QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
49'ers management will offer Brock 25-30 million annually which is more than enough for a systems, game managing QB.

Management is building up Brock because they know a QB needs to have confidence to win a Super Bowl and play with a chip on his shoulder.

But everyone knows Brock is a good, but not great, QB. He is going to have to have the pieces around him both on offense and defense to win a Super Bowl.

He was elite in 2023.
Calling him a game manager is dumb.

Every QB is a game manager. That's not a bad word. When s**t hits the fan and you need to go make plays when it matters…that separates the system guys and who's elite.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Boy you sure like to make s**t up lol.

Kyle was referencing the 2017 draft. Not 2018. At that point they committed to Jimmy. Like most of us did. Josh also got drafted before we were picking.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/49ers-tried-to-trade-for-aaron-rodgers-in-2021-how-qb-reacted-to-possibly-playing-for-kyle-shanahan/amp/

https://sports.yahoo.com/kyle-shanahan-reveals-how-49-ers-lost-out-on-trading-for-matthew-stafford-005709111.html#:~:text=San%20Francisco%2049ers%20head%20coach,on%20the%20Flying%20Coach%20podcast.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/kyle-shanahan-admits-he-wanted-tom-brady-as-49ers-starting-quarterback-in-2023-i-was-serious-about-it/amp/

It's always much easier to call every single person a liar when the truth doesn't fit your narrative. Truth is no one is buying you BS. If you want to just say hey in my opinion that's fine BECAUSE that's all it is. I can say imo the world is flat and I can call everyone a liar all the same.

Oh look, you're still not getting the point.

The point is if Kyle liked Josh Allen so much in 2017, he would not have agreed to trade for Jimmy, nor would he have agreed to pay Jimmy that much money after a 5 game sample. He would have simply kept on losing and taken Josh Allen in the 2018 draft.

Alas, he didn't do that, because he didn't like Allen that much. He didn't like the 2018 draft class at all. His actions speak for him.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Every QB is a game manager. That's not a bad word. When s**t hits the fan and you need to go make plays when it matters…that separates the system guys and who's elite.

No, "game manager" has a specific meaning that has been b*****dized by clueless modern football fans.

It refers to a QB who posts low production but also low turnovers. He manages the game by not trying to do too much. This would be the exact opposite of Brock Purdy. Purdy turns the ball over more than ideal and is big on trying to lead productive offenses.

Neil O'Donnell is a game manager. Jeff Garcia on the Bucs is a game manager. Alex Smith in 2011 is a game manager. Trent Dilfer on the 2000 Ravens was trying to be a game manager.

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
Oh look, you're still not getting the point.

The point is if Kyle liked Josh Allen so much in 2017, he would not have agreed to trade for Jimmy, nor would he have agreed to pay Jimmy that much money after a 5 game sample. He would have simply kept on losing and taken Josh Allen in the 2018 draft.

Alas, he didn't do that, because he didn't like Allen that much. He didn't like the 2018 draft class at all. His actions speak for him.

Only that's not how it works. My god why the thick headed nonsense.

he literally said multiple times that he liked Allen. He even compared Lance to Allen. You know the guy HE traded for.

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
No, "game manager" has a specific meaning that has been b*****dized by clueless modern football fans.

It refers to a QB who posts low production but also low turnovers. He manages the game by not trying to do too much. This would be the exact opposite of Brock Purdy. Purdy turns the ball over more than ideal and is big on trying to lead productive offenses.

Neil O'Donnell is a game manager. Jeff Garcia on the Bucs is a game manager. Alex Smith in 2011 is a game manager. Trent Dilfer on the 2000 Ravens was trying to be a game manager.

Every good NFL QB has to be a game manager at some point. It's part of the f**king job, They have to run the system that they are given, that's all part of "managing" the game. Derp.

what separates the Alex smiths from the Josh Allen's is one guy can manage the game AND can make s**t happen out of structure. They can take over the 4th QR and win it.

man you're a horrible expert.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Only that's not how it works. My god why the thick headed nonsense.

he literally said multiple times that he liked Allen. He even compared Lance to Allen. You know the guy HE traded for.

