QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
Because they traded a 2nd round pick for Jimmy during the 2017 season and then gave him a big contract after a 5 game sample.

I believe there were also reports at the time that he didn't like the class.

Cousins doesn't save Kyle's job. People underrate what Jimmy did in 2019. It wasn't easy.

My guy… the hypothetical deals with what happens if Jimmy isn't here. The last thing anyone should expect is that Beathard or Mullens would have been QB in 2019.

You said Kyle would have been fired if he didn't pay Jimmy G. This was less than an hour ago, lol.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
My guy… the hypothetical deals with what happens if Jimmy isn't here. The last thing anyone should expect is that Beathard or Mullens would have been QB in 2019.

You said Kyle would have been fired if he didn't pay Jimmy G. This was less than an hour ago, lol.

He would have been, because he would have kept losing.

My comment is in reply to the idea it was a mistake to pay Jimmy Garoppolo. Where's the mistake? They should have paid Kirk Cousins 180 million on 4 years instead?

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
He would have been, because he would have kept losing.

My comment is in reply to the idea it was a mistake to pay Jimmy Garoppolo. Where's the mistake? They should have paid Kirk Cousins 180 million on 4 years instead?

I don't agree it was a mistake to pay Jimmy G first of all. It made complete sense at the time.

That said, I can't hold your hand through this any longer. The easiest way I could put this, as it's seemingly so difficult for you, is you have no idea what happens at the QB position for SF if we don't sign JG. Expecting the QBs in 2019 to be one of Beathard or Mullens is foolish, as they were clear backups for a team that had a QB1 (JG).

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
I don't agree it was a mistake to pay Jimmy G first of all. It made complete sense at the time.

That said, I can't hold your hand through this any longer. The easiest way I could put this, as it's seemingly so difficult for you, is you have no idea what happens at the QB position for SF if we don't sign JG. Expecting the QBs in 2019 to be one of Beathard or Mullens is foolish, as they were clear backups for a team that had a QB1 (JG).

I have plenty of idea, because I actually know how Kyle thinks. It's not hard to figure out how coaches think when you actually pay attention.

Also, Kyle literally told people in the building he thought he could win a Super Bowl with Mullens back in 2020 when he was pissed at Jimmy.

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
I have plenty of idea, because I actually know how Kyle thinks. It's not hard to figure out how coaches think when you actually pay attention.

Also, Kyle literally told people in the building he thought he could win a Super Bowl with Mullens back in 2020 when he was pissed at Jimmy.

And then he spent 3 1st round picks on a different QB the following offseason instead, and Mullens was let go.

If you want to pretend to know how someone thinks, ignoring easy, readily available, evidence to the contrary isn't going to help.

My god this is stupid.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
And then he spent 3 1st round picks on a different QB the following offseason instead, and Mullens was let go.

If you want to pretend to know how someone thinks, ignoring easy, readily available, evidence to the contrary isn't going to help.

My god this is stupid.

What it means is Kyle thought Mullens could be good enough to win a Super Bowl with after seeing him play in 2018. He brings him into 2019 as the starter and he's fired.

In order to get Cousins, the team would've needed to outbid Minnesota's 4 year, 180 million deal.

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
What it means is Kyle thought Mullens could be good enough to win a Super Bowl with after seeing him play in 2018. He brings him into 2019 as the starter and he's fired.

In order to get Cousins, the team would've needed to outbid Minnesota's 4 year, 180 million deal.

Yet you still can't process the idea that we would have done something differently in the 17-18 offseason if Jimmy G wasn't signed… like draft a QB, or sign Cousins or someone else.

Try scrutinizing your thoughts with the available evidence. In one post you say Kyle believed he could win a SB with Mullens in 2020, but in the very next offseason Mullens was gone and we made a ridiculous move to grab somebody else. Your opinion makes no sense next to the facts.

Beyond that, you're just guessing… very poorly.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Yet you still can't process the idea that we would have done something differently in the 17-18 offseason if Jimmy G wasn't signed… like draft a QB, or sign Cousins or someone else.

Try scrutinizing your thoughts with the available evidence. In one post you say Kyle believed he could win a SB with Mullens in 2020, but in the very next offseason Mullens was gone and we made a ridiculous move to grab somebody else. Your opinion makes no sense next to the facts.

Beyond that, you're just guessing… very poorly.

