QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
At 6'0", he's average not small. The guy from Arizona is small.

These are Brock's measureables compared to the rest of the QBs drafted since the combine was a thing


Dude is small in every sense of the word with every measurable they track for a QB.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
At 6'0", he's average not small. The guy from Arizona is small.

These are Brock's measureables compared to the rest of the QBs drafted since the combine was a thing


Dude is small in every sense of the word with every measurable they track for a QB.

He just looks small compared to the rest of the league.

Dude we're not talking about normal joe blow guys walking down the road. He's small as s**t compared to his peers. My god I have bigger arms and hands than him and I'm not a NFL freak athlete by any means lol.

Ok, your right - qb wise he is short, just not as a normal Joe.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
We've got to see him in a bad situation. He wasn't great, but he also wasn't bad. Its been an average year. Playing like Mr irrelevant would be like Skylar Thompson or Curtis Painter level play. You guys exaggerate the bad and downplay the good

this is hardly a bad situation. 2004 was a bad situation. jim hostler in 07 was a bad situation. we have kyle shanahan on the play sheet. last night brock's throwing to pearsall, kittle, jennings and handing to deebo. those are not bad players. carolina with that owner down there, now that is a bad situation. brock has shown he's a functional QB who can play in this league he's way beyond the non functional guys.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
We've got to see him in a bad situation. He wasn't great, but he also wasn't bad. Its been an average year. Playing like Mr irrelevant would be like Skylar Thompson or Curtis Painter level play. You guys exaggerate the bad and downplay the good

Personally I just don't want the 49ers to screw this up like the jags, dolphins, giants, and saints did by overpaying just because "that's the market". That just doesn't make any sense to me. Why do we have to overpay for an average QB? Why do we have to make the same mistake that most teams are making year in year out? We supposedly have a genius coach who can coach up any QB. Bring in someone who is close to Purdy and can be had for half of what Purdy wants. Bring in Zach Wilson or Daniel jones. Coach them up. Then we can surround that guy with an outstanding cast cause we'll have the money to do it.

We were able to build this team because of how much we were paying Purdy. So logic should tell you if you pay him what he's gonna command, the team around him isn't gonna be nearly as good. And if he doesn't have the weapons around him, well, look at this year. This is closer to what we will have from here on out.

Go, Niners, go!

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
It is meaningless when it comes to this discussion, because Brock was throwing further than every other QB in football. What part of this don't you understand?

Do you want him to ask his receivers to NOT run after the catch to appease you?

Air yards per completion alone don't mean you are playing well, but it's a requirement that you aren't just a complete dink and dunk merchant like Stat Paddy in order for your numbers to mean anything at all. You don't do basic logic, though.

Name a single deep ball he underthrew in 2023.

The discussion that players around him don't matter?? Get the f**k out of here.

When you realize teams play different QBs differently maybe we can have a real discussion. You're out of your god damn mind if you think defenses are lineup the same vs Mahomes when they see Brock.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
The discussion that players around him don't matter?? Get the f**k out of here.

When you realize teams play different QBs differently maybe we can have a real discussion. You're out of your god damn mind if you think defenses are lineup the same vs Mahomes when they see Brock.

You're a novice fan. It's as simple as that.

You have no clue what you're talking about when it comes to how defenses line up.

You claim the Queefs are constantly facing "2 high" to excuse Stat Paddy's yards per completion being lower than any starting QB in 49ers' franchise history.

Complete nonsense. If you consider it "2 high" when a safety lines up 8 yards from the line of scrimmage most of the time, then Brock is also constantly facing "2 high."

The safeties don't back off for Stat Paddy any more than they do for any other QB.

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
Bring in someone who is close to Purdy and can be had for half of what Purdy wants. Bring in Zach Wilson or Daniel jones. Coach them up. Then we can surround that guy with an outstanding cast cause we'll have the money to do it.

It is impossible to contend for Super Bowls doing that. There is literally no point to doing that. Supporting casts don't win Super Bowls. Schemes and quarterbacks do.

6'1" 220 lbs. is not really that small. If you want to call it almost 6' 3/4" (pretty close to that). It's not ridiculous to call that 6'1". The 212 lbs. is probably slimmed down for the combine to run. Where he famously had a real good 10 yard split. He seems pretty good change of direction too. He's not straight line fast. But short area quickness. Which is what you need to buy time to throw and scramble 8, 10, 12 yards for a 1st down. He's listed at 220 lbs. which isn't that small. He's stocky and strong with powerful legs. Probably where he gets his short area quickness from.

We have been over this a million times. He's not really that small. He's literally bigger than Drew Brees, Kyler Murray and Russell Wilson. He's not huge like Trevor Lawrence at 6'6" or Josh Allen at 6'5" 240 lbs. But not every player in NFL history is. Hardly too small to play. But he's not prototype size. Which is one reason he would fall in the draft.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
6'1" 220 lbs. is not really that small. If you want to call it almost 6' 3/4" (pretty close to that). It's not ridiculous to call that 6'1". The 212 lbs. is probably slimmed down for the combine to run. Where he famously had a real good 10 yard split. He seems pretty good change of direction too. He's not straight line fast. But short area quickness. Which is what you need to buy time to throw and scramble 8, 10, 12 yards for a 1st down. He's listed at 220 lbs. which isn't that small. He's stocky and strong with powerful legs. Probably where he gets his short area quickness from.

