QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Yes. So Brock is at least as good as Herbert if not better imo. I would say the elite/generational are Mahomes, Allen, Lamar, Burrow. After I would say Brock is in the conversation with anyone else.

I know we are splitting hairs here, but I feel like the word generational is so overused. You cant be generational (aka once in a generation), if you just named 4 players from the same generation.

All four you named are elite, top of the league QBs currently. The only one of the 4 I would argue is generational is Mahomes.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i am coming to realize a lot of ppl probably just watch 49er football. so when you get into takes about lamar jackson they say stuff like, 'oh him.. he sucks, never done anything in playoffs'. and so forth. so they go around thinking brock is better than lamar.

So ironic coming from you.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I know we are splitting hairs here, but I feel like the word generational is so overused. You cant be generational (aka once in a generation), if you just named 4 players from the same generation.

All four you named are elite, top of the league QBs currently. The only one of the 4 I would argue is generational is Mahomes.

no doubt. he's today's john elway

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
They aren't objective. Saying Brock is good isn't enough for me to ignore the rest

You loved Trey (who sucked) and it showed

You don't like Brock (who's good) and it shows

You won't convince me otherwise

Show me where I said I love Lance? Show me right now or cut with the exaggerations. I actually wanted Fields, but mostly didn't want McCorkle. I liked Lance's potential and wanted to see him actually play football. Not a couple meaningless games with injuries involved.

SHOW ME where I said I don't like Brock. You can't because I never said it or insinuated it. You're trying so hard to gaslight because you can't have a normal conversion…you're nothing more than an emotional fan who gets butt hurt if somebody doesn't think Brock is some rock star elite QB. Same s**t with Jimmy. Get a f**king grip man.

nobodies wants to talk to people that live in absolutes

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49ers808:
lol you know that's not the way it works here. Either Brock is elite, worth $60 mil per, and better than everyone or you are a hater and hate him. And it's all the same guys that were doing and saying the same s**t about Jimmy before Brock. Rinse and repeat

Pretty much. The cycle continues.

I totally disagree. There are plenty of people who were out on Jimmy early (like myself), who are the opposite on Brock.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

They aren't objective. Saying Brock is good isn't enough for me to ignore the rest

You loved Trey (who sucked) and it showed

You don't like Brock (who's good) and it shows

You won't convince me otherwise

Show me where I said I love Lance? Show me right now or cut with the exaggerations. I actually wanted Fields, but mostly didn't want McCorkle. I liked Lance's potential and wanted to see him actually play football. Not a couple meaningless games with injuries involved.

SHOW ME where I said I don't like Brock. You can't because I never said it or insinuated it. You're trying so hard to gaslight because you can't have a normal conversion…you're nothing more than an emotional fan who gets butt hurt if somebody doesn't think Brock is some rock star elite QB. Same s**t with Jimmy. Get a f**king grip man.

nobodies wants to talk to people that live in absolutes

Might not be hate/love, but you do play favorites and it isn't based on who's better at football. It's just based on who you like/dislike

Originally posted by frenchmov:
Why do people keep saying purdy is clutch?? Lol, he failed every time we needed him to help us in a final drive this year aside from tb game. I'll give him credit for games in last years playoffs but he's extremely unclutch late in games overall. If he was clutch we would've made the playoffs (had several opportunities to get us W's on final drive)

I wonder what the difference between the playoffs last year and the games this year. Hmmmm....

Purdy has a bad ability for misreading safeties when they drop back.

How many times does he hit a safety when he is trying to stretch the field in the last quarter.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I know we are splitting hairs here, but I feel like the word generational is so overused. You cant be generational (aka once in a generation), if you just named 4 players from the same generation.

All four you named are elite, top of the league QBs currently. The only one of the 4 I would argue is generational is Mahomes.

no doubt. he's today's john elway

Grow up.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Furlow:
First of all, I said "quite a few," and not "many." And Brady had one all-time great season. In his 23 year career he led the league in yards 4 times and TD's 5 times. Montana never led the league in yards and led the league in TD's twice. They each led the league in QB rating twice.

Also, no one ever accused Montana or Brady of being "elite" in terms of physical skillset. In fact both were criticized for being "system QB's" who had to "rely on their weapons" in order to be great. These are the exact same arguments that we're hearing about Purdy.

Am I saying Purdy is Montana or Brady? Of course not. What I am saying though is that he has shown similar decision making, toughness, and ability to play well under the pressure of the playoffs and Super Bowl. THAT is what it takes to win championships.

There weren't quite a few my man, and saying Brady had only one all time great season is absurd. He prob had 5. 2007, 2010, 2016, 2020, 2021. Coming from a person who really likes to cite numbers, this isn't really a position you can defend.

You're rewriting history quite a bit here to make a point about Purdy that is nowhere close to applying yet.

I'll give you 2021 and MAYBE 2010 but that's pushing it. But we're talking about a 23 year career with two great coaches, one of which is a HOF'er. Let's not act like Brady was carrying bad teams.

My point (which you continue to ignore and are now not quoting per usual) is that neither Brady nor Montana were ever viewed as elite talents. They were minimized as system QB's for much of their careers (some people still say this nonsense). There are simply a lot of uneducated fans who fall in love with physical attributes, when historically we have seen that is not the most important aspect of being a championship winning QB in the NFL.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I know we are splitting hairs here, but I feel like the word generational is so overused. You cant be generational (aka once in a generation), if you just named 4 players from the same generation.

All four you named are elite, top of the league QBs currently. The only one of the 4 I would argue is generational is Mahomes.

no doubt. he's today's john elway

Grow up.

i'm just having fun here

Originally posted by frenchmov:
Why do people keep saying purdy is clutch?? Lol, he failed every time we needed him to help us in a final drive this year aside from tb game. I'll give him credit for games in last years playoffs but he's extremely unclutch late in games overall. If he was clutch we would've made the playoffs (had several opportunities to get us W's on final drive)

So you're ignoring what he did in the playoffs and focusing on a season where pretty much everyone died? And he still had the offense in position to win several more games and then Mason fumbles, Moody misses kicks...etc.

i don't think he's very clutch cuz when the team is down and the run game is out the window, the whole O is not where it wants to be. that's system related. we are built entirely around the run game.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i don't think he's very clutch cuz when the team is down and the run game is out the window, the whole O is not where it wants to be. that's system related. we are built entirely around the run game.

Purdy is not clutch or the system isn't built for straight up drop back passing? To me it's the latter, and it's something Kyle needs to adjust to via the draft and free agency. Quit worrying so much about run blocking ability from WR's and having guys who can play multiple positions (like fat Deebo). Let's get some route runners/pass catchers in here so that we are versatile enough for drop back passing (even when the defense is expecting it).

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I totally disagree. There are plenty of people who were out on Jimmy early (like myself), who are the opposite on Brock.

The vast majority are the same folks though. I'm not on the same page as I was with Jimmy either. I've said over and over Brock is better. I don't think he's some elite level QB though. He's a good young QB and I got no problem with him being the guy. I do think he will need more around him to be successful and that gets harder when he's making elite cash