QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Furlow:
There were quite a few QB's who were better than Montana and Brady during the regular season, but what separated them was playing great ball in the playoffs and Super Bowl. Purdy has done that and shown that when the lights get bright, he doesn't shrink. Lamar has not. Neither have Stroud, Love, Herbert, Darnold or any of these other QB's who some of you continue to say you'd take over Purdy. But they are tall and throw it far, and some of you are strangely enamored with that.

There were not many QB's that were better than Brady and Montana in the regular season, lol. Brady has some of the greatest seasons of all time in particular.

One commonality among them, besides being great QBs, is they were coached by two GOAT tier HCs and had elite defenses year after year. They were great QBs in great situations.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
My point is the same as it was yesterday. If you think this was a top 5 offense, you're nuts. Yards mean very little, especially when you are one of the worst teams in the NFL at converting those yards into points (like we were).

The team was 4th in Total Offense, thanks to the passing game. I think yards are an good measure of an offense.
The rushing game was pretty average while the passing game was 4th.
The team was an average scoring team for sure and that hurt the team, the team just wasn't great in the Red Zone.

It just doesn't seem all that bad considering we got Nadal from McCaffery, Aiyuk and Williams.

I am optimistic.

Good post. We moved the ball with EASE all season, and it was the passing game doing it. Injuries and lack of personnel to beat man coverage killed us in the red zone. I'd also imagine that Kyle having to help Sorenson so much with the defense affected his offensive play calling as well. So getting an established DC who he can fully give the reigns to, will help the offense a ton.

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
There is still a lot of uncertainty with Brock. It's going to take more time to see what happens.

Far more uncertainty going in a different direction

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Furlow:
There were quite a few QB's who were better than Montana and Brady during the regular season, but what separated them was playing great ball in the playoffs and Super Bowl. Purdy has done that and shown that when the lights get bright, he doesn't shrink. Lamar has not. Neither have Stroud, Love, Herbert, Darnold or any of these other QB's who some of you continue to say you'd take over Purdy. But they are tall and throw it far, and some of you are strangely enamored with that.

There were not many QB's that were better than Brady and Montana in the regular season, lol. Brady has some of the greatest seasons of all time in particular.

One commonality among them, besides being great QBs, is they were coached by two GOAT tier HCs and had elite defenses year after year. They were great QBs in great situations.

First of all, I said "quite a few," and not "many." And Brady had one all-time great season. In his 23 year career he led the league in yards 4 times and TD's 5 times. Montana never led the league in yards and led the league in TD's twice. They each led the league in QB rating twice.

Also, no one ever accused Montana or Brady of being "elite" in terms of physical skillset. In fact both were criticized for being "system QB's" who had to "rely on their weapons" in order to be great. These are the exact same arguments that we're hearing about Purdy.

Am I saying Purdy is Montana or Brady? Of course not. What I am saying though is that he has shown similar decision making, toughness, and ability to play well under the pressure of the playoffs and Super Bowl. THAT is what it takes to win championships.

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Luckily, the option of the franchise tag can buy you time. 🤷🏾‍♂

But Kyle has always been about optics... for example he never likes the idea of the backup QB making more than the starting QB. Which is why he finally accepted Jimmy G back on the team if he took a contract paying him less than the 2nd year QB, Trey Lance.

So Kyle is gonna be all in for overpaying Brock on a long contract...instead of franchise tagging him (even though this would be the best option for the team). At least until Brock bounces back next season. Then it would be worth *overpaying* for him.

Dude, no it isnt. Why people keep saying this is beyond me. It is demonstrating you have no clue what you are talking about.

Originally posted by Furlow:
First of all, I said "quite a few," and not "many." And Brady had one all-time great season. In his 23 year career he led the league in yards 4 times and TD's 5 times. Montana never led the league in yards and led the league in TD's twice. They each led the league in QB rating twice.

Also, no one ever accused Montana or Brady of being "elite" in terms of physical skillset. In fact both were criticized for being "system QB's" who had to "rely on their weapons" in order to be great. These are the exact same arguments that we're hearing about Purdy.

Am I saying Purdy is Montana or Brady? Of course not. What I am saying though is that he has shown similar decision making, toughness, and ability to play well under the pressure of the playoffs and Super Bowl. THAT is what it takes to win championships.

There weren't quite a few my man, and saying Brady had only one all time great season is absurd. He prob had 5. 2007, 2010, 2016, 2020, 2021. Coming from a person who really likes to cite numbers, this isn't really a position you can defend.

You're rewriting history quite a bit here to make a point about Purdy that is nowhere close to applying yet.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i am coming to realize a lot of ppl probably just watch 49er football. so when you get into takes about lamar jackson they say stuff like, 'oh him.. he sucks, never done anything in playoffs'. and so forth. so they go around thinking brock is better than lamar.

There were quite a few QB's who were better than Montana and Brady during the regular season, but what separated them was playing great ball in the playoffs and Super Bowl. Purdy has done that and shown that when the lights get bright, he doesn't shrink. Lamar has not. Neither have Stroud, Love, Herbert, Darnold or any of these other QB's who some of you continue to say you'd take over Purdy. But they are tall and throw it far, and some of you are strangely enamored with that.

i just appreciate good QB play around the league. QB is probably one of the hardest jobs at the planet. it's both physical and mental at world class levels of difficulty and you have to execute in seconds in front of the nation while 6'5 250-300+lb men who run 4.5 are trying to take your head off. i feel no need to say brock is QB1 in the NFL, just like i feel no need to say moody is Kicker1 or j brown is DB1 or any of it. if we have best in nfl at anything it may just be fred warner.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

How about at the end of 2023, would most have taken Brock or Herbert?
I am acting like he put elie numbers in 2023. It could be his best season or his 5th best.

Herbert.

Agree to disagree.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
How about at the end of 2023, would most have taken Brock or Herbert?
I am acting like he put elie numbers in 2023. It could be his best season or his 5th best.

Herbert.

How about Herbert's first 3 yrs vs Brock's 1st 3 yrs?

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Agree to disagree.

I don't agree to disagree that the majority opinion would take Purdy.

I will agree to disagree between you and me though. If Herbert were available to us, Brock would be on the first thing smoking out of here.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Agree to disagree.

I don't agree to disagree that the majority opinion would take Purdy.

I will agree to disagree between you and me though. If Herbert were available to us, Brock would be on the first thing smoking out of here.

LOL...It really doesn't matter if you agree to disagree or not. We disagree here.

Originally posted by 49ers808:
lol you know that's not the way it works here. Either Brock is elite, worth $60 mil per, and better than everyone or you are a hater and hate him. And it's all the same guys that were doing and saying the same s**t about Jimmy before Brock. Rinse and repeat

Pretty much. The cycle continues.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
LOL...It really doesn't matter if you agree to disagree or not. We disagree here.

Cool. I didn't suggest it, lol.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Yup. all he wants to hear is brock is better than burrow and some combination of Montana, Young, Manning and Brady. anything else and you are a 'hater'. it's only natural around contract time to assess what this guy can do well and what this guy is weak at. that's what the club should be doing when assessing his value.

For people who are objective about their assessments sure. Not for people who have changed their whole stance on how they rate a QB because it's Brock and not Jimmy.

This x 1000000

Why do people keep saying purdy is clutch?? Lol, he failed every time we needed him to help us in a final drive this year aside from tb game. I'll give him credit for games in last years playoffs but he's extremely unclutch late in games overall. If he was clutch we would've made the playoffs (had several opportunities to get us W's on final drive)