QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
In the process of "finding that starter," you are blowing your chance to take a guy you think is a great prospect to be a starter. He must have thought the guy he was trading for was a better prospect than the prospect he supposedly liked so much in order for that to make sense.

The draft trade was a response to Kyle's disgust with Jimmy, not because he was particularly crazy about Mac Jones. He just hated Jimmy that much, saw that they were positioned to get "A" quarterback in that class if they were willing to give up enough picks, and made the move, with Jones as his initial target because he matched what he was looking for more than the others. Had he actually LOVED Jones as a prospect, Lynch would not have been able to convince him. But Lynch was able to appeal to the "you could make him your puppet QB, you genius, because he's so raw" argument.

It's almost as if you recognize that a coach might believe there's more than one person who can fill a job.

Just not when it's inconvenient to an argument you want to make, no matter how many readily available facts and pieces of evidence show otherwise.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Not at all. How do you pretend to be an expert, lol. There was no guarantee Jimmy plays well, they win games, or that they couldn't trade up a handful of slots to get the guy they wanted if they did. They did exactly this, at a crazy f**king cost, not much later.

It was simply an audition, and given the positional importance, not an expensive one.

Now you're just being disingenuous.

You can't be sure any teams above you are going to budge. They may also want QB prospects, and in that case, you're not getting their pick.

Simply put, no team that loves a draft class as much as NYNiner85 pretends Kyle loved the 2018 class would ever make a move like this. Rebuilding teams don't just trade a 2nd round pick to take a flyer on a team's backup QB if they love the upcoming QB class.

Imagine the 2011 Colts doing this. You can't.

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
Now you're just being disingenuous.

You can't be sure any teams above you are going to budge. They may also want QB prospects, and in that case, you're not getting their pick.

Simply put, no team that loves a draft class as much as NYNiner85 pretends Kyle loved the 2018 class would ever make a move like this. Rebuilding teams don't just trade a 2nd round pick to take a flyer on a team's backup QB if they love the upcoming QB class.

Imagine the 2011 Colts doing this. You can't.

Again this potential issue only works on the basis that they are not trying to win games in 2017… when every piece of evidence indicates otherwise, including trading for and playing Jimmy G.

You can't guarantee where you land in a draft, unless you lose on purpose. You can't guarantee you can make a trade with a team ahead of you. You can't guarantee the prospect you like will be good. That's precisely why it's good management to use any available avenue to try and fill the most important position on the team, including making a trade you didn't plan for when it becomes available. Which is exactly what they did. It says positively nothing about how much they liked the prospects in the 2018 draft. What it does say is they thought Jimmy could be the answer.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Thoughts?

"When all is going well, Purdy is a high-level executor and ball distributor. That's what Brock Purdy is. There's nothing wrong with that, but if people think he's more, he's not that. That's what he is."

- @gregcosell on @WillardAndDibs.

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— 95.7 The Game (@957thegame) January 9, 2025

Greg Cosell is one of the few guys I respect when it comes to judging QB's.......and he is fairly accurate when it comes to Purdy.

There is nothing wrong with Cosell's analysis. Brock is exactly what he said he is, a high-level ball distributor that fits this system as long as he plays within that. He's not a top 5, unicorn guy that can do it all like Allen or Jackson. Most QB's in the NFL aren't, and that's okay.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

It's almost as if you recognize that a coach might believe there's more than one person who can fill a job.

Just not when it's inconvenient to an argument you want to make, no matter how many readily available facts and pieces of evidence show otherwise.

There isn't a better option than Purdy.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
There isn't a better option than Purdy.

I'm not sure what that has to do with the conversation, but ok.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Thoughts?

"When all is going well, Purdy is a high-level executor and ball distributor. That's what Brock Purdy is. There's nothing wrong with that, but if people think he's more, he's not that. That's what he is."

- @gregcosell on @WillardAndDibs.

