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Originally posted by mayo49:
He wouldn't have earn it? Yeah, he would have - hate the game not the player.

So every single player that's earned and extension deserves to be one of the highest paid players at their position. even if they didn't play to that level the yr they were heading into a contract extension?

If BA played all yr this yr and had an avg overall yr. Much worse than last yr, we are still obligated to make him one of the highest paid WRs in football? If you agree I will ask you why?
Originally posted by NYniner85:
I've said the love deal is probably the closest thing to comparable imo. Not a ton of experience with ups and downs. The difference between all those guys and Brock is they were all getting paid coming off one of their best seasons.

I mean let's use another player….how about BA. If he was headed into a contract yr this offseason, played all yr and wasn't playing great overall football (avg play) would we still be forced to have to making him one of the highest paid WRs in football?

there's no forcing, we are walking headfirst into these moves. when BA was acting stupid over the offseason, i said ok he wants to go to Steelers let him go. we get a draft pick and cap space. and reps for the rook WRs and other guys can play.
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Baker has bounced around some and played 8 years in the league. He is what he is. Brock has 2 full seasons. Hes young. Young QBs that have earned an extension with their franchise do not get Baker deals dude

Baker had like 7 HCs and 8 OCs in 8yrs. Brock got put into one of the best positions a QB can be put into.

Earned and extension doesn't mean you're earned to be one or the highest paid players in the NFL, especially when it hasn't all been great football.

I don't recall you making these excuses for Alex Smith.

As others have asked you, what is your actual point here? You said that you're not saying that we shouldn't pay him. So are you just complaining because your guy Trey didn't pan out?
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
I've said the love deal is probably the closest thing to comparable imo. Not a ton of experience with ups and downs. The difference between all those guys and Brock is they were all getting paid coming off one of their best seasons.

I mean let's use another player….how about BA. If he was headed into a contract yr this offseason, played all yr and wasn't playing great overall football (avg play) would we still be forced to have to making him one of the highest paid WRs in football?

there's no forcing, we are walking headfirst into these moves. when BA was acting stupid over the offseason, i said ok he wants to go to Steelers let him go. we get a draft pick and cap space. and reps for the rook WRs and other guys can play.

WR's are much easier to replace than QB's. What would be your plan if Purdy held out (which he would do if we offered him $30m-$40m like you guys are talking about.
Originally posted by Furlow:
I don't recall you making these excuses for Alex Smith.

As others have asked you, what is your actual point here? You said that you're not saying that we shouldn't pay him. So are you just complaining because your guy Trey didn't pan out?

Alex frankly sucked. he lost camp battles to Shaun Hill and JTO. the point i am making and i am hearing also from NY is you can pay brock and it can be a team friendly deal at the same time. this is win - win. there is just no reason to pay brock the banana bucks cuz no one else is bidding. we would be bidding up ourselves.
Originally posted by Furlow:
WR's are much easier to replace than QB's. What would be your plan if Purdy held out (which he would do if we offered him $30m-$40m like you guys are talking about.

purdy ain't holding out, i can't see that. this guy making peanuts you think he would hold out on 200m on the table?
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
He wouldn't have earn it? Yeah, he would have - hate the game not the player.

So every single player that's earned and extension deserves to be one of the highest paid players at their position. even if they didn't play to that level the yr they were heading into a contract extension?

If BA played all yr this yr and had an avg overall yr. Much worse than last yr, we are still obligated to make him one of the highest paid WRs in football? If you agree I will ask you why?

He deserves it because he meet someone's prerequisite to be considered in the first place.
[ Edited by mayo49 on Jan 15, 2025 at 9:24 AM ]
Originally posted by Furlow:
WR's are much easier to replace than QB's. What would be your plan if Purdy held out (which he would do if we offered him $30m-$40m like you guys are talking about.

you do bring up a good point here, in you need a QB room. not just for 'pressure' or negotiation, just for NFL football. i don't much like allen or dobbs, so we need a QB2. i suggested Mariota. on a 1 year 6m type. that's what he is on now. he'd be a good QB2. everyone says shanny gets the most out of QBs, if he was needed for a game or two he would do solid for us.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Baker has bounced around some and played 8 years in the league. He is what he is. Brock has 2 full seasons. Hes young. Young QBs that have earned an extension with their franchise do not get Baker deals dude

Baker had like 7 HCs and 8 OCs in 8yrs. Brock got put into one of the best positions a QB can be put into.

Earned and extension doesn't mean you're earned to be one or the highest paid players in the NFL, especially when it hasn't all been great football.

