QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
we nearly made the SB in 2021. i think this tweet is coming up due to the stats being strikingly similar or very close to one another.

2021 defense >>>> 2024 defense. Wasn't because of Jimmy.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
he's not top 10 in the eye test. just my opinion. lot of these metrics are team metrics. if you don't believe me look at darnold now, and then look at darnold when he was on different teams.

We say this based off of some ill-timed interceptions the past few games. The 1st 2 of which 1 he was hit as he threw. Another Jennings held twice which made it appear worse than it was. No excuses this past game though.

The 1st half last game we ran the ball, the oline protected Brock and he played QB as good as anyone in the league. 2nd half we quit running. Quit blocking and the results were what they were.

i say it cuz all his balls are rainbows. he's just floating everything. he's not driving the ball to the flat or outside the numbers. he's not ripping the ball up the seam. right now he plays quick mentally and the ball travels slowly. so if i'm shanny and my QB is soft tossing i have a problem. i can't ask my QB to hit those deep outs, i have to bend everything inward so it's less time in air and more brock friendly. yet that makes us kinda predictable. for over a year now i see teams sitting on those in breaking routes. that's gonna be an area with a lot of traffic until we make em pay in other areas of the field.

Originally posted by krizay:
We say this based off of some ill-timed interceptions the past few games. The 1st 2 of which 1 he was hit as he threw. Another Jennings held twice which made it appear worse than it was. No excuses this past game though.

The 1st half last game we ran the ball, the oline protected Brock and he played QB as good as anyone in the league. 2nd half we quit running. Quit blocking and the results were what they were.

Patrick, Josh, Lamar and Joe really are the only 4 guys that can carry teams on their backs with no help. Everyone else needs support. Brock is right in the mix with everyone else. As long as the team can get a good value deal with him it's all good.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i say it cuz all his balls are rainbows. he's just floating everything. he's not driving the ball to the flat or outside the numbers. he's not ripping the ball up the seam. right now he plays quick mentally and the ball travels slowly. so if i'm shanny and my QB is soft tossing i have a problem. i can't ask my QB to hit those deep outs, i have to bend everything inward so it's less time in air and more brock friendly. yet that makes us kinda predictable. for over a year now i see teams sitting on those in breaking routes. that's gonna be an area with a lot of traffic until we make em pay in other areas of the field.

Never saw this post one time in 2021 or pre Miami 2022.

Brock hit plenty of throws to Aiyuk outside the numbers in 2023. He's clearly able to do it.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by elguapo:
Also, on the subject of our C Brendel, he has been ranked 35th, it's been stated by Crocker, Chapman and many other sources. (Not PFF but another reputable metrics site just blanked out).

Either way we ALL know (except 1 poster who wants to make our qb look worse by denying Brendel alone has cost us games, points, drives and made Purdy run for his life). It's easy for any knowledgeable football fan to see how he is easily the worse C in the NFL. Definitely not even CLOSE to 17th

Ranked 35 on what? You gotta back that up with something man.

Not one single poster is saying Brendel is good. Not one. He was BAD last year. So blaming him for Brock's bad play this yr is an excuse.

guess what there is a f**k ton of bad starting centers in the league. Go look for yourself. You probably can't even name 10 starting centers. It's bad overall.

I'm all for getting better there. Always have been, sure it will help the offense…Trying to pretending it was everyone else and Brock played no part in his own poor play is crap and something a bias fan does. Let's be better.

Just because I don't remember it doesn't mean it's not reality, why don't you listen to some 49ers podcast episodes that's all they can talk about he's ranked 35th. They even said he's worse than three back ups so that's reality whether you wanna accept it or not it's up to you. And blaming a horrendous center who often times turns around and watches the defender abuse Purdy is not an excuse. Instead of admitting it, you say well there's tons of other bad centers in the league. Wow. Talk about issues.It's a reality. I think you're not in touch with cause and effect.

nobody's trying to pretend it was everyone else's fault and Brock had no part in this. You have some serious problems with your posts. You cannot admit anything, dude you're wrong. Great players that are performing horribly or that are injured certainly affect other players performances (look at Stroud). Stop speaking in hyperbole. That's all you do, you can't admit anything and it's so disheartening. That's why so many people rip on you. You have not learned your lesson at all. Just admit that it's a big factor. Shanahan addressed this in his last interview recently. Also what you keep deflecting is the QUALITY of players injured on the 49ers are much higher than any other team in the league this year. Accept it, we set a record for most games missed by all pros and pro bowl players in the last 30 years hahaha.

Dude seriously your narrative is just reaching, biased and defensive (like always) but you need to address the issue which is you and your posts. Sorry to call you out again but that's all you do and you don't change. Talk about being better? You gotta start taking accountability and admitting you're wrong. That's the first step.

serious question NY, just for your mental health and well-being, have you ever considered therapy or have you seen a therapist? Your posts really bring out some issues and it can affect other parts of one's life in a negative way. I think it would help you so much.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by krizay:
We say this based off of some ill-timed interceptions the past few games. The 1st 2 of which 1 he was hit as he threw. Another Jennings held twice which made it appear worse than it was. No excuses this past game though.

The 1st half last game we ran the ball, the oline protected Brock and he played QB as good as anyone in the league. 2nd half we quit running. Quit blocking and the results were what they were.

