QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by eric_anthony:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
And Brock Passed for 377 yards vs Detroit with a make shift O-line. Stop talking nonsense.

Cool he does that when the season is over. Why couldn't he do that against the Rams with the season on the line?

Oh but he did, he passed for 3 TD's against them in their house.

Brock Purdy was asked to play hero ball all season. I don't blame him for making a lot of bad decisions in those circumstances. He's a young QB who is still learning. He needs to understand when to check it down. I don't like Tom Brady as an announcer but he did make a good point about how the check down needs to be your #1 read when defenses are playing a certain way. Scrap the designed progression and just check it down right away. He needs to set his risk/reward dial back a little. It's funny all these national pundits think he's a checkdown QB when he's actually more of a gunslinger that is way too aggressive right now.

Originally posted by Leathaface:
Brock Purdy was asked to play hero ball all season. I don't blame him for making a lot of bad decisions in those circumstances. He's a young QB who is still learning. He needs to understand when to check it down. I don't like Tom Brady as an announcer but he did make a good point about how the check down needs to be your #1 read when defenses are playing a certain way. Scrap the designed progression and just check it down right away. He needs to set his risk/reward dial back a little. It's funny all these national pundits think he's a checkdown QB when he's actually more of a gunslinger that is way too aggressive right now.

Yep. Check down is a tool for manipulating defenses in certain situations. You force them to adjust out of what's working for them.

Originally posted by Leathaface:
Brock Purdy was asked to play hero ball all season. I don't blame him for making a lot of bad decisions in those circumstances. He's a young QB who is still learning. He needs to understand when to check it down. I don't like Tom Brady as an announcer but he did make a good point about how the check down needs to be your #1 read when defenses are playing a certain way. Scrap the designed progression and just check it down right away. He needs to set his risk/reward dial back a little. It's funny all these national pundits think he's a checkdown QB when he's actually more of a gunslinger that is way too aggressive right now.

Good post.

checkdowns should be young QB go to as they get comfortable facing different types of defenses and/or looks. Shoot, as you mentioned, even HOF players like Tom and Manning would resort to using them all game when needed.

I mentioned this before, but I think some of the pundits may have gotten in Brocks head with all the checkdown merchant talk, that he refuses to use it.

We've seen media influence Purdy before.
For example, when Colin Cowherd talked about Purdy not being a serious leader wearing his hat backwards. Purdy turned that hat around.

Why would anyone listen to Colin Cowherd.

He hasn't got two brain cells.

Originally posted by RonnieLott:

Why would anyone listen to Colin Cowherd.

He hasn't got two brain cells.

Right? People basing opinions on shock jocks.

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Why would anyone listen to Colin Cowherd.

He hasn't got two brain cells.

Agree and I doubt Purdy is the type to be influenced by the media..I think he did wear is hat backwards some after that comment but who the hell cares about that? Lol

Originally posted by Leathaface:
Brock Purdy was asked to play hero ball all season. I don't blame him for making a lot of bad decisions in those circumstances. He's a young QB who is still learning. He needs to understand when to check it down. I don't like Tom Brady as an announcer but he did make a good point about how the check down needs to be your #1 read when defenses are playing a certain way. Scrap the designed progression and just check it down right away. He needs to set his risk/reward dial back a little. It's funny all these national pundits think he's a checkdown QB when he's actually more of a gunslinger that is way too aggressive right now.

Right? Good post. I have heard the term, "Checkdown Charlie" and I am like, well, really?

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Don't expect a holdout for Brock Purdy if/when he signs his contract extension.

"I'm not the kind of guy that wants to have any kind of drama associated with anything. I'm here for this organization. For my teammates in the locker room. I want to be very professional about it." pic.twitter.com/M14DDjRZtO

— KNBR (@KNBR) January 6, 2025

Uhh that's not how I read his full comments at all. He said he wants it to be done early so there is no mini camp disruption, no time missed.

Translation: he's not showing up to mini camp/training camp without a new deal. Nowhere in the interview does he say he won't hold out. And he doesn't say that because he 100% WILL hold out. I'm confident he won't be "unprofessional" like aiyuk but he will hold out if he has to

He's under contract whether he holds out or not. Even after that contract year, he can be franchised. He had a subpar year as a former 7th round pick. He hasnt proven he can do much without great pieces around him. There is no possible threat of retirement.

What we've been trying to tell you is that the organization holds all the chips in this setting. You dont risk more than you have to in that scenario.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Don't expect a holdout for Brock Purdy if/when he signs his contract extension.

"I'm not the kind of guy that wants to have any kind of drama associated with anything. I'm here for this organization. For my teammates in the locker room. I want to be very professional about it." pic.twitter.com/M14DDjRZtO

— KNBR (@KNBR) January 6, 2025

Uhh that's not how I read his full comments at all. He said he wants it to be done early so there is no mini camp disruption, no time missed.