We have been over this a million times. He's not really that small. He's literally bigger than Drew Brees, Kyler Murray and Russell Wilson. He's not huge like Trevor Lawrence at 6'6" or Josh Allen at 6'5" 240 lbs. But not every player in NFL history is. Hardly too small to play. But he's not prototype size. Which is one reason he would fall in the draft.

I mean he's no Sam darnold

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
You're a novice fan. It's as simple as that.

You have no clue what you're talking about when it comes to how defenses line up.

You claim the Queefs are constantly facing "2 high" to excuse Stat Paddy's yards per completion being lower than any starting QB in 49ers' franchise history.

Complete nonsense. If you consider it "2 high" when a safety lines up 8 yards from the line of scrimmage most of the time, then Brock is also constantly facing "2 high."

The safeties don't back off for Stat Paddy any more than they do for any other QB.

your nicknames are so bad . this is a pick with an 8 man front, single high. we run this stuff and teams figure it out. single high and he's still crashing the middle in breaking stuff.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
6'1" 220 lbs. is not really that small. If you want to call it almost 6' 3/4" (pretty close to that). It's not ridiculous to call that 6'1". The 212 lbs. is probably slimmed down for the combine to run. Where he famously had a real good 10 yard split. He seems pretty good change of direction too. He's not straight line fast. But short area quickness. Which is what you need to buy time to throw and scramble 8, 10, 12 yards for a 1st down. He's listed at 220 lbs. which isn't that small. He's stocky and strong with powerful legs. Probably where he gets his short area quickness from.

We have been over this a million times. He's not really that small. He's literally bigger than Drew Brees, Kyler Murray and Russell Wilson. He's not huge like Trevor Lawrence at 6'6" or Josh Allen at 6'5" 240 lbs. But not every player in NFL history is. Hardly too small to play. But he's not prototype size. Which is one reason he would fall in the draft.

I mean he's no Sam darnold

Darnold is bigger and more prototype. Which is one reason he was the #3 overall pick. In addition to being really good in College and having a strong arm.

6'3 3/8" 221 lbs. at the combine. You could call it 6'3 1/2" rounded if you want. That's pretty prototype on both height and weight for an NFL QB.

Brock had pro-bowl calibur players at every skill position, and still couldn't get it done. He's an mid-tier starting level NFL QB, but not worth 50+ mil.

Over-paying him means we're not going to be able to afford talent at other positions.

People get defensive about calling Purdy average, but that just means he can put up good numbers when he has a good supporting cast. What separates mid tier from the elite, is the elite will get the job done with just about anyone. Also, Purdy has had so many game killing interceptions this year, and has been awful in the red zone.20/12 doesn't cut it these days.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

We've got to see him in a bad situation. He wasn't great, but he also wasn't bad. Its been an average year. Playing like Mr irrelevant would be like Skylar Thompson or Curtis Painter level play. You guys exaggerate the bad and downplay the good

this is hardly a bad situation. 2004 was a bad situation. jim hostler in 07 was a bad situation. we have kyle shanahan on the play sheet. last night brock's throwing to pearsall, kittle, jennings and handing to deebo. those are not bad players. carolina with that owner down there, now that is a bad situation. brock has shown he's a functional QB who can play in this league he's way beyond the non functional guys.

This was a bad situation from tc. Team just wasn't up the season. Pearsall just got the green light to be fed this weekend. JJ is a good player, but he's not close to a #1. We have one great weapon. Add a OL that can't do anything without the scheme behind them and it's not good. Having Kyle is bad when he's not running the ball, this has been covered by all former QBs that watch his offense on film

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
You're a novice fan. It's as simple as that.

You have no clue what you're talking about when it comes to how defenses line up.

You claim the Queefs are constantly facing "2 high" to excuse Stat Paddy's yards per completion being lower than any starting QB in 49ers' franchise history.

Complete nonsense. If you consider it "2 high" when a safety lines up 8 yards from the line of scrimmage most of the time, then Brock is also constantly facing "2 high."

The safeties don't back off for Stat Paddy any more than they do for any other QB.

So you don't know what cover 2 is. Gotcha

Originally posted by IrishCrnjo:

Brock had pro-bowl calibur players at every skill position, and still couldn't get it done. He's an mid-tier starting level NFL QB, but not worth 50+ mil.

Over-paying him means we're not going to be able to afford talent at other positions.

People get defensive about calling Purdy average, but that just means he can put up good numbers when he has a good supporting cast. What separates mid tier from the elite, is the elite will get the job done with just about anyone.

If Kittle can't lift his arm, Aiyuk and Deebo spend more time blanketed than open, and CmC has a subpar game in the sb, then what does great players on paper matter? They weren't great when it mattered, and still probably came down to a muffed punt