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QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by elguapo:
Just because I don't remember it doesn't mean it's not reality, why don't you listen to some 49ers podcast episodes that's all they can talk about he's ranked 35th. They even said he's worse than three back ups so that's reality whether you wanna accept it or not it's up to you. And blaming a horrendous center who often times turns around and watches the defender abuse Purdy is not an excuse. Instead of admitting it, you say well there's tons of other bad centers in the league. Wow. Talk about issues.It's a reality. I think you're not in touch with cause and effect.

nobody's trying to pretend it was everyone else's fault and Brock had no part in this. You have some serious problems with your posts. You cannot admit anything, dude you're wrong. Great players that are performing horribly or that are injured certainly affect other players performances (look at Stroud). Stop speaking in hyperbole. That's all you do, you can't admit anything and it's so disheartening. That's why so many people rip on you. You have not learned your lesson at all. Just admit that it's a big factor. Shanahan addressed this in his last interview recently. Also what you keep deflecting is the QUALITY of players injured on the 49ers are much higher than any other team in the league this year. Accept it, we set a record for most games missed by all pros and pro bowl players in the last 30 years hahaha.

Dude seriously your narrative is just reaching, biased and defensive (like always) but you need to address the issue which is you and your posts. Sorry to call you out again but that's all you do and you don't change. Talk about being better? You gotta start taking accountability and admitting you're wrong. That's the first step.

serious question NY, just for your mental health and well-being, have you ever considered therapy or have you seen a therapist? Your posts really bring out some issues and it can affect other parts of one's life in a negative way. I think it would help you so much.

I listen to too many football and 49er podcasts. I listen to locked on every day.

Show me the metric. Show the ranking and where it came from…you have no proof, so it's meaningless.

You calling me defensive? Pot meet kettle. You can't admit a damn thing and making up stuff all the damn time. You diminish anyone else's point even when there's film and metrics backing it up.

Now you want to make it personal for whatever reason. My life is great dude, no complaints here. we're talking football in a forum. this is just fun for me. I will point out bull crap and bias takes all the same.

I've admitted I'm wrong many times. Not once have I heard you say that. Learned what exactly? Was I wrong about Jimmy end of the day…same people constantly coming after me and making excuses for him, instead of keep s**t real and objective. I can separate my fandom & being objective about a player or coach. Can you??

if you READ my other posts you will see that I have stated we have the 2nd highest cap hit on IR. Never said it wasn't a part of the bad season.

When you want to have an objective conversation about the QB, let me know. So far you've been incapable of it. Put the fandom to the side for once. It Brock played anywhere else you wouldn't be this defensive about him.

it's okay to admit he didn't play well all on his own. Yes the roster didn't help and of course that plays a part. It IS Brock's fault when he's late on his reads, under throws balls. Misses reads and throws back breaking INTs late in games. I say all this and still want him to be the guy here.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Jan 3, 2025 at 3:23 PM ]
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
This season doesn't suggest that. Not all his fault since he's stuck with a tomato can as OC but that offense is middling at best. Chargers defense is carrying them.

He hast been the same as the other 4 since 2021.

This season actually does suggest it - as I've pointed out above. His defense carries him just as much as the Chiefs D carries Mahomes.

Herbert easily rounds out the top 5 QB's that can 'carry' a team.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by RickyRoma:
You can add a 5th in Herbert.

Nah.

I'm surprised you said 'Nah'. If he's not in the top tier of 4, then he is in his own tier just below. And that's far above the next tier with Purdy in it .
Originally posted by RickyRoma:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
This season doesn't suggest that. Not all his fault since he's stuck with a tomato can as OC but that offense is middling at best. Chargers defense is carrying them.

He hast been the same as the other 4 since 2021.

This season actually does suggest it - as I've pointed out above. His defense carries him just as much as the Chiefs D carries Mahomes.

Herbert easily rounds out the top 5 QB's that can 'carry' a team.

Then why didn't he carry the team last season? They were 5 and 12 lol.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
I listen to too many football and 49er podcasts. I listen to locked on every day.

Show me the metric. Show the ranking and where it came from…you have no proof, so it's meaningless.

You calling me defensive? Pot meet kettle. You can't admit a damn thing and making up stuff all the damn time. You diminish anyone else's point even when there's film and metrics backing it up.

Now you want to make it personal for whatever reason. My life is great dude, no complaints here. we're talking football in a forum. this is just fun for me. I will point out bull crap and bias takes all the same.

When you want to have an objective conversation about the QB, let me know. So far you've been incapable of it. Put the fandom to the side for once. It Brock played anywhere else you wouldn't be this defensive about him.

it's okay to admit he didn't play well all on his own. Yes the roster didn't help and of course that plays a part. It IS Brock's fault when he's late on his reads, under throws balls. Misses reads and throws back breaking INTs late in games. I say all this and still want him to be the guy here.

You must be sadistic, lol.
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by RickyRoma:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
This season doesn't suggest that. Not all his fault since he's stuck with a tomato can as OC but that offense is middling at best. Chargers defense is carrying them.

