Originally posted by elguapo:
You are completely wrong on two points, which does not support your opinion whatsoever. You said that Kyle didn't all of a sudden forget how to call plays or no one is ever open? You do realize that Kyle's play calling was a lot worse this year than last year correct? Very very questionable (less play action, screens and so on). You also do realize and this is proven that our receivers got way less separation than they did in the past.
Another point you are completely wrong on, you said that our center did the same s**t last year. That is incorrect. He was bad last year. He was way worse this year. He's 35th rated out of all centers and he single-handedly cost us multiple games this year which he did not do last year. Not even close. I understand those two points support your argument that Brock isn't as good as everyone thinks and you've always tried to push this and that's fine. But you are wrong.
Brock does has his limitations but so does every single quarterback. Also saying that Brock should get paid more than Mayfield for "whatever reason" is comical. Here's a reason, because Brock is better, Brock's worst year has never even come close to Mayfield's. I'm glad Mayfield got better this year and he plays a little bit like Brock, but Brock extends plays and is a great runner. Last year in the playoffs, Brock was so damn clutch against the Lions and the Packers, so I will give him the benefit of the doubt when it comes to his regression this year. I am also giving the benefit of the doubt to quarterbacks like Stroud
Brock was top 15 in play-action attempts and the difference in him being top 10 and 14th is like 15 attempts. Sure they could have run it more. Still wasn't like they didn't at all.
I'm sorry so our $250M QB can only be good if he gets to throw a f**k ton of screens to guys like CMC and Deebo? If that's the case then he's not some amazing QB. Acting like he's not allowed to throw a check down is telling me you don't watch the film.
Brendel stinks, he's currently the 17th ranked center on PFF. He was just as bad last yr (16th overall).
Why does all our receivers have to lead in the in separation for him to be good? It's the NFL it's all about making tight window throws with anticipation for guys like Brock. He simply wasn't doing that at the level he was doing last yr. Period. We all know the roster was not close to it was last yr, it doesn't help Brock's case that he is more reliant on the players around him then some other highly paid QBs.
Brock's passer rating in the 2nd half of games that they were tied or trailing he was 20th in the league. Thats not good. Thats not clutch.
look man I don't hate Brock, I'm all for him getting extended and being the guy. He isn't that elite level QB that's gonna take over games and help lesser rosters be good. He ain't that and his pay check should reflect that. They HAVE to have a damn good roster around him to make it work and that cost money.
IMO Brock isn't better than baker. mayfield has been through like 8 HCs and over 8 OCs in his 8 yrs in the league. Brock was on one of the best rosters that the league has season in 5 yrs last yr, with a top 5 HC/OC. You're comparing apples to oranges because you're a fan.