Translation: he's not showing up to mini camp/training camp without a new deal. Nowhere in the interview does he say he won't hold out. And he doesn't say that because he 100% WILL hold out. I'm confident he won't be "unprofessional" like aiyuk but he will hold out if he has to

He's under contract whether he holds out or not. Even after that contract year, he can be franchised. He had a subpar year as a former 7th round pick. He hasnt proven he can do much without great pieces around him. There is no possible threat of retirement.

What we've been trying to tell you is that the organization holds all the chips in this setting. You dont risk more than you have to in that scenario.

He had a subpar year as a former 7th round pick? What do you mean?

While the team holds all the chips all the other players are watching. So go ahead and strong arm your franchise qb then see how free agents and others players behave once it's their turn. You don't want to create that negativity is my point.

it's a two way street too. I think TW and BA helped derail this season by being stubborn idiots.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Good post.

checkdowns should be young QB go to as they get comfortable facing different types of defenses and/or looks. Shoot, as you mentioned, even HOF players like Tom and Manning would resort to using them all game when needed.

Situation matters...a ton... like that is the primary condition. You can't take a winning team, and turn wins into losses by being careless..... but..I have always had the exact opposite mindset. I want young QBs to push the ball, learn their boundaries, show they can turn a loss into a win.

I guess a better way to put it, Elvis Garbac...did not have the luxury of finding his boundaries, that was a roster made for the playoffs. Brock Purdy was on that end of the pool too, but he somehow came out guns blazing and made it work.

Alex Smith, had little reason to not risk big mistakes to try and win games. His supporting cast early on was not going to win a ton without high tier QBing. Joe Montana was on that end of the pool too, the 49ers were 8-24 since he was drafted...checking down non-stop was not going to turn the tide.

"He is young and inexperienced" only works for so long before it falls on deaf ears, but it does work if the QB can flash real talent. Playing not to loose...and loosing a ton doing is probably less forgivable.

Anyways...that is all hinging on the situation, but I do prefer aggressive mindsets from a young QB.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Don't expect a holdout for Brock Purdy if/when he signs his contract extension.

"I'm not the kind of guy that wants to have any kind of drama associated with anything. I'm here for this organization. For my teammates in the locker room. I want to be very professional about it." pic.twitter.com/M14DDjRZtO

— KNBR (@KNBR) January 6, 2025

Uhh that's not how I read his full comments at all. He said he wants it to be done early so there is no mini camp disruption, no time missed.

Translation: he's not showing up to mini camp/training camp without a new deal. Nowhere in the interview does he say he won't hold out. And he doesn't say that because he 100% WILL hold out. I'm confident he won't be "unprofessional" like aiyuk but he will hold out if he has to

He's under contract whether he holds out or not. Even after that contract year, he can be franchised. He had a subpar year as a former 7th round pick. He hasnt proven he can do much without great pieces around him. There is no possible threat of retirement.

What we've been trying to tell you is that the organization holds all the chips in this setting. You dont risk more than you have to in that scenario.

He had a subpar year as a former 7th round pick? What do you mean?

While the team holds all the chips all the other players are watching. So go ahead and strong arm your franchise qb then see how free agents and others players behave once it's their turn. You don't want to create that negativity is my point.

it's a two way street too. I think TW and BA helped derail this season by being stubborn idiots.

End of the day it's the GM's fault if they overpay or pay for someone that doesn't perform, not the player. TW should not have been restructured given his age and injury history it would have made sense for them to let him walk and draft his replacement. BA should not have been given bit time WR money since he's not a top 5 WR. Both of those failures fall on Lynch. Now we see if they make the same mistake and overpay for a QB they hold all the chips with. If they do, we are sunk for the next 5 years.

I'm not saying Purdy isn't the best QB we've had in a long time (he is) but I'm saying you can't give a guy money simply because he's the best option you have available. Some guys have the talent to win and put the teams on their back, others require all the talent around them to rise. If you're the former you get top money, if not, you don't. That's the reality because in a Salary Cap world when you pay a QB top money the rest of the talent on the team suffers.

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Don't expect a holdout for Brock Purdy if/when he signs his contract extension.

"I'm not the kind of guy that wants to have any kind of drama associated with anything. I'm here for this organization. For my teammates in the locker room. I want to be very professional about it." pic.twitter.com/M14DDjRZtO

— KNBR (@KNBR) January 6, 2025

Uhh that's not how I read his full comments at all. He said he wants it to be done early so there is no mini camp disruption, no time missed.

