QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
You were paying attention then as well as you are now apparently.

Not very well :)

Yeah, yeah. I know you really think that Jed fired Harbaugh just because Harbaugh said some mean words to him. That's what they told you on Reddit, isn't it?

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
Yeah, yeah. I know you really think that Jed fired Harbaugh just because Harbaugh said some mean words to him. That's what they told you on Reddit, isn't it?

It was well known he was gone before that season started, and it probably had little to do with mean words and everything to do with front office structure.

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
They didn't realize he lacked those attributes because there was no combine. Lance's personal trainer lied about GPS times. He ran in the 4.9s at the freshman combine and it's clear watching him that was accurate.

Note also that Josh Dobbs was 3rd string, not 2nd, and that's certainly not because of physical attributes.

Kyle clearly has certain philosophies that he sticks to. Just like with Bill Parcells and Bill Belichick. You know what players at each position they would ever use, and what players they would never have any interest in.

Kyle likes guys who know his system. Rightly or wrongly that's the only reason Brandon was ahead of Josh. Not because he hates Josh skill set.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Endless contradictions.

There's nothing contradictory at all. They thought from word of mouth that he had those attributes, and they had no way of knowing he didn't because there was no combine to test those attributes.

When teams like a player, they will often want to believe in whatever the schools and other people associated with the player tell them about that player. In the old days, teams used to dismiss what players they liked actually ran at the combine or pro days and write down whatever time the college team's coaches and/or PR department told them they ran because they wanted to believe in that player's physical attributes being as good as possible.

He barely threw the ball in college, hence there was not enough evidence for Kyle to shoot down the load of BS Lynch was selling him.

Ok so Kyle really wanted a guy with a pop gun arm and zero athleticism so much he traded 3 firsts when everyone and their mother knew no one else wanted Mac in the top 10.

Why draft Brock last then? Had plenty of mid round picks to take him with.

Also CJ Beathards best attributes were his arm and sneaky athleticism. His pocket presence and ability to process were always garbage even at Iowa.

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
There's nothing contradictory at all. They thought from word of mouth that he had those attributes, and they had no way of knowing he didn't because there was no combine to test those attributes.

When teams like a player, they will often want to believe in whatever the schools and other people associated with the player tell them about that player. In the old days, teams used to dismiss what players they liked actually ran at the combine or pro days and write down whatever time the college team's coaches and/or PR department told them they ran because they wanted to believe in that player's physical attributes being as good as possible.

He barely threw the ball in college, hence there was not enough evidence for Kyle to shoot down the load of BS Lynch was selling him.

Thats the contradiction.

One poster said they targeted a guy with these skill traits, and that goes against your argument (that they don't want a guy like that).

You then say the guy didn't actually have those skill traits in response.

But then you also say they believed the guy had those skill traits, validating the original point.

Keep going please.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Thats the contradiction.

One poster said they targeted a guy with these skill traits, and that goes against your argument (that they don't want a guy like that).

You then say the guy didn't actually have those skill traits in response.

But then you also say they believed the guy had those skill traits, validating the original point.

Keep going please.

Kyle didn't want him for those traits. I'm sure Lynch and others did, but Kyle wanted Mac Jones. He was talked into Lance.

I say he didn't actually have those traits because he didn't. I'm sick of 49er fans pretending that he did.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Ok.so.Kyle really wanted a guy with a pop gun arm and zero athleticism so.much he traded 3 firsts when everyone and their mother knew no one else wanted Mac in the top 10.

Why draft Brock last then? Had plenty of mid round picks to take him with.

Also CJ Beathards best attributes were his arm and sneaky athleticism. His pocket presence and ability to process were always garbage even at Iowa.

Ricky Pearsall wasn't supposed to go in the 1st round, dude.

Kyle will reach for a player if it comes to it.

The 49ers wanted Reuben Foster at #3 if Solomon Thomas wasn't there.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
If he's not a fan of arm talent and athleticism then how was Trey Lance the pick over Mac Jones?

He doesn't like Brocks ad libs because Brock doesn't have the physical talent to consistently throw off balance or run away from would be tacklers. Brock needs to work on being more disciplined and being less gunslinger. Use it sparingly.

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
Trey Lance has no arm talent or athleticism whatsoever. He can't even throw a spiral and he got walked down by linebackers trying to get to the boundary. Dude runs 4.9.

Kyle obviously wanted Mac Jones and got talked out of it somehow...probably because it was Covid year and there was no combine to see just how bad Lance actually is. He was convinced that he could somehow turn Lance into a QB. When he realized that he couldn't, he gave up on him immediately.

No, Kyle doesn't like improvisation, period. He called Brock's touchdown vs. the Jaguars the worst decision he's ever made. Brock pulled off nearly all his ad-libs last year.

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
They didn't realize he lacked those attributes because there was no combine. Lance's personal trainer lied about GPS times. He ran in the 4.9s at the freshman combine and it's clear watching him that was accurate.

Note also that Josh Dobbs was 3rd string, not 2nd, and that's certainly not because of physical attributes.

Kyle clearly has certain philosophies that he sticks to. Just like with Bill Parcells and Bill Belichick. You know what players at each position they would ever use, and what players they would never have any interest in.

mmhmm.

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
Kyle didn't want him for those traits. I'm sure Lynch and others did, but Kyle wanted Mac Jones. He was talked into Lance.

I say he didn't actually have those traits because he didn't. I'm sick of 49er fans pretending that he did.

Well that we agree on. I spent endless time here arguing that comparisons to guys like Allen and Mahomes were laughable.

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
Ricky Pearsall wasn't supposed to go in the 1st round, dude.

Kyle will reach for a player if it comes to it.

The 49ers wanted Reuben Foster at #3 if Solomon Thomas wasn't there.

There's a difference between reaching with a pick and trading 3 1sts for a pick.

Don't understand how Kyle was so enamored with a Mac Jones skillset they traded 3 1sts for it but a Brock skillet that was superior to Mac was left for the final pick in the draft.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
There's a difference between reaching with a pick and trading 3 1sts for a pick.

Remember what Mike Ditka did to move up for Ricky Williams?

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
Kyle didn't want him for those traits. I'm sure Lynch and others did, but Kyle wanted Mac Jones. He was talked into Lance.

I say he didn't actually have those traits because he didn't. I'm sick of 49er fans pretending that he did.

Being talked into Lance doesn't change the point. Ultimately Kyle made the choice.

What exactly do you think any convincing argument consisted of?

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
Remember what Mike Ditka did to move up for Ricky Williams?

Yah a Heisman winner with elite talent. Not a dime a dozen qb who would've been replaced by the final pick of the next draft just the same as Lance was.