There's a QB from 2018 hes talked up a lot that was clearly the hindsight choice.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
There's a QB from 2018 hes talked up a lot that was clearly the hindsight choice.

This guy just contradicts himself endlessly. It's hilarious.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Yet you still can't process the idea that we would have done something differently in the 17-18 offseason if Jimmy G wasn't signed… like draft a QB, or sign Cousins or someone else.

Try scrutinizing your thoughts with the available evidence. In one post you say Kyle believed he could win a SB with Mullens in 2020, but in the very next offseason Mullens was gone and we made a ridiculous move to grab somebody else. Your opinion makes no sense next to the facts.

Beyond that, you're just guessing… very poorly.

You can't process that nothing Kyle realistically does makes this team winning enough to keep his job. That's the entire point of my response to the other poster.

Yes, after finishing the 2020 season and coming to the conclusion that Mullens isn't actually good enough, and having a high enough pick to move up in a class with several QBs expected to be high picks, he traded up for a QB.

If you want to come up with unrealistic alternative scenarios for team decisions...

They also could have traded Steve Young to the Broncos before the 1999 season so that he never gets a career ending concussion, then signed Rich Gannon in free agency.

None of this stuff was ever considered because it wasn't remotely logical to those involved, so it makes no sense to claim the decisions that aren't that are a mistake.

The realistic considerations were paying Cousins, paying Jimmy, or Cousins choosing Minnesota over San Francisco and being stuck with Beathard, possibly some middle round draft pick from that class (all of whom suck), and signing Mullens from the practice squad, as they did, because Kyle likes QBs like Mullens.

Oh, wait. He could have had the great Josh Rosen too.

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
You can't process that nothing Kyle realistically does makes this team winning enough to keep his job. That's the entire point of my response to the other poster.

Yes, after finishing the 2020 season and coming to the conclusion that Mullens isn't actually good enough, and having a high enough pick to move up in a class with several QBs expected to be high picks, he traded up for a QB.

If you want to come up with unrealistic alternative scenarios for team decisions...

They also could have traded Steve Young to the Broncos before the 1999 season so that he never gets a career ending concussion, then signed Rich Gannon in free agency.

None of this stuff was ever considered because it wasn't remotely logical to those involved, so it makes no sense to claim the decisions that aren't that are a mistake.

The realistic considerations were paying Cousins, paying Jimmy, or Cousins choosing Minnesota over San Francisco and being stuck with Beathard, possibly some middle round draft pick from that class (all of whom suck), and signing Mullens as a free agent, as they did, because Kyle likes QBs like Mullens.

Oh, wait. He could have had the great Josh Rosen too.

Trading up from 8 to 6 to get the QB Kyle has consistently talked up wasn't realistic?

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Trading up from 8 to 6 to get the QB Kyle has consistently talked up wasn't realistic?

Who? What?

Kyle has never talked up anybody other than Darnold, and that was only because he signed him as a backup. Darnold went 3rd. They didn't like Darnold at the time, no matter what Kyle says now. They wouldn't have traded for Jimmy if they did.

They also likely wouldn't have been able to. The Browns and Jets weren't budging. The Giants wouldn't have wanted to move that far back and not get Barkley.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
My guy… the hypothetical deals with what happens if Jimmy isn't here. The last thing anyone should expect is that Beathard or Mullens would have been QB in 2019.

You said Kyle would have been fired if he didn't pay Jimmy G. This was less than an hour ago, lol.

Kyle signed a 6 yr deal in 2017. Dude wasn't even gonna interview with SF because we were that bad. He said he didn't want to come to a team that didn't have a good vet QB. There was an understanding that they weren't gonna have it all figured out and were given time. Anyone thinking he would have been fired if he didn't sign Jimmy is making up what actually went down when he was hired.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Kyle signed a 6 yr deal in 2017. Dude wasn't even gonna interview with SF because we were that bad. He said he didn't want to come to a team that didn't have a good vet QB. There was an understanding that they weren't gonna have it all figured out and were given time. Anyone thinking he would have been fired if he didn't sign Jimmy is making up what actually went down when he was hired.

Yeah, right. Because Jed would never fire a coach after excessive losing. I'm sure you're confident in Jim Tomsula and Chip Kelly turning things around. Remember how understanding Jed was in Jim Harbaugh's down season?