QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
Do you guys think Brock deep down has accepted that he is just an average NFL QB? Or do you think he has some denial in believing he is or can be elite?

deep down he's probably ticked off he was taken where he was and on the contract he is on. he thinks he is the best that's how most guys feel. you need that kind of confidence to play at this level. now will he listen if 200m is on the table, i would think so right? not everyday you have $200m on the table with a certain amount of that gtd.

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
Do you guys think Brock deep down has accepted that he is just an average NFL QB? Or do you think he has some denial in believing he is or can be elite?

His career stats suggest that he is above average.

Originally posted by _Goldblooded_:

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
Do you guys think Brock deep down has accepted that he is just an average NFL QB? Or do you think he has some denial in believing he is or can be elite?

His career stats suggest that he is above average.

I'm sure Brock knows his strengths and weaknesses but every QB has to believe in their ability to win. If they don't then they won't last.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Hey i'm just saying i don't think it make sense to get other teams involved unless it comes down to a serious trade. I don't remember Lamar being dangled out there and having a buyer. All so they can say no thanks we will keep him for less. He did become the highest paid QB at the time.

The way you are suggesting of fishing Brock out for anyone to offer whatever they are willing to shell out isn't ethical. You don't do that to anyone unless you really don't care about that player. Plus, not me, you or anyone would take the bait of giving some a serious offer if i'm being used as a pawn for someone elses negotiation tactics.

You bring up Dak money, you think Dak had a market for that much league wide? no way

I don't see why money is an issue, unless you think he's not good. Then yeah, you don't pay avg or less QBs

Lamar was dangled out all off season before the contract was made.

It's no different than what SF did with BA. He wanted that elite level WR money. SF said okay you want it go see if anyone else is willing to give it to you AND give us proper compensation. Turns out both of those things were true BUT we ended up making a deal. Neither side wanted to go elsewhere in the end.

It's a business man. Just because you're the next man up. Doesn't mean you should be the highest paid player…unless the market says so…meet in the middle & understand what your worth is to us and everyone else in the league.

LV was reportedly waiting for the Dak's contract stuff to go sideways. He would have absolutely gotten paid elsewhere. He's got multiple seasons of high end stats. He's already been paid a massive contract and didn't turtle up. Brock has one good full season of football. He has no tangible elite traits. He was the last pick in the draft for a reason. That doesn't just go away when teams are gonna line up and pay you.

Money is always an issue when building a roster. Why do you feel like Brock has to be the highest paid player in the NFL? I mean we might as well give Huff the largest contract ever for S? He was an all-pro at one point, right?

look if you feel Brock is an elite QB that doesn't need elite talent around him to make this team successful, pay him whatever he wants. IF you think he's not that type of QB then pay him properly.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Couldn't agree more with Jon. Seems like if he got back into coaching he'd be okay with signing Brock

We are signing Brock tho? But Brock has to sign too.

No one is saying don't pay Brock. They shouldn't make Brock the highest player in football. That's all I'm saying. Have some outs, have the GTD cash be realistic. That's all. We will se what it ends up being

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Lamar was dangled out all off season before the contract was made.

It's no different than what SF did with BA. He wanted that elite level WR money. SF said okay you want it go see if anyone else is willing to give it to you AND give us proper compensation. Turns out both of those things were true BUT we ended up making a deal. Neither side wanted to go elsewhere in the end.

It's a business man. You can't ask for the moon and I can say no. let's meet in the middle understand what your worth is to us and everyone else in the league.

LV was reportedly waiting for the Dak's contract stuff to go sideways. He would have absolutely gotten paid elsewhere. He's got multiple seasons of high end stats. He's already been paid a massive contract and didn't turtle up. Brock has one good full season of football. He has no tangible elite traits. He was the last pick in the draft for a reason. That doesn't just go away when teams are gonna line up and pay you.

Money is always an issue when building a roster. Why do you feel like Brock has to be the highest paid player in the NFL? I mean we might as well give Huff the largest contract ever for S? He was an all-pro at one point, right?

look if you feel Brock is an elite QB that doesn't need elite talent around him to make this team successful, pay him whatever he wants. IF you think he's not that type of QB then pay him properly.

hoping there is a quick meeting of the minds. brock has got to know he's coming off a down year. so he can't ask for the moon. he'll get a big deal and we'll get reasonable cap hits then and an early out. that would be both sides winning.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Lamar was dangled out all off season before the contract was made.

It's no different than what SF did with BA. He wanted that elite level WR money. SF said okay you want it go see if anyone else is willing to give it to you AND give us proper compensation. Turns out both of those things were true BUT we ended up making a deal. Neither side wanted to go elsewhere in the end.

It's a business man. You can't ask for the moon and I can say no. let's meet in the middle understand what your worth is to us and everyone else in the league.

LV was reportedly waiting for the Dak's contract stuff to go sideways. He would have absolutely gotten paid elsewhere. He's got multiple seasons of high end stats. He's already been paid a massive contract and didn't turtle up. Brock has one good full season of football. He has no tangible elite traits. He was the last pick in the draft for a reason. That doesn't just go away when teams are gonna line up and pay you.

Money is always an issue when building a roster. Why do you feel like Brock has to be the highest paid player in the NFL? I mean we might as well give Huff the largest contract ever for S? He was an all-pro at one point, right?

look if you feel Brock is an elite QB that doesn't need elite talent around him to make this team successful, pay him whatever he wants. IF you think he's not that type of QB then pay him properly.

hoping there is a quick meeting of the minds. brock has got to know he's coming off a down year. so he can't ask for the moon. he'll get a big deal and we'll get reasonable cap hits then and an early out. that would be both sides winning.

