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Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
I don't care to read, but what you presented can be interpreted the way I said it. Like I said it's semantics, and I'm more focused on the original point anyways. Nobody is going around saying Brock is elite

The point is whether or not we are going to pay him like he is.

^^^^This

If he isn't elite and nobody is saying that he is; then why do you guys want to pay him like he is in a bidding war with ……………….

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Yeah, I totally said that. I think he was. He wasn't this year.

So why should he be paid as much as some of the highest paid QBs? Because of one "elite" season? You crap on Herbert and Dak, but both those guys have had multiple seasons putting up numbers like Brock did in 2023.

And if you don't think he's elite….why the f**k are you guys all about paying him that elite level QB money? That's the whole damn debate here.

It's not elite money, this is just another straw man to fight against the kid you hate. Idk how many times you have to be told it's not elite money

Just because we can't say Brock is elite after 2.5 seasons of play, doesn't mean we never will be able to
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Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Yeah, I totally said that. I think he was. He wasn't this year.

So why should he be paid as much as some of the highest paid QBs? Because of one "elite" season? You crap on Herbert and Dak, but both those guys have had multiple seasons putting up numbers like Brock did in 2023.

And if you don't think he's elite….why the f**k are you guys all about paying him that elite level QB money? That's the whole damn debate here.

It's not elite money, this is just another straw man to fight against the kid you hate. Idk how many times you have to be told it's not elite money

Just because we can't say Brock is elite after 2.5 seasons of play, doesn't mean we never will be able to

It's not elite money, it's you've played good enough to be paid the going max rate money.
Originally posted by mayo49:
It's not elite money, it's you've played good enough to be paid the going max rate money.

Yea there's like 10 QBs in the 50-60 mil range lol. Idk who's up next out of Allen/Jackson/Burrow, but they are going to set the bar for elite pay. It hasn't been set in this market yet
[ Edited by CharlieSheen on Jan 15, 2025 at 5:23 AM ]
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Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by mayo49:
It's not elite money, it's you've played good enough to be paid the going max rate money.

Yea there's like 10 QBs in the 50-60 mil range lol. Idk who's up next out of Allen/Jackson/Burrow, but they are going to set the bar for elite pay. It hasn't been set in this market yet

Yeah, elite money changes every time an elite player resets it.
[ Edited by mayo49 on Jan 15, 2025 at 5:34 AM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
You can't frame history preferentially. Eli made incredible clutch plays in those SB's. It's a team sport but if Eli doesn't show up they don't win.

My biggest question is did Purdy regress becuse the entire team was simply down and hurt this year or it is Kyle. We will know next year.

Regardless of that. I think the deal will be more than most want, but probably not terrible and will still allow them to build around him. I don't think Purdy cares to be the highest paid etc, but I'm sure the NFLPA is all over him and his agent.

The issue the front office has is the fans and Purdy want a deal done fast, so imo any delay would be on them.

I mean if or David Tyree doesn't catch a yolo ball they don't win. Sure if Eli doesn't play decent they aren't in a position to make that play. Both things can be true imo.

Brock could have regressed all on his own all the same (not saying that's what happened). I don't think it has to be the fault of the HC or the team exclusively.

Brady was underpaid his whole career. Mahomes took a below market deal all the same. I'm sure the deal will be fluffed up much like Love's deal.

I just had a thought... I think Brocks agent will the Niners Purdy doesn't sign anything until we see Brendel and McKivitz drive out of town in their new toyotas
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Yeah, I totally said that. I think he was. He wasn't this year.

So why should he be paid as much as some of the highest paid QBs? Because of one "elite" season? You crap on Herbert and Dak, but both those guys have had multiple seasons putting up numbers like Brock did in 2023.

And if you don't think he's elite….why the f**k are you guys all about paying him that elite level QB money? That's the whole damn debate here.

I dont think he will be paid like Mahomes.
More like with Hebert or Love.

I never said I thought he should be the top paid QB. I am just not really worried about the contract, it will work out to be cap friendly enough.
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Yes Brock has had one "elite" year out of 3 atm.

Are we going to sign our future to that?

That is how it usually works. What do you think the team should do?
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
It's not elite money, this is just another straw man to fight against the kid you hate. Idk how many times you have to be told it's not elite money

Just because we can't say Brock is elite after 2.5 seasons of play, doesn't mean we never will be able to

So what is "elite" money then? From my perspective being one of the highest paid players at your positions is the definition of that
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Yes Brock has had one "elite" year out of 3 atm.

Are we going to sign our future to that?

That is how it usually works. What do you think the team should do?

Be patient. Let Brock play next year and see how he does. Draft a QB or sign another Darnold type guy to put a little pressure on.
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Brock has 1.5 seasons of great play. Possibly saved jobs in the FO, got Aiyuk a payday he was never going to see without him, won 4 playoff games (while actually putting up good numbers and carrying us at times). He's already the franchise single season passing leader. Most games with 110+ passer rating to start a career or something like that

It's the qb position. You pay for a good one. We've gone like 30 years without a qb with the potential Brock has, it's a no brainer to pay him

Again I didn't say don't pay him. Baker mayfield might have done a lot of that same s**t in TB and he's not getting Dak cash?

where was that passer rating in the 4th QR this yr when we really needed him to step up and win some games?
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Yes Brock has had one "elite" year out of 3 atm.

Are we going to sign our future to that?

That is how it usually works. What do you think the team should do?

Offer him a fair deal and if he sticks his nose up to it wanting what Dak and Burrow got, say go see if anyone will pay you that kind of cash (no one will) or play out the contract and show everyone 2023 wasn't you peak yr in the league.
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
I dont think he will be paid like Mahomes.
More like with Hebert or Love.

I never said I thought he should be the top paid QB. I am just not really worried about the contract, it will work out to be cap friendly enough.

Mahomes' contract is so unique, no one signs a 10 yr deal. KC f**ked Mahomes and his agent. KC will just continue to restructure his contract and they will have cap space over and over because he's a generational QB. It's not like they plan to cut him anytime soon because of poor play.

Herbert has practical GTD cash of around $218M. There is absolutely no way Brock should be getting that kind of money after one very good yr of football.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
It's not elite money, this is just another straw man to fight against the kid you hate. Idk how many times you have to be told it's not elite money

Just because we can't say Brock is elite after 2.5 seasons of play, doesn't mean we never will be able to

So what is "elite" money then? From my perspective being one of the highest paid players at your positions is the definition of that

Almost 1/3 of QBs average $50 mil per year. So $50 million isn't elite money.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Yes Brock has had one "elite" year out of 3 atm.

Are we going to sign our future to that?

That is how it usually works. What do you think the team should do?

Offer him a fair deal and if he sticks his nose up to it wanting what Dak and Burrow got, say go see if anyone will pay you that kind of cash (no one will) or play out the contract and show everyone 2023 wasn't you peak yr in the league.

It isnt gonna go down like that.
Lynch and Marathe are gonna work out something that works for both parties IMO.
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