QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

What made Brock Purdy's #1 QBR season so special was that he did it behind an O-line that scored below average across pass protection metrics. Imagine if the 49ers had Philadelphia's O-line in front of him pic.twitter.com/m80yP8DT7z

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) January 12, 2025

Yeah, this season Brock had minimal help essentially across the board.
- run game was super inconsistent and didn't have a consistent pass catching threat. That makes things way more difficult and predictable

- pass pro was average on its best days but Brendel was the worst center in pro football. Mckivitz is super average on his best days

- hold outs didn't do the team any favors. Trent was rusty and Aiyuk was super rusty, he sucked the first month of the season.

- injuries mounted up pretty bad this year, again.

Brock needs more help than just Jennings and Kittle every game, especially when they're injured. This isn't even factoring in the players getting shot or their children passing away (horrific thing to happen).

just a s**t show of a season from start to finish. We won one more game than Carolina… just pathetic

Yep I agree a sh it show for a season. Beyond anyones control.

Watching the playoffs and I got to say we are going the ok at qb. Love sucks. Hurts ain't a qb.

Originally posted by pdc20:
He's gonna be paid that's for sure. If the Niners don't pay him, another team will.

When "will" another team pay him if the 49ers don't, though?

2025 -- Under Contract
2026 -- Potential Franchise Tag
2027 -- Potential Franchise Tag #2
2028 -- Potential F.A.

Recent Franchise Tag Cap Hits for QBs:
2023 -- $32.4M
2024 -- $38.3M

It is increasing, but I see no current "fear factor" where we're forced to take additional risk early. We hold all the cards (see above), and no one here has any idea what teams would be willing to pay Purdy in 2028 when we'd be unable to retain him.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by pdc20:
He's gonna be paid that's for sure. If the Niners don't pay him, another team will.

When "will" another team pay him if the 49ers don't, though?

2025 -- Under Contract
2026 -- Potential Franchise Tag
2027 -- Potential Franchise Tag #2
2028 -- Potential F.A.

Recent Franchise Tag Cap Hits for QBs:
2023 -- $32.4M
2024 -- $38.3M

It is increasing, but I see no current "fear factor" where we're forced to take additional risk early. We hold all the cards (see above), and no one here has any idea what teams would be willing to pay Purdy in 2028 when we'd be unable to retain him.

Do you think Brock would play next season without a new contract and risk injury then he would get nothing? Do you think the 49ers would ask him to do so? I can't remember them doing any other player that way under this ownership. That doesn't mean they haven't I just can't remember. I'm old it happens.

Originally posted by bud49:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by bud49:
When all is said and done there will be some that will be upset with the deal either way it goes. I think you pay the man and go on, he's done enough to merrit a 45 to 50 million or so contract. JMO

How much cap space a year, for several years in the future, does he merit right now, though? That is what needs to be figured out.

All the leverage is on the 49ers side. The potential for other teams breaking down the door for Purdy could be a big, big factor -- IF he was due for free agency. But he's not. So the panic button can be put away. We aren't a charity either (for those saying he's earned the right to handicap our team's future due to unfavorable CBA rules he's had to deal with). We aren't doing this "football thing" to make up for the NFL's wrongs.

And as fans with regards to these potential deals,...our concern should really be cap hit money,...cause this is the main number that affects other deals that are to be made for years.

I'm sure Parag and Jed can figure those numbers out, better than you or me.

Uhmm....you got it reversed here. Them figuring the numbers out - whenever they can advantageously do so - has been my point the entire time.

You said he merits $45-50M "RIGHT NOW." Those numbers you're mentioning would be for Parag and Jed to figure out. Me as a fan,...it makes more sense discuss cap hit numbers, since all teams have to follow the same cap rules.

Adding context to "empty numbers" someone mentions actually is what we'd want on a discussion board.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by bud49:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by bud49:
When all is said and done there will be some that will be upset with the deal either way it goes. I think you pay the man and go on, he's done enough to merrit a 45 to 50 million or so contract. JMO

How much cap space a year, for several years in the future, does he merit right now, though? That is what needs to be figured out.

All the leverage is on the 49ers side. The potential for other teams breaking down the door for Purdy could be a big, big factor -- IF he was due for free agency. But he's not. So the panic button can be put away. We aren't a charity either (for those saying he's earned the right to handicap our team's future due to unfavorable CBA rules he's had to deal with). We aren't doing this "football thing" to make up for the NFL's wrongs.

And as fans with regards to these potential deals,...our concern should really be cap hit money,...cause this is the main number that affects other deals that are to be made for years.

I'm sure Parag and Jed can figure those numbers out, better than you or me.

Uhmm....you got it reversed here. Them figuring the numbers out - whenever they can advantageously do so - has been my point the entire time.