Patrick, Josh, Lamar and Joe really are the only 4 guys that can carry teams on their backs with no help. Everyone else needs support. Brock is right in the mix with everyone else. As long as the team can get a good value deal with him it's all good.

I can agree with this. I too hope he doesn't get a next man up kind of deal. Those deals are just idiotic. I just don't think we need to downplay Brock just to say that. He is in my opinion in that next group of QBs. That's not to say he should get next man up money because none of them should. HOWEVER...

Originally posted by krizay:
We say this based off of some ill-timed interceptions the past few games. The 1st 2 of which 1 he was hit as he threw. Another Jennings held twice which made it appear worse than it was. No excuses this past game though.

The 1st half last game we ran the ball, the oline protected Brock and he played QB as good as anyone in the league. 2nd half we quit running. Quit blocking and the results were what they were.

Purdy is 20th in QB rating in the 2nd half when tied or trailing.

If there's any sort of inclement weather we're f**ked…I agree the team around him isn't playing well and that affects everything from play calling to the QB. One of the points of paying a QB stupid money is the thought that he can elevate the guys around him. I want to see him take s**t over late and win some games.

I'm all for paying him, folks gotta realize he might just need more around him than some of these other high end QBs.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Patrick, Josh, Lamar and Joe really are the only 4 guys that can carry teams on their backs with no help. Everyone else needs support. Brock is right in the mix with everyone else. As long as the team can get a good value deal with him it's all good.

You can add a 5th in Herbert.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:
You can add a 5th in Herbert.

Nah.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:
You can add a 5th in Herbert.

This season doesn't suggest that. Not all his fault since he's stuck with a tomato can as OC but that offense is middling at best. Chargers defense is carrying them.

He hast been the same as the other 4 since 2021.

Originally posted by krizay:
Before 2021 all people wanted was a top 10 QB. Of course there was always different measures to what exactly a top 10 QB is. There were sooooo many letters being thrown around.

I wont quote the whole thing so stuff doesn't get pushed down so much but nice post. I like just seeing the "data" out there in some of these evaluations instead of subjectiveness.

Originally posted by elguapo:
Just because I don't remember it doesn't mean it's not reality, why don't you listen to some 49ers podcast episodes that's all they can talk about he's ranked 35th. They even said he's worse than three back ups so that's reality whether you wanna accept it or not it's up to you. And blaming a horrendous center who often times turns around and watches the defender abuse Purdy is not an excuse. Instead of admitting it, you say well there's tons of other bad centers in the league. Wow. Talk about issues.It's a reality. I think you're not in touch with cause and effect.

nobody's trying to pretend it was everyone else's fault and Brock had no part in this. You have some serious problems with your posts. You cannot admit anything, dude you're wrong. Great players that are performing horribly or that are injured certainly affect other players performances (look at Stroud). Stop speaking in hyperbole. That's all you do, you can't admit anything and it's so disheartening. That's why so many people rip on you. You have not learned your lesson at all. Just admit that it's a big factor. Shanahan addressed this in his last interview recently. Also what you keep deflecting is the QUALITY of players injured on the 49ers are much higher than any other team in the league this year. Accept it, we set a record for most games missed by all pros and pro bowl players in the last 30 years hahaha.

Dude seriously your narrative is just reaching, biased and defensive (like always) but you need to address the issue which is you and your posts. Sorry to call you out again but that's all you do and you don't change. Talk about being better? You gotta start taking accountability and admitting you're wrong. That's the first step.

serious question NY, just for your mental health and well-being, have you ever considered therapy or have you seen a therapist? Your posts really bring out some issues and it can affect other parts of one's life in a negative way. I think it would help you so much.

lol what is this bold here. i like your stuff guap, and i can say also that i was wrong here on brock. this can be one of the three or four times in 20 year WZ history, where someone admitted being wrong. he's just not throwing the ball well, and that's a big part of playing the QB position. it just is. NY from the jump was telling me about brock's arm and i was saying no his arm is fine he can make all the throws, well i see from this season that he had that one correct. any fans out there watching these passes, it is frustrating i'll tell you everything is a lobbed pass. heck dobbs came in for a few throws, and i was like ok, now the ball is coming out with more authority. this is dobbs for crying out loud, he's not anybody crazy.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i say it cuz all his balls are rainbows. he's just floating everything. he's not driving the ball to the flat or outside the numbers. he's not ripping the ball up the seam. right now he plays quick mentally and the ball travels slowly. so if i'm shanny and my QB is soft tossing i have a problem. i can't ask my QB to hit those deep outs, i have to bend everything inward so it's less time in air and more brock friendly. yet that makes us kinda predictable. for over a year now i see teams sitting on those in breaking routes. that's gonna be an area with a lot of traffic until we make em pay in other areas of the field.

Or maybe because his only outside the numbers guy was never really himself the few games he played. Jennings, Deebo and Kittle are all over the middle guys. That's pretty much all he had to throw to all year. Hopefully Pearsall will help BA going forward and we should be able to get back to using the whole field. So to me it's a personnel thing and not a QB thing.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Nah.

I'll take him right there with those other 4. He's got a good run game but after a rookie in LM, he's got Stone Smart or some s**t.....