the smartest guy as our coach. He's gonna have to play in inclement weather. How does he operate under those circumstances?. Turns out he's performing like Mr irrelevant. surprise, surprise………. It's not a knock on him, it's just who he is. Now the question is does that warrant $60 million a year. I don't think so. If people think so let's hear why.

We've got to see him in a bad situation. He wasn't great, but he also wasn't bad. Its been an average year. Playing like Mr irrelevant would be like Skylar Thompson or Curtis Painter level play. You guys exaggerate the bad and downplay the good

I think this is spot on.

If this is what he looks like when the team collapses around him, I'll take it!

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

he lost his f**king players and had to try and makeup for it. Don't be so dense. He did the SAME s**t in college when he lost his RB and WRs. played hero ball and he became a 7th rd pick FOR A REASON.

who gives a s**t about Lance? Brock doesn't suck, he ain't some elite level QB and he's been showing that all yr.

He has to try to make up for it by MISSING WIDE OPEN THROWS?

You're not even listening. You have all of these bogus narratives in your head that you want to further and don't do the most rudimentary logic when trying to argue.

Your entire anti-Brock nonsense comes from your bizarre lust for Trey Lance. The fact Lance has all these fanboys only makes sense when you think about it in terms of certain agendas that have nothing to do with the game, but we can't get into that on here.

It's obvious, though. Who cares about some guy who played fullback at a division 1-AA school for a season?

Lance would be #3 if Dak wasn't on IR. Only way he can make #2 backup is by injury.