QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
We spent 3 firsts on a player with the skillset and quickly learned it doesn't mean all that much. Jimmy would implode on this team, Brock did not

Lance should have never left college. I was totally wrong saying it was smart for him to go and learn in the NFL with Kyle. Kid still needs reps and was never gonna get that on a good team. Going to Dallas was just as bad for him. Dude should be playing for the titans or some s**t. Could be Darnold like in a couple years. More than likely won't be.

Brock played a ton of football before he got here. He for sure handled pressure better than Jimmy. Unfortunately he's still a limited QB end of the day. He will depend on everyone around him more than other top end QBs because of it. As long as they continue to have a top end roster, Brock will be fine. Getting paid a f**k ton muddies that up a little.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Totally agree. Who ya got this yr in the draft? I mean I know Kyle isn't gonna draft a center and play him yr 1 but it's still fun to talk about

With Logan Jones going back to Iowa I'd take a guy like Marcus Mbow and put him inside at guard with the idea of eventually moving him to center if you can't secure a long term solution.

Brock knows it is in his best interest to get the other elite players signed before him. He knows that he will probably be the first to go if this team does not win. Or he will be benched.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
With Logan Jones going back to Iowa I'd take a guy like Marcus Mbow and put him inside at guard with the idea of eventually moving him to center if you can't secure a long term solution.

Oh I got him on my "watch" list already

Grey Zabel is another guy I'm gonna check out

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Brock is top half of the league in pretty much every qb rating system there is, and this is supposed to be a terrible season. I'd give Brock 70 mil if my only other option was mariota

i wouldn't. even if you grant brock is better than other guys he's not $70m better.

and btw on a lot of those metrics top half of the league, where do you think jimmy was? i like jimmy and he did good things here, but it's hard to say he or brock are ideal fits for this offense. shanny's downfall may be he never found a QB with the skill set that is ideal.

We spent 3 firsts on a player with the skillset and quickly learned it doesn't mean all that much. Jimmy would implode on this team, Brock did not

history shows jimmy entered a 1-10 situation, the team won out. so that's historical reality vs your scenarios you are creating in your mind.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i don't think he did well vs GB or DET or KC. he didn't make huge mistakes but the offense wasn't moving that well either. the one playoff game he really showed out iirc is Seattle. in NFL, and we saw this with Kaepernick, the league adjusts. they figure out what you don't do well, and they force you to do that. having success early doesn't mean you will have 10-15 years of it. i learned that with Colin. brock will probably get paid for the rook contract achievements, but looking at his game, it's hard to say he gives us an edge over the NFC field. we had a 6 win season and he was healthy for most of it

But winning games throwing the ball 8 times or because the special teams got you your only td means long term success

The most important traits for a QB is how well you process. Nothing else comes close.

He's still in the Jimmy thread telling us how amazing Jimmy is lol. Everyone one else is blind, NFL execs are blind, media is blind. But faithful thinks he's smarter than everyone on else.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Brock is top half of the league in pretty much every qb rating system there is, and this is supposed to be a terrible season. I'd give Brock 70 mil if my only other option was mariota

i wouldn't. even if you grant brock is better than other guys he's not $70m better.

and btw on a lot of those metrics top half of the league, where do you think jimmy was? i like jimmy and he did good things here, but it's hard to say he or brock are ideal fits for this offense. shanny's downfall may be he never found a QB with the skill set that is ideal.

We spent 3 firsts on a player with the skillset and quickly learned it doesn't mean all that much. Jimmy would implode on this team, Brock did not

history shows jimmy entered a 1-10 situation, the team won out. so that's historical reality vs your scenarios you are creating in your mind.

ah back to wins again.. but that doesn't count for brock ?

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
He's still in the Jimmy thread telling us how amazing Jimmy is lol. Everyone one else is blind, NFL execs are blind, media is blind. But faithful thinks he's smarter than everyone on else.

I took your advice and took him off ignore for the lols. Unfortunately, I get far more frustrated than entertained. Debating putting him back on ignore.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Brock is top half of the league in pretty much every qb rating system there is, and this is supposed to be a terrible season. I'd give Brock 70 mil if my only other option was mariota

i wouldn't. even if you grant brock is better than other guys he's not $70m better.

and btw on a lot of those metrics top half of the league, where do you think jimmy was? i like jimmy and he did good things here, but it's hard to say he or brock are ideal fits for this offense. shanny's downfall may be he never found a QB with the skill set that is ideal.

We spent 3 firsts on a player with the skillset and quickly learned it doesn't mean all that much. Jimmy would implode on this team, Brock did not

history shows jimmy entered a 1-10 situation, the team won out. so that's historical reality vs your scenarios you are creating in your mind.

ah back to wins again.. but that doesn't count for brock ?

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
He's still in the Jimmy thread telling us how amazing Jimmy is lol. Everyone one else is blind, NFL execs are blind, media is blind. But faithful thinks he's smarter than everyone on else.

just having an opinion on these players. my opinion is jimmy did pretty good here. i see brock as similar to jimmy, now in 2017 i think 100% of the fanbase was on board with paying jimmy. now it's more 50/50 like our poll above shows. brock plays better with the free rusher, less panic in his game, but he's also a lil smaller with not as good an arm.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
ah back to wins again.. but that doesn't count for brock ?

Also not counting what was a pretty abysmal start prior to shredding his knee in 2018. Jimmy looked bad.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
ah back to wins again.. but that doesn't count for brock ?

Also not counting what was a pretty abysmal start prior to shredding his knee in 2018. Jimmy looked bad.

pick 6 in his first or second game as a franchise starter (2018) ?

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
just having an opinion on these players. my opinion is jimmy did pretty good here. i see brock as similar to jimmy, now in 2017 i think 100% of the fanbase was on board with paying jimmy. now it's more 50/50 like our poll above shows. brock plays better with the free rusher, less panic in his game, but he's also a lil smaller with not as good an arm.

Arms are a push. Jimmy never had a great arm and unlike Brock never threw deep.

Brock plays better at literally every part of being a quarterback.

100% of the fanbase was wrong about paying Jimmy including myself. At least Brock has shown what he's capable of. To act like he's a finished product who can't get better is maddening.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
pick 6 in his first or second game as a franchise starter (2018) ?

He had 3 picks against Minnesota in the opener… to be fair that was a tough matchup.

Nearly threw the next game away with a pick that was called back by a penalty.

Couldn't do anything offensively against the Chiefs until the game was already over (35-10 at half I believe)

well if they are saying he's the then pay the man