QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I've said this many times but I'll repeat it. Comparing players from the 80s and 90s to players today is silly. Rules have changed dramatically and the pssing game has been affected the most. I think it's more valid to rank or compare QBs pre 2000 and post 2000. Nobody will convince me that Joe and Steve couldn't have completed around 70% of their passes every year with today's rules.

A Joe Montana that had the QB protections of today would be terrifying. Guy broke down after taken an insane amount of hard hits, most of which nowadays would be flagged. With his accuracy and next level ability to read defenses, he's just picking people apart all day long.

comparing is tough but i believe QBs from the past would be a lot better today.. and can't say the same with today's QBs playing in the past

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
comparing is tough but i believe QBs from the past would be a lot better today.. and can't say the same with today's QBs playing in the past

Guys like Josh Allen & Lamar would absolutely feast on some of those slow ass defenses though

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
comparing is tough but i believe QBs from the past would be a lot better today.. and can't say the same with today's QBs playing in the past

Guys like Josh Allen & Lamar would absolutely feast on some of those slow ass defenses though

True, but they would also have a lot more trouble passing (more so Lamar), especially with the defensive holding that was allowed and contact

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
comparing is tough but i believe QBs from the past would be a lot better today.. and can't say the same with today's QBs playing in the past

For me it always comes down to coaching...

Joe's era had a ton of coaching. I always think of Joe talking about an 80 week of film study with Bill Walsh...

Dude... Purdy gets 2 hours a week...per the CBA

It is the same across the board at every position...you don't often see multiple players on the same team with 6,7 or 8 interceptions a year any more either...because guys can't sit in the film room and just memorize everything. I don't remember the exact stats..but I think 86 or 87 the 49ers were pushing 40 interceptions in 16 games. Hell back when teams had a dozen pass plays, they chargers had 60 in 14 games I think...

Yeah old guys had a hell of an advantage.

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
comparing is tough but i believe QBs from the past would be a lot better today.. and can't say the same with today's QBs playing in the past

For me it always comes down to coaching...

Joe's era had a ton of coaching. I always think of Joe talking about an 80 week of film study with Bill Walsh...

Dude... Purdy gets 2 hours a week...per the CBA

It is the same across the board at every position...you don't often see multiple players on the same team with 6,7 or 8 interceptions a year any more either...because guys can't sit in the film room and just memorize everything. I don't remember the exact stats..but I think 86 or 87 the 49ers were pushing 40 interceptions in 16 games. Hell back when teams had a dozen pass plays, they chargers had 60 in 14 games I think...

Yeah old guys had a hell of an advantage.

That coaching advantage works both ways. The defense and offense could both practice more and attend more meetings. Neither side had any great advantage. Aside from rule changes tht have helped the passing game the biggest change I've seen ir depth. With the crazy out of control salaries being paid to a few plyers teams don't have the money to sign and keep quality depth. Before the cap they coukd stockpile players.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
comparing is tough but i believe QBs from the past would be a lot better today.. and can't say the same with today's QBs playing in the past

For me it always comes down to coaching...

Joe's era had a ton of coaching. I always think of Joe talking about an 80 week of film study with Bill Walsh...

Dude... Purdy gets 2 hours a week...per the CBA

It is the same across the board at every position...you don't often see multiple players on the same team with 6,7 or 8 interceptions a year any more either...because guys can't sit in the film room and just memorize everything. I don't remember the exact stats..but I think 86 or 87 the 49ers were pushing 40 interceptions in 16 games. Hell back when teams had a dozen pass plays, they chargers had 60 in 14 games I think...

Yeah old guys had a hell of an advantage.

That coaching advantage works both ways. The defense and offense could both practice more and attend more meetings. Neither side had any great advantage. Aside from rule changes tht have helped the passing game the biggest change I've seen ir depth. With the crazy out of control salaries being paid to a few plyers teams don't have the money to sign and keep quality depth. Before the cap they coukd stockpile players.

But the 80s also had 45-man rosters instead of 53. So they used their depth on game days more.

It was simply a different sport. OL that were 275 pounds were considered big. Now an OT weighing 275 is barely heavy enough.

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
comparing is tough but i believe QBs from the past would be a lot better today.. and can't say the same with today's QBs playing in the past

For me it always comes down to coaching...

Joe's era had a ton of coaching. I always think of Joe talking about an 80 week of film study with Bill Walsh...

Dude... Purdy gets 2 hours a week...per the CBA

It is the same across the board at every position...you don't often see multiple players on the same team with 6,7 or 8 interceptions a year any more either...because guys can't sit in the film room and just memorize everything. I don't remember the exact stats..but I think 86 or 87 the 49ers were pushing 40 interceptions in 16 games. Hell back when teams had a dozen pass plays, they chargers had 60 in 14 games I think...

Yeah old guys had a hell of an advantage.

no way QBs get only 2 hrs a week to look at film

Let it BE, Let it Be, Let it Be and Let it BE.

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
comparing is tough but i believe QBs from the past would be a lot better today.. and can't say the same with today's QBs playing in the past

Guys like Josh Allen & Lamar would absolutely feast on some of those slow ass defenses though

Yea but they would also be getting hit for real! So that wouldn't happen as much as we think.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
comparing is tough but i believe QBs from the past would be a lot better today.. and can't say the same with today's QBs playing in the past

Guys like Josh Allen & Lamar would absolutely feast on some of those slow ass defenses though

Yea but they would also be getting hit for real! So that wouldn't happen as much as we think.

yeah, after every scramble, after every throw.. you got DL unloading on QBs every play.. no flags.. just gotta get up and do it again

My quarterback is Dirty Purdy.

Originally posted by frenchmov:
Guys like Josh Allen & Lamar would absolutely feast on some of those slow ass defenses though

Yeah but seeing Allen getting leveled, throwing his hands about demanding a flag and not getting one would be priceless.

Originally posted by captveg:
But the 80s also had 45-man rosters instead of 53. So they used their depth on game days more.

It was simply a different sport. OL that were 275 pounds were considered big. Now an OT weighing 275 is barely heavy enough.

All true. It's funny I remember in the 80's the Niners used to list Bubba Paris at 299 lbs when he was actually 325-340. Different times

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
comparing is tough but i believe QBs from the past would be a lot better today.. and can't say the same with today's QBs playing in the past

Provided they get access to the same PEDs and don't have to wear the big, heavy pads and long cleats.

QBs today would have no chance in the previous era because they'd have no idea how to throw with big shoulder pads, having to take actual pass drops, and having to actually read coverages within a complex offensive scheme. These kids are dumb.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Man that's a pretty wild take considering when you go into the Kyle thread and everyone calls him some controlling dictator. But you know the biggest decision of his career and this organization wasn't up to him….he was "talked" into it

Where did I say it wasn't up to him?

Dictators get talked into things all the time. You appeal to their ego.