QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
First off I was messing with you NY C'mon man.

But Brock is on par, those other two especially Dak, the dude can't even win a playoff game. Sure it's because the 49ers has his number but, whenever he plays the 9ers he makes multiple mistakes. To say Brock shouldn't make Dak money is absurd or even Joe Burrow money.

We cannot sit here and say Brock doesn't have enough seasons. You don't expect Shanahan and the front office to say hey he doesn't have enough seasons so lets not pay him that much. Whether you like it or not its the market and it will only go up.

Okay good lol I can't handle those p***y troll comments about hating someone. Weak ass debate deflecting s**t. Enough with that 😉

winning playoffs games comes down to more than just the QB. It's one game. Nick foles won a SB no one thinks he should get paid like Mahomes lol. JG won 4 playoff games and we all know it wasn't because of just him.

Dak has multiple seasons of putting up numbers that Brock did once. Same with Joe and Herbert. Dallas is also stupid for paying Dak that much. Why does SF have to follow suit?

Like I keep saying let the market dictate it then. What team is gonna pay him that much money? Not a god damn one that's who. Go talk to anyone outside of this fan forum and you will get it. We can all like Brock and want to see him get paid, let's keep s**t in perspective though.

Regular season games to playoff games, it takes a team correct. But in those games the QB and HC get the blame for the losses. So if they get the blame shouldn't they get the credit? Why is Tom Brady the GOAT, if it's the team that won them? We both know Brock Purdy was clutch enough to come through with a win.

I'm not saying to overpay for Purdy. But comparing him to Prescott to Burrow to Herbert, no doubt he should be paid that much.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
you said put him out there to get a price

that didn't happen to Lamar or Dak like you exampled.. Lamar and Dak didn't get any offers and both of those guys signed for top dollar

In Lamar's case, he was initially asking for a contract to match Watson's. Thats why the Ravens let him shop around.

His contract ended up being 70 million ish less guaranteed.

He also didn't have an agent

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Then stop acting like you do

I never have, lol. My suggestion has been for the team to do what they can to find his value before they pay him.

It's a dumb suggestion. I know if I were in Kyle and John's shoes I'd want to pay this kid. What he's done on 900k, the jobs he potentially saved, the receiver that he got paid

He deserves to be rewarded

Yes he does but not so much that they can't add good players around him, Assuming he gets a 4 or 5 year deal the team will look much different. than it now does in 2027, 28 and 29. Williams will be gone. CMC, Deebo and Kittle are likely to be gone. Maybe Aiyuk. Warner is probably retired in 5 seasons. Maybe Bosa too.

The point here is the front office has to be looking pst next year and plannning for the future when a lot of the best players are gone. Maybe they can replace some of them in the draft but how likely is it that they can find another CMC, Bosa or Warner if they're drdting late like they usually do. They'll neede money available to go out and sign some free agents.

You can still add good players. Some of the most stacked rosters in the league have QBs in the 50 mil range. This is just an excuse for John and Kyle if things go south talent wise

Originally posted by NYniner85:
He also didn't have an agent

It was actually 50 million less, but the point remains the same:

He had an idea what he was worth/what he wanted. They hit an impasse in negotiation and the team let him test the market. He signed for less.

Pretty smart, and also basic. He's also an elite QB, lol.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Regular season games to playoff games, it takes a team correct. But in those games the QB and HC get the blame for the losses. So if they get the blame shouldn't they get the credit? Why is Tom Brady the GOAT, if it's the team that won them? We both know Brock Purdy was clutch enough to come through with a win.

I'm not saying to overpay for Purdy. But comparing him to Prescott to Burrow to Herbert, no doubt he should be paid that much.

So Jimmy was the reason we won those playoff games? Those packers playoff games? That Viking game? For real?

where was that clutch this yr? Dude was straight up bad in those scenarios. He has zero of those this yr. He's had 2 in the regular season since 2022. Yes he sure as s**t had some of that magic in the playoffs. Mostly with his legs and some BA circus catch to help out.