Maybe if Baker could carry everybody in his first few years like you expect from young QBs that wouldn't have happened to him

Most QBs that get paid did it with weapons. We spent 3 firsts thinking we could compete with any qb. It's not that easy
[ Edited by CharlieSheen on Jan 15, 2025 at 9:26 AM ]
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Furlow:
WR's are much easier to replace than QB's. What would be your plan if Purdy held out (which he would do if we offered him $30m-$40m like you guys are talking about.

purdy ain't holding out, i can't see that. this guy making peanuts you think he would hold out on 200m on the table?

If they offer him $30m-$40m, he's holding out (as he should).

Would I like to see him accept something in the low to mid $50m range? Absolutely. These players all need to understand that every dollar that they demand and get is a dollar that now can't be spent on teammates. There is a cap to deal with.

But it's just absolutely ridiculous that some in here are saying he should "be happy with" $25m-$40m per season "because it's a lot of money." That's not how this works. These guys are paid relative to their peers, same as any profession.
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Warner plays with and competes against Purdy every day. I think his opinion carries weight.

Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Game manager


Every QB in the NFL can do this


But he's not tall so


Backup QB's do this regularly


Who's calling him a backup or a bad QB? He's a good young starting QB.

no he's not tall and because of that he's 7th overall in batted balls at the LOS since 2023. We all know the issues when the weather isn't great as well. Thoughts on why?

without question the team did him no favors last yr. We've all talked about the lack of separation. In 2023 he had guys getting open a lot more which in itself makes passing easier. I think he's accurate. I don't think he's an accurate power thrower, which makes those tight window throws you expect the high level guys to make harder for him. According to PFF he ranked 28th in those tight window throws (throws where there is a yard or less of separation between the defender and target).

All in all, in order for Brock to maintain that 2023 level, he's gonna need a damn good roster to ride on….probably a little more than some of the other highly paid QBs. I don't think that's some shocking thing to point out. Once he's gotten paid and those cap hit starting get real, he's gonna have to elevate what he has around him. SF overall is gonna have to draft much better as well.
Originally posted by Furlow:
Warner plays with and competes against Purdy every day. I think his opinion carries weight.


Do you think Warner would go on ESPN and blast Brock or any of his teammates? I'm not saying what he's saying isn't true, but acting like a teammate is some objective voice is ridiculous. That's like Jim Harbough trying to tell all of us that AJ Jenkins was gonna be a great WR.

you sound like Lombardi.
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Baker has bounced around some and played 8 years in the league. He is what he is. Brock has 2 full seasons. Hes young. Young QBs that have earned an extension with their franchise do not get Baker deals dude

Baker had like 7 HCs and 8 OCs in 8yrs. Brock got put into one of the best positions a QB can be put into.

Earned and extension doesn't mean you're earned to be one or the highest paid players in the NFL, especially when it hasn't all been great football.

Maybe if Baker could carry everybody in his first few years like you expect from young QBs that wouldn't have happened to him

Most QBs that get paid did it with weapons. We spent 3 firsts thinking we could compete with any qb. It's not that easy

Mayfield was on the right trajectory but then got hurt and Cleveland panicked and signed Watson. His 3rd year in the league Cleveland went 11-5 and he threw 26 TDs and 8 INTs. He got hurt the next year and Cleveland dumped him. He was in a bad spot with the Panthers but looked good with LA and then singed with Tampa and has thrown 28 & 41 TDs in 2 seasons.
[ Edited by Jcool on Jan 15, 2025 at 9:38 AM ]
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Furlow:
WR's are much easier to replace than QB's. What would be your plan if Purdy held out (which he would do if we offered him $30m-$40m like you guys are talking about.

purdy ain't holding out, i can't see that. this guy making peanuts you think he would hold out on 200m on the table?

If they offer him $30m-$40m, he's holding out (as he should).

Would I like to see him accept something in the low to mid $50m range? Absolutely. These players all need to understand that every dollar that they demand and get is a dollar that now can't be spent on teammates. There is a cap to deal with.

But it's just absolutely ridiculous that some in here are saying he should "be happy with" $25m-$40m per season "because it's a lot of money." That's not how this works. These guys are paid relative to their peers, same as any profession.

200m is a lot of coin. he would be wise to get set for life.

if push comes to shove, tell brock and his agent to find the 60m aav deal they are seeking. i doubt they find that from any team. i view this as more about what is the league willing to pay this man. not so much about his peers. most of his peers are round 1 guys with those high end tools GMs like. we can say those tools don't matter, but we know that's what GMs are looking for and prize. teams would rather draft a QB on the rook contract than give up a pick then pay brock $60m. no team wants to do that.
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