It's such a bad argument on so many fronts. Why would an interest in Josh Allen, or any other prospect, prevent Kyle and CO. from exploring an available option in the season prior to their availability.

The things you'd have to believe to accept FootballNovice's view of this situation are so absurd.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
It's such a bad argument on so many fronts. Why would an interest in Josh Allen, or any other prospect, prevent Kyle and CO. from exploring an available option in the season prior to their availability.

The things you'd have to believe to accept FootballNovice's view of this situation are so absurd.

It's such a reach based off narrative pushing. There's zero guarantees that they couldn't have drafted Allen next yr or that he gets hurt prior.

love the rebuttal, basically calling Kyle a liar because FootballNovice said so.

Thoughts?

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
It's such a bad argument on so many fronts. Why would an interest in Josh Allen, or any other prospect, prevent Kyle and CO. from exploring an available option in the season prior to their availability.

The things you'd have to believe to accept FootballNovice's view of this situation are so absurd.

Uh....because you know you're going to have a chance to pick this guy you like so much?

Imagine you're on track to pick Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck at the top of the draft, and you're 0-8. Do you think the Colts would have been like, "durr hurr, man, Manning/Luck are amazing prospects...I wish they had come out the previous season...but let's trade a 2nd round pick for the team's backup QB and then start him, and if he performs well in a 5 game sample, make him the highest paid QB in football and then draft later in the draft instead. Maybe we'll take a right tackle downgrade to replace our very good current right tackle because we don't want to pay our current right tackle."

Nobody f**king does that. No bottom feeding, rebuilding team would ever trade a high pick for another team's backup QB and start him during a season where they're winless halfway through when they LOVE a QB in the upcoming draft.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Every good NFL QB has to be a game manager at some point. It's part of the f**king job, They have to run the system that they are given, that's all part of "managing" the game. Derp.

what separates the Alex smiths from the Josh Allen's is one guy can manage the game AND can make s**t happen out of structure. They can take over the 4th QR and win it.

man you're a horrible expert.

That's not what the term means. Just because you want to redefine it, because you're new to football, doesn't make it mean something else.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
It's such a reach based off narrative pushing. There's zero guarantees that they couldn't have drafted Allen next yr or that he gets hurt prior.

love the rebuttal, basically calling Kyle a liar because FootballNovice said so.

It's the pretzel logic for me.

The guy makes the argument that Kyle wouldn't have traded for Jimmy G, effectively lose on purpose, all in an effort to land a draft prospect (if he were to have liked one).

Then he simultaneously makes the argument that Kyle was willing to be convinced to take Lance instead Jones in a matter of weeks.

On one hand he wants you to believe Kyle is so stringent he wouldn't dare veer off a plan, and on the other he wants you to believe the opposite.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Every QB is a game manager. That's not a bad word. When s**t hits the fan and you need to go make plays when it matters…that separates the system guys and who's elite.

To Brocks credit he did that in last years playoffs against Green Bay and Detroit.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Only that's not how it works. My god why the thick headed nonsense.

he literally said multiple times that he liked Allen. He even compared Lance to Allen. You know the guy HE traded for.

AFTER ALLEN HAD BECOME SUCCESSFUL.

Yeah, he compared Lance to Allen AFTER ALLEN HAD BECOME SUCCESSFUL.

Have you ever heard Kyle admit he DIDN'T like a prospect who is now considered successful? Gee, I wonder why not.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Thoughts?

"When all is going well, Purdy is a high-level executor and ball distributor. That's what Brock Purdy is. There's nothing wrong with that, but if people think he's more, he's not that. That's what he is."

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Agree with most except the if all is going well part. He's shown the ability to make plays when things go wrong, and he had a really good season with a subpar OL

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
AFTER ALLEN HAD BECOME SUCCESSFUL.

Yeah, he compared Lance to Allen AFTER ALLEN HAD BECOME SUCCESSFUL.

Have you ever heard Kyle admit he DIDN'T like a prospect who is now considered successful? Gee, I wonder why not.

He's admitted he liked a prospect that was a dismal failure, Trey Lance. Yet you are arguing he never liked him in the first place.