If they had a SB win with him at QB then it would be different. Even if he had been a top pick and was already making a decent salary it might be tougher negotiations. When you've been playing for less than one million per year $25-$30 million is going to look huge.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
hoping there is a quick meeting of the minds. brock has got to know he's coming off a down year. so he can't ask for the moon. he'll get a big deal and we'll get reasonable cap hits then and an early out. that would be both sides winning.

Yeah I know he will get more than Baker, but a deal like that makes sense. Niners get him at a moderate price. Brock gets life changing cash that he never thought he was getting when he was the last pick in the draft…and it's a short deal.

So he can absolutely go back to the FO sooner than later, if he gets back to that 2023 Brock mode and absolutely make elite QB cash.

I just don't see how you can pay him Dak money coming off this type of season.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yeah I know he will get more than Baker, but a deal like that makes sense. Niners get him at a moderate price. Brock gets life changing cash that he never thought he was getting when he was the last pick in the draft…and it's a short deal.

So he can absolutely go back to the FO sooner than later, if he gets back to that 2023 Brock mode and absolutely make elite QB cash.

I just don't see how you can pay him Dak money coming off this type of season.

my thoughts was a 5 year $200m style deal with an out after 2 seasons with some doable dead cap hit

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Hey i'm just saying i don't think it make sense to get other teams involved unless it comes down to a serious trade. I don't remember Lamar being dangled out there and having a buyer. All so they can say no thanks we will keep him for less. He did become the highest paid QB at the time.

The way you are suggesting of fishing Brock out for anyone to offer whatever they are willing to shell out isn't ethical. You don't do that to anyone unless you really don't care about that player. Plus, not me, you or anyone would take the bait of giving some a serious offer if i'm being used as a pawn for someone elses negotiation tactics.

You bring up Dak money, you think Dak had a market for that much league wide? no way

I don't see why money is an issue, unless you think he's not good. Then yeah, you don't pay avg or less QBs

Lamar was dangled out all off season before the contract was made.

It's no different than what SF did with BA. He wanted that elite level WR money. SF said okay you want it go see if anyone else is willing to give it to you AND give us proper compensation. Turns out both of those things were true BUT we ended up making a deal. Neither side wanted to go elsewhere in the end.

It's a business man. You can't ask for the moon and I can say no. let's meet in the middle understand what your worth is to us and everyone else in the league.

LV was reportedly waiting for the Dak's contract stuff to go sideways. He would have absolutely gotten paid elsewhere. He's got multiple seasons of high end stats. He's already been paid a massive contract and didn't turtle up. Brock has one good full season of football. He has no tangible elite traits. He was the last pick in the draft for a reason. That doesn't just go away when teams are gonna line up and pay you.

Money is always an issue when building a roster. Why do you feel like Brock has to be the highest paid player in the NFL? I mean we might as well give Huff the largest contract ever for S? He was an all-pro at one point, right?

look if you feel Brock is an elite QB that doesn't need elite talent around him to make this team successful, pay him whatever he wants. IF you think he's not that type of QB then pay him properly.

Which outside team offered Lamar money while he's still under contract?

BA wanted a trade, that was the only way he found out what others could afford

I never heard of LV having already 60m earmarked for Dak ?

I know it's a business but no one has done what you are suggesting. You can't get other teams involved (hey what would you pay him) unless there is a serious trade involved. That's all that i'm getting at. All the what would you pay him stuff is irrelevant and nothing to do with your suggested tactic on how to pay someone.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yeah I know he will get more than Baker, but a deal like that makes sense. Niners get him at a moderate price. Brock gets life changing cash that he never thought he was getting when he was the last pick in the draft…and it's a short deal.

So he can absolutely go back to the FO sooner than later, if he gets back to that 2023 Brock mode and absolutely make elite QB cash.

I just don't see how you can pay him Dak money coming off this type of season.

Baker is going to get way more than Baker after this season. Not a chance he comes back at $30 million per after the season he just had.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
If they had a SB win with him at QB then it would be different. Even if he had been a top pick and was already making a decent salary it might be tougher negotiations. When you've been playing for less than one million per year $25-$30 million is going to look huge.

Like I said that baker deal is still ridiculous money. 3 yrs $100 and $50MGTD compared to the $2.6M he's made overall so far.

Give him a 3 yr $150M with like $80 GTD extension. It's essentially a 4 yr deal because he's still got one yr left on his rookie deal (space out the cap hits). I mean they can fluff it up all they want with some unrealistic bloated cap hit with zero GTD cash the last hr of a 4 or 5 yr deal. Still the same s**t end of the day.

Originally posted by _Goldblooded_:

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
Do you guys think Brock deep down has accepted that he is just an average NFL QB? Or do you think he has some denial in believing he is or can be elite?

His career stats suggest that he is above average.

Some of Jimmy G were too. Not always safe to be a stat hound.

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
Do you guys think Brock deep down has accepted that he is just an average NFL QB? Or do you think he has some denial in believing he is or can be elite?

Why would he accept being something he isnt? Brock is a top 10 QB. That isnt average.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Baker is going to get way more than Baker after this season. Not a chance he comes back at $30 million per after the season he just had.

You think he's gonna hold out one yr after signing his deal? It's $35M than $45m after that. He will ask for a new deal in 2026. Same as if Brock got that type of deal.