QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
$59m each year for 4 years.

Kinda sums Purdy up.

He isn't in the top 8 QBs in the league.

Where do you have him?

he's worth 5 years 200m with outs on the deal
that's probably more than the market would pay him, let's not get in a bidding war with ourselves.
he's mid tier, he's done impressive stuff here

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
You dont need to keep repeating this. Especially because almost zero people are arguing the opposite.

Unfortunately that's not true

Who is arguing Purdy is an elite QB?

I really can't wait for Brock to get paid and watch the meltdown lol

Who gives a s**t? The Niners pay their guys. And so far we have managed the cap very well. Certainly nothing catastrophic.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
But thats what the market dictates. That is what I have been trying to get people to grasp on this site. Its not up to the 49ers to chance how the NFL does things with QB contracts. If you want to say 10 QBs are totally overpaid, I wont argue. But thats the cost of doing business with a non-rookie/non-end of his career QB.

The right move for this team to make is to have Purdy as our QB. Period.

Two things:

1. The market does not dictate that we agree to a potentially bad contract.

2. It's pure speculation what Purdy would make on the open market.

This idea that we just have to pay Purdy because other teams paid their guy is simply not the case.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
$59m each year for 4 years.

Kinda sums Purdy up.

He isn't in the top 8 QBs in the league.

Where do you have him?

he's worth 5 years 200m with outs on the deal
that's probably more than the market would pay him, let's not get in a bidding war with ourselves.
he's mid tier, he's done impressive stuff here

Ok that's your opinion. If they pay him more than that, then what happens? If he plays well nobody cares. If he doesn't then everyone cares and will also use his salary as some barometer. It's kinda like Moody being drafted in the 3rd. Nobody would care if he was good etc.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

He said gms pay for tools. Where's Treys big extension?

Jordan Love is a better, more sensical, comparison.

Jordan Love or Drew Brees in his prime. Who are the gms paying?

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Ok that's your opinion. If they pay him more than that, then what happens? If he plays well nobody cares. If he doesn't then everyone cares and will also use his salary as some barometer. It's kinda like Moody being drafted in the 3rd. Nobody would care if he was good etc.

Definitely not true, lol.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Jordan Love or Drew Brees in his prime. Who are the gms paying?

Drew would be the choice, but it's not a realistic scenario. They both get paid, and not necessarily for the same reasons.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
The amount of "tools" guys that flop every single year is wild. Drafting is and always will remain an inexact science precisely because the stuff you can't measure with a stopwatch, scale or tape measure is just as crucial to a player's overall success.

The fact is GMs want all of it. If tools and upside didn't matter then Brock wouldn't have been the last pick in the draft. Jake Haener and aaron Murray would have went higher.

it's not different than any other position. Ben Boulware and Scooby Wright at LBer come to mind.

brock is the exception for sure, but acting like those lack of tangible traits don't matter is silly

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Ok that's your opinion. If they pay him more than that, then what happens? If he plays well nobody cares. If he doesn't then everyone cares and will also use his salary as some barometer. It's kinda like Moody being drafted in the 3rd. Nobody would care if he was good etc.

it's a capped sport, so the more they pay brock, the less they can land FAs or extend other guys. from a logic standpoint, no need to bid against ourselves.

overall, you are right. i'm not too worried about the deal. deals aren't fully gtd, and backloaded with outs. for example, cousins signed a 4 year deal, it lasted like 2 months and benched and he will be cut i imagine or traded. so either he plays ball or is gone. expectations will be higher when pay is higher. i think a lot of the appeal of brock is he's QB1 at 900k.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Jordan Love or Drew Brees in his prime. Who are the gms paying?

Drew would be the choice, but it's not a realistic scenario. They both get paid, and not necessarily for the same reasons.

So gms would pay for the guy with less tools. Interesting

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Ok that's your opinion. If they pay him more than that, then what happens? If he plays well nobody cares. If he doesn't then everyone cares and will also use his salary as some barometer. It's kinda like Moody being drafted in the 3rd. Nobody would care if he was good etc.

Definitely not true, lol.

Yeah you're right. Some would still b***h that he was a 3rd round pick lmao

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
So gms would pay for the guy with less tools. Interesting

You're asking in hindsight with the knowledge that Brees is a top 15 ish QB to ever play the game.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Ok that's your opinion. If they pay him more than that, then what happens? If he plays well nobody cares. If he doesn't then everyone cares and will also use his salary as some barometer. It's kinda like Moody being drafted in the 3rd. Nobody would care if he was good etc.

it's a capped sport, so the more they pay brock, the less they can land FAs or extend other guys. from a logic standpoint, no need to bid against ourselves.

overall, you are right. i'm not too worried about the deal. deals aren't fully gtd, and backloaded with outs. for example, cousins signed a 4 year deal, it lasted like 2 months and benched and he will be cut i imagine or traded. so either he plays ball or is gone. expectations will be higher when pay is higher. i think a lot of the appeal of brock is he's QB1 at 900k.

Yeah I hear you. That's why I said ditch the cap in another thread lol
Quick analysis: (imo of course lol)
bosa - Fair deal.
Kittle - Underpaid at this point imo
Warner - a little underpaid?
Deebo and ba and tw - overpaid.
hargrave - Ooof

if Brock gets 40 or 55. I get it but I think it'll be a very fair market deal where Brock makes his money but the team can maneuver.
Those last three contracts will probably hurt more.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

So gms would pay for the guy with less tools. Interesting

You're asking in hindsight with the knowledge that Brees is a top 15 ish QB to ever play the game.

Okay?