I could be misreading your post....but what I am taking from you is something akin to Brock telling the 49ers "I don't want any drama from you, we need this done early, so there is no mini camp disruption no time missed."

Having listened to the entire interview....I am 200% sure he did not mean anything like that

Could I be wrong? Sure...but I highly doubt it.

In my opinion Brock went way out of his way to make sure a few things were known.

1. He is a 49er and whatever it takes, he is going to remain a 49er if it is with-in his power.

2. His primary focus is improving as a QB and a team. He wanted to push money to the back burner, does not want to talk about it...this is about football.

3. He either has "no idea" how new contracts work, or wants to end the questioning about new contracts with the I have never done this before answer. That gave him cover for number 4.

4. He did not say he would not holdout.

5. He did say he would be the professional. I took that to mean if he DID holdout, it would look nothing like BA or TW or Deebo. I expect we would get radio silence from his side, and this would not play out with competing sound bites being lobed back and forth.

I am with NY on this one....I don't think we see a holdout over fake "ego" money. You know the whole "I gotta get 30m a year!!" but when you read the fine print it was always 20m a year when the final year was voided...but somebody had to get their name in the paper as one of the highest paid guys.... I dont think we see any of that.

Heck I don't think we see a holdout at all...but if there is one...it's going to be something fundamental, and I would speculate having to do with injury protection incase his arm does not last out his career.

Originally posted by Leathaface:
Brock Purdy was asked to play hero ball all season. I don't blame him for making a lot of bad decisions in those circumstances. He's a young QB who is still learning. He needs to understand when to check it down. I don't like Tom Brady as an announcer but he did make a good point about how the check down needs to be your #1 read when defenses are playing a certain way. Scrap the designed progression and just check it down right away. He needs to set his risk/reward dial back a little. It's funny all these national pundits think he's a checkdown QB when he's actually more of a gunslinger that is way too aggressive right now.

Brock Purdy's year 3 is much better than Josh Allen's year 3.

Originally posted by RedGoldSquatch:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Don't expect a holdout for Brock Purdy if/when he signs his contract extension.

"I'm not the kind of guy that wants to have any kind of drama associated with anything. I'm here for this organization. For my teammates in the locker room. I want to be very professional about it." pic.twitter.com/M14DDjRZtO

— KNBR (@KNBR) January 6, 2025

Uhh that's not how I read his full comments at all. He said he wants it to be done early so there is no mini camp disruption, no time missed.

Translation: he's not showing up to mini camp/training camp without a new deal. Nowhere in the interview does he say he won't hold out. And he doesn't say that because he 100% WILL hold out. I'm confident he won't be "unprofessional" like aiyuk but he will hold out if he has to

He's under contract whether he holds out or not. Even after that contract year, he can be franchised. He had a subpar year as a former 7th round pick. He hasnt proven he can do much without great pieces around him. There is no possible threat of retirement.

What we've been trying to tell you is that the organization holds all the chips in this setting. You dont risk more than you have to in that scenario.

He had a subpar year as a former 7th round pick? What do you mean?

While the team holds all the chips all the other players are watching. So go ahead and strong arm your franchise qb then see how free agents and others players behave once it's their turn. You don't want to create that negativity is my point.

it's a two way street too. I think TW and BA helped derail this season by being stubborn idiots.

End of the day it's the GM's fault if they overpay or pay for someone that doesn't perform, not the player. TW should not have been restructured given his age and injury history it would have made sense for them to let him walk and draft his replacement. BA should not have been given bit time WR money since he's not a top 5 WR. Both of those failures fall on Lynch. Now we see if they make the same mistake and overpay for a QB they hold all the chips with. If they do, we are sunk for the next 5 years.

I'm not saying Purdy isn't the best QB we've had in a long time (he is) but I'm saying you can't give a guy money simply because he's the best option you have available. Some guys have the talent to win and put the teams on their back, others require all the talent around them to rise. If you're the former you get top money, if not, you don't. That's the reality because in a Salary Cap world when you pay a QB top money the rest of the talent on the team suffers.

Agree on TW, they f'ed themselves for sure. That fiasco hurt the team.

Purdy will get market value. Which is probably 50, but I don't know?. I understand the elite QB class. There are maybe 4, but the market is the market and in this league good qb's get paid.

It's really not the money, but the players performance. If Purdy is a let down it sucks. If he plays well who cares.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
He had a subpar year as a former 7th round pick? What do you mean?

While the team holds all the chips all the other players are watching. So go ahead and strong arm your franchise qb then see how free agents and others players behave once it's their turn. You don't want to create that negativity is my point.

it's a two way street too. I think TW and BA helped derail this season by being stubborn idiots.

I can't imagine that the season was derailed because a WR and LT held out. You're starting FQB doing that is way different.