🎧 https://t.co/YMnKnNjeyD pic.twitter.com/NTNSP6elye

— 95.7 The Game (@957thegame) January 9, 2025

Greg Cosell is one of the few guys I respect when it comes to judging QB's.......and he is fairly accurate when it comes to Purdy.

I like Purdy, but I'm not sure he's a $50 million a year player. The problem, as always, will reside with his agent, whose sole purpose in life is to make sure his client gets the most money possible and that he - the agent - gets the credit for it. Purdy could say, get me $35 million a year, guaranteed for five years, plus incentives and walk away with $140 Million plus, which ought to be enough money for anyone. But of course, it won't be. So much of this salary business is about ego. Well, if so and so is getting that then I deserve to get this. I don't see Aiyuk as a $28 million a year receiver, or whatever it is he's getting. And while that certainly worked out for him, I don't think the team will end up benefitting much from it. Time will tell though, I guess. He could surprise me. The other problem is that the market is what it is, and Brock has shown he's probably better than any other QB they've had under Shanahan. So, I imagine he'll get paid.

LOL at pages of Jimmy posts. I think he has his own thread.

Originally posted by 49ers81:
I like Purdy, but I'm not sure he's a $50 million a year player. The problem, as always, will reside with his agent, whose sole purpose in life is to make sure his client gets the most money possible and that he - the agent - gets the credit for it. Purdy could say, get me $35 million a year, guaranteed for five years, plus incentives and walk away with $140 Million plus, which ought to be enough money for anyone. But of course, it won't be. So much of this salary business is about ego. Well, if so and so is getting that then I deserve to get this. I don't see Aiyuk as a $28 million a year receiver, or whatever it is he's getting. And while that certainly worked out for him, I don't think the team will end up benefitting much from it. Time will tell though, I guess. He could surprise me. The other problem is that the market is what it is, and Brock has shown he's probably better than any other QB they've had under Shanahan. So, I imagine he'll get paid.

The problem, in terms of the numbers, is we don't really get to see what the market thinks of Purdy and are negotiating against ourselves. It's not necessarily unique to this situation either.

At least with Aiyuk there were trades in place that showed other teams were willing to meet his asking price, or close to it. It's not out of the realm of possibility this can happen with Purdy… it just depends on whether or not there's a stalemate to facilitate it.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

There isn't a better option than Purdy.

I'm not sure what that has to do with the conversation, but ok.

Purdy has nothing to do with this conversation?

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

The problem, in terms of the numbers, is we don't really get to see what the market thinks of Purdy and are negotiating against ourselves. It's not necessarily unique to this situation either.

At least with Aiyuk there were trades in place that showed other teams were willing to meet his asking price, or close to it. It's not out of the realm of possibility this can happen with Purdy… it just depends on whether or not there's a stalemate to facilitate it.

If Lynch and Paraag can't figure out the right market rate for him they suck.

I think they can figure it out. No one knows Purdy or the market better than them.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Purdy has nothing to do with this conversation?

A tangential conversation popped up around Kyle's preferences in a QB… initially sparked by debates around Purdy's extension.

You're not new to message boards. Tangential conversations happen in threads.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
If Lynch and Paraag can't figure out the right market rate for him they suck.

I think they can figure it out. No one knows Purdy or the market better than them.

Yea, that would be one side of the negotiation. What if they determine that his market rate is lower than what Purdy and his agent ask for? That's the debate, and what opinions like Simms' recent one are centered around.

Originally posted by swoosh6996:
There is nothing wrong with Cosell's analysis. Brock is exactly what he said he is, a high-level ball distributor that fits this system as long as he plays within that. He's not a top 5, unicorn guy that can do it all like Allen or Jackson. Most QB's in the NFL aren't, and that's okay.

Pretty much....but there is a contingent of people on this board who think otherwise....think that he is 'elite.'

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

A tangential conversation popped up around Kyle's preferences in a QB… initially sparked by debates around Purdy's extension.

You're not new to message boards. Tangential conversations happen in threads.

It all is about Purdy really though if we are talking about QBs.

Purdy is the only good option.