Again Herbert/burrow/dak have more seasons doing what he did last yr. Ain't nobody taken Brock over burrow and Herbert if you leave this fan forum. Dak is debatable he was also vastly overpaid and we shouldn't follow suit. Brock should not be the highest paid player in the NFL. Period.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Yes

Ah, 2023 and 2024.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
You can still add good players. Some of the most stacked rosters in the league have QBs in the 50 mil range. This is just an excuse for John and Kyle if things go south talent wise

Highest cap hit for QBs this yr was Murray $49M, Stafford $46M, Dak $44M…please tell me how stacked those rosters were. Dak's cap hit next yr is $90M! Yeah totally can work with that lol

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Regular season games to playoff games, it takes a team correct. But in those games the QB and HC get the blame for the losses. So if they get the blame shouldn't they get the credit? Why is Tom Brady the GOAT, if it's the team that won them? We both know Brock Purdy was clutch enough to come through with a win.

I'm not saying to overpay for Purdy. But comparing him to Prescott to Burrow to Herbert, no doubt he should be paid that much.

So Jimmy was the reason we won those playoff games? Those packers playoff games? That Viking game? For real?

where was that clutch this yr? Dude was straight up bad in those scenarios. He has zero of those this yr. He's had 2 in the regular season since 2022. Yes he sure as s**t had some of that magic in the playoffs. Mostly with his legs and some BA circus catch to help out.

Again Herbert/burrow/dak have more seasons doing what he did last yr. Ain't nobody taken Brock over burrow and Herbert if you leave this fan forum. Dak is debatable he was also vastly overpaid and we shouldn't follow suit. Brock should not be the highest paid player in the NFL. Period.

100 % agree.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yes

Ah, 2023 and 2024.

Correct. I mean I watched all his completions from 2023. It was not full of laser arm tight window throws, that some of this other high end QBs make. Dudes were separating and getting YAC. Very much like when Jimmy played. He added the ability to at least push the ball downfield and can extend plays. Something Jimmy was allergic to.

My point (and what Greg Cosell said) is when the team around him is good, Purdy is a high-level executor and ball distributor. That's important stuff and one of the top things you need to be a good starting QB. When s**t isn't 100% that's when the lack of tangible traits show up. Whether it's guys not being able to separate at a high rate, playing from behind, poor weather etc etc. is what it is.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

You can still add good players. Some of the most stacked rosters in the league have QBs in the 50 mil range. This is just an excuse for John and Kyle if things go south talent wise

Highest cap hit for QBs this yr was Murray $49M, Stafford $46M, Dak $44M…please tell me how stacked those rosters were. Dak's cap hit next yr is $90M! Yeah totally can work with that lol

We aren't talking about cap hits though. Just the fear mongering of signing Brock to a contract. We can have a good team with a qb on 50+ mil contract

I like what the rams are doing though. They got young talent on both sides and their defense is starting to take off. They've done what the cowboys and cardinals haven't done and what we will have to do (even if we signed Josh Allen to 60 mil). They've drafted well

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

You can still add good players. Some of the most stacked rosters in the league have QBs in the 50 mil range. This is just an excuse for John and Kyle if things go south talent wise

Highest cap hit for QBs this yr was Murray $49M, Stafford $46M, Dak $44M…please tell me how stacked those rosters were. Dak's cap hit next yr is $90M! Yeah totally can work with that lol

What are the alternatives to signing Purdy?

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
We aren't talking about cap hits though. Just the fear mongering of signing Brock to a contract. We can have a good team with a qb on 50+ mil contract

I like what the rams are doing though. They got young talent on both sides and their defense is starting to take off. They've done what the cowboys and cardinals haven't done and what we will have to do (even if we signed Josh Allen to 60 mil). They've drafted well

You might not be talking about cap hits and contracts. I sure as s**t am, along with the ability to have a top end roster around him.

Yes it will come down to drafting well because money isn't gonna be flowing like it was when you have a $900k QB. You want to argue with folks about him now…just wait when he gets $200M and the moment he's not playing well.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
What are the alternatives to signing Purdy?

I'm not saying don't sign him. I'm saying don't sign him for Dak/Burrow money.

I think the way the love contract is setup that makes the most sense.

jordan love money let's go!

Originally posted by NYniner85:

You might not be talking about cap hits and contracts. I sure as s**t am, along with the ability to have a top end roster around him.

Yes it will come down to drafting well because money isn't gonna be flowing like it was when you have a $900k QB. You want to argue with folks about him now…just wait when he gets $200M and the moment he's not playing well.

I bet you can't wait lol