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QB Brock Purdy Thread
QB Brock Purdy Thread
Jan 14, 2025 at 11:01 PM
- ninerfaninnorcal
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Though most people would disagree, the most enlightened way to go with Brock is make him play through the final year of his contract without an extension with everyone healthy around him to make it a prove himself year.
Jan 14, 2025 at 11:15 PM
- Furlow
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Jan 14, 2025 at 11:36 PM
- RonnieLott
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Yes Brock has had one "elite" year out of 3 atm.
Are we going to sign our future to that?
Are we going to sign our future to that?
Jan 15, 2025 at 3:13 AM
- mayo49
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Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
Though most people would disagree, the most enlightened way to go with Brock is make him play through the final year of his contract without an extension with everyone healthy around him to make it a prove himself year.
That's probably the ideal scenerio, but they're probably scared he has a good year and it's going to cost them even more. Choices, choices, choices.
Jan 15, 2025 at 3:32 AM
- babarvaart
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Originally posted by RonnieLott:his first year was elite for a rookie.
Yes Brock has had one "elite" year out of 3 atm.
Are we going to sign our future to that?
He's had 1 avg year out of 3.
Jan 15, 2025 at 3:39 AM
- Cisco0623
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Technically true, but Eli beat Brady twice.
That defense beat Brady. If mario manningham or David Tyree don't make ridiculous catches he's not a SB winning QB
You can't frame history preferentially. Eli made incredible clutch plays in those SB's. It's a team sport but if Eli doesn't show up they don't win.
My biggest question is did Purdy regress becuse the entire team was simply down and hurt this year or it is Kyle. We will know next year.
Regardless of that. I think the deal will be more than most want, but probably not terrible and will still allow them to build around him. I don't think Purdy cares to be the highest paid etc, but I'm sure the NFLPA is all over him and his agent.
The issue the front office has is the fans and Purdy want a deal done fast, so imo any delay would be on them.
Jan 15, 2025 at 3:53 AM
- random49er
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Originally posted by TheWooLick:
The team was 4th in Total Offense, thanks to the passing game.
We had 2 backs that averaged over 5 ypc, and we were 14th in scoring offense....so nowhere around even the top 3rd of the league.
Average scoring and too many INTs given the limited production.
"...but but but we were 4th in Total Offense."
Shanahan has pretty much always had good run game production, regardless of the level of QB he's had. Even your boy Jimmy had Mostert running wild one year.
You may or may not have heard this B4, but the run game sets up the play action passing game. If you don't believe it, just ask Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson...
What I need to know is -- given the above -- how does our latest QB simply get all of the credit for the run game's efficiency? Simply because you like him?
Is that the full thought process?
[ Edited by random49er on Jan 15, 2025 at 4:12 AM ]
Jan 15, 2025 at 4:15 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Nah, I said he put up elite numbers in 2023.
He did.
So because he had one elite level season he should be paid like an elite level QB? Like I said who in the league is gonna drop that kind of cash for Brock? You say the market is the market….well who else is doing it?
Jan 15, 2025 at 4:29 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
See once you start throwing Dak and Herbert in his agent can make a legit case. Then there's all the other guys like Love and Trevor too. Yea he should get paid in that range
Dak and Herbert have multiple seasons putting up numbers like Brock did once. Dak was 2nd in MVP voting the yr he was up for an extension.
Lawrence put up multiple seasons of 4K 20+ TDs. They're also a horribly run organization. So let's do what they do? Should we pay Jennings $72M because they paid Christian Kirk that? Should we pay Jalen Moore $40M because they paid Walker Little that?
Jan 15, 2025 at 4:34 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Brees threw for 3500 yards with 24 TD and 15 INT in his 5th year in the NFL.
His 3rd year starting. The season before that he was an all pro and OPOY finalist.
NY didn't even reference numbers, he talked his actual abilities. Why do you do this? Lol
Dude just deflects. There isn't real football talk going on there most times
Jan 15, 2025 at 4:35 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
I don't care to read, but what you presented can be interpreted the way I said it. Like I said it's semantics, and I'm more focused on the original point anyways. Nobody is going around saying Brock is elite
We all know you don't care to read. That much is clear. If you interpret that the earth is flat, that doesn't mean the earth is flat.
Jan 15, 2025 at 4:41 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Yeah, I totally said that. I think he was. He wasn't this year.
So why should he be paid as much as some of the highest paid QBs? Because of one "elite" season? You crap on Herbert and Dak, but both those guys have had multiple seasons putting up numbers like Brock did in 2023.
And if you don't think he's elite….why the f**k are you guys all about paying him that elite level QB money? That's the whole damn debate here.
Jan 15, 2025 at 4:52 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by Furlow:
Glad I'm not the only one who sees through NY's BS.
lol yeah let's disregard a years worth of positive posts about Brock it's not my fault you can't put your emotional fandom aside and have a real talk about stuff.
Ya'll have twisted so many peoples opinions and posts you don't even know what you're arguing about in here. If someone isn't 100% on the same page with you, they're haters. Nowhere did I say he stinks or shouldn't be the starter here. You both did the same s**t with Jimmy for years. Shocking ya'll are at it again.
There's no conversation to be had for you guys. All that tells me is you can't be objective and are incapable of talking about football outside of being an emotional fan.
Jan 15, 2025 at 5:01 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by Cisco0623:
You can't frame history preferentially. Eli made incredible clutch plays in those SB's. It's a team sport but if Eli doesn't show up they don't win.
My biggest question is did Purdy regress becuse the entire team was simply down and hurt this year or it is Kyle. We will know next year.
Regardless of that. I think the deal will be more than most want, but probably not terrible and will still allow them to build around him. I don't think Purdy cares to be the highest paid etc, but I'm sure the NFLPA is all over him and his agent.
The issue the front office has is the fans and Purdy want a deal done fast, so imo any delay would be on them.
I mean if or David Tyree doesn't catch a yolo ball they don't win. Sure if Eli doesn't play decent they aren't in a position to make that play. Both things can be true imo.
Brock could have regressed all on his own all the same (not saying that's what happened). I don't think it has to be the fault of the HC or the team exclusively.
Brady was underpaid his whole career. Mahomes took a below market deal all the same. I'm sure the deal will be fluffed up much like Love's deal.
Jan 15, 2025 at 5:02 AM
- CharlieSheen
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Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by CharlieSheen:See once you start throwing Dak and Herbert in his agent can make a legit case. Then there's all the other guys like Love and Trevor too. Yea he should get paid in that range
Dak and Herbert have multiple seasons putting up numbers like Brock did once. Dak was 2nd in MVP voting the yr he was up for an extension.
Lawrence put up multiple seasons of 4K 20+ TDs. They're also a horribly run organization. So let's do what they do? Should we pay Jennings $72M because they paid Christian Kirk that? Should we pay Jalen Moore $40M because they paid Walker Little that?
Brock has 1.5 seasons of great play. Possibly saved jobs in the FO, got Aiyuk a payday he was never going to see without him, won 4 playoff games (while actually putting up good numbers and carrying us at times). He's already the franchise single season passing leader. Most games with 110+ passer rating to start a career or something like that
It's the qb position. You pay for a good one. We've gone like 30 years without a qb with the potential Brock has, it's a no brainer to pay him