You said he merits $45-50M "RIGHT NOW." Those numbers you're mentioning would be for Parag and Jed to figure out. Me as a fan,...it makes more sense discuss cap hit numbers, since all teams have to follow the same cap rules.

Adding context to "empty numbers" someone mentions actually is what we'd want on a discussion board.

I can't remember does Guaranteed money go against the CAP? Just looked it up it does.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

What made Brock Purdy's #1 QBR season so special was that he did it behind an O-line that scored below average across pass protection metrics. Imagine if the 49ers had Philadelphia's O-line in front of him pic.twitter.com/m80yP8DT7z

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) January 12, 2025

Yeah, this season Brock had minimal help essentially across the board.
- run game was super inconsistent and didn't have a consistent pass catching threat. That makes things way more difficult and predictable

- pass pro was average on its best days but Brendel was the worst center in pro football. Mckivitz is super average on his best days

- hold outs didn't do the team any favors. Trent was rusty and Aiyuk was super rusty, he sucked the first month of the season.

- injuries mounted up pretty bad this year, again.

Brock needs more help than just Jennings and Kittle every game, especially when they're injured. This isn't even factoring in the players getting shot or their children passing away (horrific thing to happen).

just a s**t show of a season from start to finish. We won one more game than Carolina… just pathetic

Deebo Samuels, Juszczyk, Isaac Guerendo, Jordan Mason. Both of the latter averaged over 5ypc this year. I think we're stretching things out pretty far if we're going to try to say he's had no talent or help on his side.

I think we CAN say that he didnt have the super-advantages of the year b4 with Aiyuk and the Offensive POTY added to the cast. Funny how Lombardi makes no mention of them for that 2023 QBR?

We will see what develops with Brock, but great players don't need all of these excuses. If we acknowledge he's a "solid" player,...then I'm on your side of how we need to get our solid player more help next year.

Hopefully the injury situation improves with those 2 star players.

Purdy>>>Love

Don't @ me.

Originally posted by bud49:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by pdc20:
He's gonna be paid that's for sure. If the Niners don't pay him, another team will.

When "will" another team pay him if the 49ers don't, though?

2025 -- Under Contract
2026 -- Potential Franchise Tag
2027 -- Potential Franchise Tag #2
2028 -- Potential F.A.

Recent Franchise Tag Cap Hits for QBs:
2023 -- $32.4M
2024 -- $38.3M

It is increasing, but I see no current "fear factor" where we're forced to take additional risk early. We hold all the cards (see above), and no one here has any idea what teams would be willing to pay Purdy in 2028 when we'd be unable to retain him.

Do you think Brock would play next season without a new contract and risk injury then he would get nothing?

He's under contract. If he doesn't play next year, that small contract transfers from 2025 to 2026, and he's in the same predicament.

His only card - partly - is pissing off the fanbase at the beginning of the year due to us missing his outstanding play and dealing with a bad backup. Problem is, his play wasnt outstanding and he risks his entire career if his temporary replacement starts out looking better than he did this year.

What teams would be absolutely demanding for Brock Purdy right now, forcing us to make an early move? I'd love to hear.

Originally posted by random49er:
He's under contract. If he doesn't play next year, that small contract transfers from 2025 to 2026, and he's in the same predicament.

His only card - partly - is pissing off the fanbase at the beginning of the year due to us missing his outstanding play and dealing with a bad backup. Problem is, his play wasnt outstanding and he risks his entire career if his temporary replacement starts out looking better than he did this year.

What teams would be absolutely demanding for Brock Purdy right now, forcing us to make an early move? I'd love to hear.

What you continue to not understand - because you don't understand football - is that it's not about whether or not Purdy would play next year. It's the season after that is the problem.

You can tag him, yes, but then he could hold out and demand a trade. Then he DOES have a market, and then you f**ked up because of this dated notion that supporting cast matters that much. Supporting cast on this team is nothing but a bunch of future Injured Reserve members who don't make nearly as big an impact as you believe.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Purdy>>>Love

Don't @ me.

Purdy>>>>>>>>>>>Hurts

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
You can tag him, yes, but then he could hold out and demand a trade.

Trade to who?

Originally posted by random49er:
Trade to who?

To interested teams should he return to 2023 form.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Purdy>>>Love

Don't @ me.

Purdy>>>>>>>>>>>Hurts

All the above.

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:

Originally posted by random49er:
Trade to who?

To interested teams should he return to 2023 form.

What teams would be interested? What teams do you suppose are interested in giving away alot of capital for him right now?

I dont think we're mortgaging the future of the team for phantom teams we cant even identify as a threat.

And this "revelation" that he can hold out doesn't move the 2028 FA year forward even one bit, as he could still be franchised in 2027, whether he played in 2026 or not.

So these other teams aren't even a threat until 2028 if that's what we wanna do.