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QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Arms are a push. Jimmy never had a great arm and unlike Brock never threw deep.

Brock plays better at literally every part of being a quarterback.

100% of the fanbase was wrong about paying Jimmy including myself. At least Brock has shown what he's capable of. To act like he's a finished product who can't get better is maddening.

The 49ers were right to pay Jimmy. Kyle would have been fired if he didn't.
Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
The 49ers were right to pay Jimmy. Kyle would have been fired if he didn't.

Kyle wasnt getting fired after one season.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
The 49ers were right to pay Jimmy. Kyle would have been fired if he didn't.

Kyle wasnt getting fired after one season.
lol
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Very easily. It's a lot easier to tell if a receiver beats a corner in man coverage on a route than an offensive lineman not making a block due to their assignment not being what we think it is (or PFF).

If the WR beats a guy, but runs the wrong route on a play call, who cares? Do WRs get credit for helping extend plays when s**t breaks down and it's a scramble drill? Teams don't run man coverage every single snap. What about every zone coverage snap?

How about you learn how they grade things like pass pro?

https://www.pff.com/news/pro-how-pff-grades-pass-protection

The only reason you poo poo PFF and how they grade the OL is because it doesn't backup your narrative. It was the same thing with NC, who would then turn around and use it to prop up teams who he thought had great OLs

Damn near every metric had SF OL as below avg to bad in pass pro the past couple yrs. No one should be trying to say that wasn't true. They sucked last yr and they sucked this yr when it came down to having to do true pass sets.

Huh? How about you learn how to actually analyze a play instead of sticking to your narratives which are often wrong.

Maybe you don't analyze all the games bc any individual can clearly see that our pass pro was horrific. Just like you couldn't admit that Brendel was worse this year than last year . Instead of saying you were wrong, all you said was he was bad both years. Not a good look.

I don't have a narrative. All I want is for the pass protection and now run blocking to improve which both regressed. I don't sit there and try to make them out to be better than they are so I could put more of the blame on Brock Purdy like you do.
Purdy will regress starting next season.

Every player we pay tends fall off, immediatly after getting paid by the 49ers.
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Purdy will regress starting next season.

Every player we pay tends fall off, immediatly after getting paid by the 49ers.

He already regressed this season, so we don't have to worry about that.
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Purdy will regress starting next season.

Every player we pay tends fall off, immediatly after getting paid by the 49ers.

He already regressed this season, so we don't have to worry about that.

I guess you have a point, problem is our QB evaluation is horrible and we lucked into Purdy who IMO is a pretty good one. So we better pay and keep him because we can't draft a QB to save our lives even with 3 first round picks. We also couldn't see Mahomes talent when he was sitting there and we saw it fit to draft Solomon Thomas rather than Mahomes.
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Purdy will regress starting next season.

Every player we pay tends fall off, immediatly after getting paid by the 49ers.

He already regressed this season, so we don't have to worry about that.
so we got that out of the way early... Arrow up
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Kyle wasnt getting fired after one season.

Uh, what?

He would have gotten fired after 2019 because he would have kept losing, as he did before Jimmy got there and in 2018 after Jimmy went down.

Do you think Kyle keeps his job starting Mullens and Beathard?
Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
Uh, what?

He would have gotten fired after 2019 because he would have kept losing, as he did before Jimmy got there and in 2018 after Jimmy went down.

Do you think Kyle keeps his job starting Mullens and Beathard?

You're assuming they make all the moves they made with Jimmy as the QB, without him. It's pretty absurd to believe that.

They aren't going three straight seasons with a combination of Hoyer, Beathard, and Mullens. They may have drafted Josh Allen or Lamar in 2018.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
You're assuming they make all the moves they made with Jimmy as the QB, without him. It's pretty absurd to believe that.

They aren't going three straight seasons with a combination of Hoyer, Beathard, and Mullens. They may have drafted Josh Allen or Lamar in 2018.

They traded for Jimmy specifically because they didn't like the QB class. Kyle wanted Cousins. At most, they would have gotten Cousins.

There is literally no chance Kyle would have drafted Lamar...for reasons that are obvious to most people who do a little bit of thinking.
[ Edited by FootballExpert49ers on Jan 8, 2025 at 5:41 PM ]
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Purdy will regress starting next season.

Every player we pay tends fall off, immediatly after getting paid by the 49ers.

He already regressed this season, so we don't have to worry about that.
so we got that out of the way early... Arrow up

I hope so
Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
They traded for Jimmy specifically because they didn't like the QB class. Kyle wanted Cousins. At most, they would have gotten Cousins.

You didn't even acknowledge the possibility of Cousins… which was exactly my point. They don't stand pat at the position without Jimmy G.

No idea where you pulled the idea that Kyle didn't like the 18 class. There's at least one QB in that group that Kyle liked* according to many reports at many different times.
[ Edited by SmokeyJoe on Jan 8, 2025 at 5:48 PM ]
Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
They traded for Jimmy specifically because they didn't like the QB class. Kyle wanted Cousins. At most, they would have gotten Cousins.

There is literally no chance Kyle would have drafted Lamar...for reasons that are obvious to most people who do a little bit of thinking.

I tend to agree, but the individual player is not the point. The point was it's extremely unlikely that they make zero moves differently than they did with Jimmy here, which is what you suggested.

We could just deal with reality instead of this nonsense, eh?
[ Edited by SmokeyJoe on Jan 8, 2025 at 5:45 PM ]
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
You didn't even acknowledge the possibility of Cousins… which was exactly my point. They don't stand pat at the position without Jimmy G.

No idea where you pulled the idea that Kyle didn't like the 18 class. There's at least one QB in that group that Kyle like according to many reports at many different times.

Because they traded a 2nd round pick for Jimmy during the 2017 season and then gave him a big contract after a 5 game sample.

I believe there were also reports at the time that he didn't like the class.

Cousins doesn't save Kyle's job. People underrate what Jimmy did in 2019. It wasn't easy.
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