QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
No I don't want an average of all three years. I know he played at an elite/super high level his first two years. But the amount of drop off from 2022 and 2023 this year was alarming and to an extent where I cannot confidently project anymore elite play from 2022 and 2023.

I don't want to pay for past performance. Contracts are for future performance and his most recent 20 games looks awful and certainly not worthy of big money especially to a QB with almost no elite tangible traits.

Like I said, pay him but we need an out after the 2026 season where we can move on if he plays like he did this year.

3 of the 4 best non-QB offensive players were absolutely useless this year.

That's the cause of the dropoff.

expect permanent drop off then unless you think prime trent or career year cmc are walking thru that door

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
No I don't want an average of all three years. I know he played at an elite/super high level his first two years. But the amount of drop off from 2022 and 2023 this year was alarming and to an extent where I cannot confidently project anymore elite play from 2022 and 2023.

I don't want to pay for past performance. Contracts are for future performance and his most recent 20 games looks awful and certainly not worthy of big money especially to a QB with almost no elite tangible traits.

Like I said, pay him but we need an out after the 2026 season where we can move on if he plays like he did this year.

3 of the 4 best non-QB offensive players were absolutely useless this year.

That's the cause of the dropoff.

expect permanent drop off then unless you think prime trent or career year cmc are walking thru that door

permanent drop off ?

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Tua threw for 3700 yards in 2022.

I'm not sure what that has to do with the point, but he threw for that number in 13 games. He averaged more yards per game than Purdy did in 23.

Tua also had Tyrek Hill who is ridiculously good and Waddle. Much much better WRs. The difference is he constantly choked and could not extend plays like Brock.

He signed yet?

Waiting to hear that pen has been put to paper. And he will be worth every penny of it.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

"I want to get it done quick." - #49ers QB Brock Purdy on if a contract extension is an option

His goal is a DRAMA FREE negation and to be ready with his team for Phase 1.

????: @mattblively #FTTB #Niners

pic.twitter.com/jFDzGfPDfL

— 49ers & NFL News 24/7 (@49ersSportsTalk) January 6, 2025

That is my QB1

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
I do think Lance needs more reps.

Doesn't mean he will be good once he gets them but obviously a super raw player needs as many reps as possible. I cannot judge ultimate suck-ness on 4 starts in the NFL and make definitive conclusions. But it looks like he won't be the player the 49ers wanted him to be which is good since he is on Dallas now.

Trading Purdy has to do with his contract and wanting a long-term one in the 55-60m per year area. That is just a huge risk to take based on what we saw this year in his performance and injury proneness to his throwing arm. If one is going to get that kind of money he should be performing much better than he did adversity or not, and we should expect to see strong performances during adversity and elevate his teammates around him.

Just curious... were you a Jimmy fan his last couple years here and still believed in him because we made the SB with him in 2020? I have no idea.

I like Brock and maybe he can be great assuming he will perform like he did his first two years. Problem is there is now, based on his mediocre performance this year, huge RISK in extending his contract long-term at that kind of money. Go ahead give him the money but the Niners better structure some sort of out after two years where they can move off him for only a limited cap hit if he keeps regressing allowing us the flexibility to draft a QB high in the draft if we like one of them and not feel as though we can't because of all the $ committed to Brock.

I was always indifferent about Jimmy..I thought he was good but for the most part, I was indifferent. As far as after 2020..mostly the same feeling. I think I have felt this way about every QB since Garcia or Young..until Brock. He just has been outstanding. Not without some mistakes this year, sure..and the arm health seems to be a possible concern some idk. But overall, I still think he is the dude for us going forward for a while.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
No I don't want an average of all three years. I know he played at an elite/super high level his first two years. But the amount of drop off from 2022 and 2023 this year was alarming and to an extent where I cannot confidently project anymore elite play from 2022 and 2023.

I don't want to pay for past performance. Contracts are for future performance and his most recent 20 games looks awful and certainly not worthy of big money especially to a QB with almost no elite tangible traits.

Like I said, pay him but we need an out after the 2026 season where we can move on if he plays like he did this year.

3 of the 4 best non-QB offensive players were absolutely useless this year.

That's the cause of the dropoff.

expect permanent drop off then unless you think prime trent or career year cmc are walking thru that door

Couldnt imagine using the nearly $40M those two cost on other players to help rather than spending that money on nothing.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Couldnt imagine using the nearly $40M those two cost on other players to help rather than spending that money on nothing.

are you suggesting we just liquidate cmc and trent for cap space? what are you saying here?

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Tua threw for 3700 yards in 2022.

I'm not sure what that has to do with the point, but he threw for that number in 13 games. He averaged more yards per game than Purdy did in 23.

Tua also had Tyrek Hill who is ridiculously good and Waddle. Much much better WRs. The difference is he constantly choked and could not extend plays like Brock.

Tua couldn't extend plays ut he's a more accurate deep passer. Tyreek and Waddle would need to constantly slow up for Purdy's deep passes. It's not his fault that he doesn't have a rocket arm. He's much better throwing out to 25 yards Maybe 30 but really deep passes from him tend to hang up too long. Just stay within your skill set.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Tua couldn't extend plays ut he's a more accurate deep passer. Tyreek and Waddle would need to constantly slow up for Purdy's deep passes. It's not his fault that he doesn't have a rocket arm. He's much better throwing out to 25 yards Maybe 30 but really deep passes from him tend to hang up too long. Just stay within your skill set.

stay within your skill set means shanny has his work cut out. it's all short to intermediate and over the middle stuff.

Faithful wants Darnold or even Jimmy over Purdy. Anyone debating him on Purdy needs to understand that context.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

expect permanent drop off then unless you think prime trent or career year cmc are walking thru that door

Prime? I expect better than those who replaced them.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Couldnt imagine using the nearly $40M those two cost on other players to help rather than spending that money on nothing.

are you suggesting we just liquidate cmc and trent for cap space? what are you saying here?

Won't they be back?

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Faithful wants Darnold or even Jimmy over Purdy. Anyone debating him on Purdy needs to understand that context.

speak for yourself. i ask you don't speak for me i can do that. these are falsehoods. i like jimmy but his day here is done and that's a good thing it ran its course. sam ran his course here also. we should have played him or given him some games to see what that looked like would be my take on him. he had a good year this year. he won't return to SF.

now i remember you telling me for years, what a mistake it was to pay a mid QB. well let's see how you change your tune on this one. or do you still agree with your former self?