He hast been the same as the other 4 since 2021.

This season actually does suggest it - as I've pointed out above. His defense carries him just as much as the Chiefs D carries Mahomes.

Herbert easily rounds out the top 5 QB's that can 'carry' a team.

Then why didn't he carry the team last season? They were 5 and 12 lol.
because people are unable to know anything that happened in the past.. and think today is how it's always been
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Then why didn't he carry the team last season? They were 5 and 12 lol.

Because coaching/defense/injuries matter. Burrow's defense this year is s**t.....do you hold that against him? The Chargers had arguably the worst HC in football last year + a bad defense + Herbert missed 3 or 4 games. It all added up to a terrible season.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
I listen to too many football and 49er podcasts. I listen to locked on every day.

Show me the metric. Show the ranking and where it came from…you have no proof, so it's meaningless.

You calling me defensive? Pot meet kettle. You can't admit a damn thing and making up stuff all the damn time. You diminish anyone else's point even when there's film and metrics backing it up.

Now you want to make it personal for whatever reason. My life is great dude, no complaints here. we're talking football in a forum. this is just fun for me. I will point out bull crap and bias takes all the same.

When you want to have an objective conversation about the QB, let me know. So far you've been incapable of it. Put the fandom to the side for once. It Brock played anywhere else you wouldn't be this defensive about him.

it's okay to admit he didn't play well all on his own. Yes the roster didn't help and of course that plays a part. It IS Brock's fault when he's late on his reads, under throws balls. Misses reads and throws back breaking INTs late in games. I say all this and still want him to be the guy here.

You must be sadistic, lol.

No I work remote lol
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
because people are unable to know anything that happened in the past.. and think today is how it's always been

So, how do you judge Purdy ? From the past season or this season ?
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i say it cuz all his balls are rainbows. he's just floating everything. he's not driving the ball to the flat or outside the numbers. he's not ripping the ball up the seam. right now he plays quick mentally and the ball travels slowly. so if i'm shanny and my QB is soft tossing i have a problem. i can't ask my QB to hit those deep outs, i have to bend everything inward so it's less time in air and more brock friendly. yet that makes us kinda predictable. for over a year now i see teams sitting on those in breaking routes. that's gonna be an area with a lot of traffic until we make em pay in other areas of the field.

Or maybe because his only outside the numbers guy was never really himself the few games he played. Jennings, Deebo and Kittle are all over the middle guys. That's pretty much all he had to throw to all year. Hopefully Pearsall will help BA going forward and we should be able to get back to using the whole field. So to me it's a personnel thing and not a QB thing.

in my viewing, how brock is spinning it is not a product of who is on the receiving end. that's just on brock. i see QBs all over the league drive that ball. i can't name a QB in football with an arm like this. at least not a QB1. he plays fast, and i respect a QB who plays fast. nothing is worse than a QB who plays slow, or doesn't see the field, and he can do those aspects. it's just limiting when the arm is very suspect.
Originally posted by RickyRoma:
Because coaching/defense/injuries matter. Burrow's defense this year is s**t.....do you hold that against him? The Chargers had arguably the worst HC in football last year + a bad defense + Herbert missed 3 or 4 games. It all added up to a terrible season.

It's a team game. Individual players are not carrying teams, including great QBs. Def not carrying them to playoff success and SB wins at least.

Herbert is in that top group for me because there's nothing he can't do on the football field that you'd reasonably expect from a QB. He has prototypical size, a top 2-3 arm in the game, he's extremely accurate, a very good decision maker, and he's mobile.
Originally posted by RickyRoma:
This season actually does suggest it - as I've pointed out above. His defense carries him just as much as the Chiefs D carries Mahomes.

Herbert easily rounds out the top 5 QB's that can 'carry' a team.

23rd in total yards. 11th in ppg. It's a middling offense.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
in my viewing, how brock is spinning it is not a product of who is on the receiving end. that's just on brock. i see QBs all over the league drive that ball. i can't name a QB in football with an arm like this. at least not a QB1. he plays fast, and i respect a QB who plays fast. nothing is worse than a QB who plays slow, or doesn't see the field, and he can do those aspects. it's just limiting when the arm is very suspect.

Again this post didn't exist in 2021.
Originally posted by RickyRoma:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Then why didn't he carry the team last season? They were 5 and 12 lol.

Because coaching/defense/injuries matter. Burrow's defense this year is s**t.....do you hold that against him? The Chargers had arguably the worst HC in football last year + a bad defense + Herbert missed 3 or 4 games. It all added up to a terrible season.

Ok. So then he can't carry a team lol. And this year it's the run game / defense doing the work.
Originally posted by bmvanthiel:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

To finish painting the picture:

Jimmy had 38 carries 51 yards 3 TDs 15 first downs and 4 fumbles

Brock had 66 carries 323 yards 5Tds 33 first downs and 2 fumbles

Also more to the picture:

One is a 2x Super Bowl Winner

One is a Super Bowl Loser

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