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QB Brock Purdy Thread
QB Brock Purdy Thread
Jan 15, 2025 at 1:56 PM
- dwy621
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What is the urgency to pay him this next year? He's still under contract and we should see how he plays on the last year. Purdy has no leverage. Niners need to start playing hardball and not cave to holdout demands and it should start with Purdy.
Jan 15, 2025 at 1:57 PM
- RonnieLott
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Paying on "Potential" is fraught with danger.
Don't they do that with draft picks every year??
They don't really pay rookies.
They do pay QBs coming off a rookie contract.
Jan 15, 2025 at 1:59 PM
- ninerfaninnorcal
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And even if another team offered more than us for Brock, it does not necessarily mean it is best for Brock. You get traded to a bad team like Jimmy G to the Raiders, and soon you will find yourself as the backup and making less than if you asked for less but with a better team around you. Brock proved this year with us he is a below average QB on a bad team (our team with injuries).
Jan 15, 2025 at 2:01 PM
- SteveWallacesHelmet
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
It's based on the market
It's based on those player comps. Almost all of whom didn't test the market (at least publicly).
Player comps IS the market. Like it or not, that is the reality.
Jan 15, 2025 at 2:01 PM
- 49erFaithful6
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Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
And even if another team offered more than us for Brock, it does not necessarily mean it is best for Brock. You get traded to a bad team like Jimmy G to the Raiders, and soon you will find yourself as the backup and making less than if you asked for less but with a better team around you. Brock proved this year with us he is a below average QB on a bad team (our team with injuries).
yes sir
5 years 200m i am sticking with it. good for the player. good for the club. we all win. maybe we can celebrate with tacos and some beers if this gets done early. no reason not to enjoy the offseason.
Jan 15, 2025 at 2:05 PM
- SmokeyJoe
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Player comps IS the market. Like it or not, that is the reality.
Players being signed by their own teams based on comps has been the reality in practice for many teams in the NFL.
It does not necessarily reflect the market price of the individual players.
The suggestion here by some is to find out his market price. The response for many, including yourself, is to follow other teams in their decision making processes even when this model is not a successful one in most cases.
[ Edited by SmokeyJoe on Jan 15, 2025 at 2:07 PM ]
Jan 15, 2025 at 2:07 PM
- TheWooLick
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:Player comps IS the market. Like it or not, that is the reality.
Players being signed by their own teams based on comps has been the reality in practice for many teams in the NFL.
It does not necessarily reflect the market price of the individual players.
The suggestion here by some is to find out his market price. The response for many, including yourself, is to follow other teams' in their decision making processes even when this model is not a successful one in most cases.
Letting him hit the free market would hard to plan for and risky.
[ Edited by TheWooLick on Jan 15, 2025 at 2:12 PM ]
Jan 15, 2025 at 2:07 PM
- SteveWallacesHelmet
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Yes he does but not so much that they can't add good players around him, Assuming he gets a 4 or 5 year deal the team will look much different. than it now does in 2027, 28 and 29. Williams will be gone. CMC, Deebo and Kittle are likely to be gone. Maybe Aiyuk. Warner is probably retired in 5 seasons. Maybe Bosa too.
The point here is the front office has to be looking pst next year and plannning for the future when a lot of the best players are gone. Maybe they can replace some of them in the draft but how likely is it that they can find another CMC, Bosa or Warner if they're drdting late like they usually do. They'll neede money available to go out and sign some free agents.
This is such a silly take and anyone who is concerned we won't be able to sign free agents because of Brocks deal isn't dealing in reality. Count how much money all of the guys you just named count against the cap. Then add it terrible contracts like Hargrave. Then subtract 50-60 for Brock. That's still a TON of money.
We have who is widely considered the best cap guy in the business. You guys are scared of something that can be possible not probable, and you are assuming it's definite.
Jan 15, 2025 at 2:08 PM
- SmokeyJoe
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Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Letting him hit the free market would be incredibly dumb and hard to plan for.
We can let him test the market without being on the open market. It has built in advantages for the team.
I'm not suggesting we move on from him and let become an unrestricted free agent after next season.
Jan 15, 2025 at 2:10 PM
- FootballExpert49ers
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Originally posted by dwy621:
What is the urgency to pay him this next year? He's still under contract and we should see how he plays on the last year. Purdy has no leverage. Niners need to start playing hardball and not cave to holdout demands and it should start with Purdy.
Because then he could get pissed off and decide he'll hold out the next year and force a trade.
Jan 15, 2025 at 2:11 PM
- SmokeyJoe
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Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
Because then he could get pissed off and decide he'll hold out the next year and force a trade.
The risk is he holds out and we waste at minimum a portion of the season, and likely more.
Jan 15, 2025 at 2:13 PM
- TheWooLick
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:Originally posted by TheWooLick:Letting him hit the free market would be incredibly dumb and hard to plan for.
We can let him test the market without being on the open market. It has built in advantages for the team.
I'm not suggesting we move on from him and let become an unrestricted free agent after next season.
What if he tests the market and comes back and says it is $250 million guaranteed?
Jan 15, 2025 at 2:13 PM
- dwy621
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Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
Originally posted by dwy621:
What is the urgency to pay him this next year? He's still under contract and we should see how he plays on the last year. Purdy has no leverage. Niners need to start playing hardball and not cave to holdout demands and it should start with Purdy.
Because then he could get pissed off and decide he'll hold out the next year and force a trade.
He loses his year of playing if he holds out and the year doesn't accrue. He'd still be on his 4th year of his contract the following year. It would be a bad business decision for him
Jan 15, 2025 at 2:13 PM
- 49erFaithful6
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Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Letting him hit the free market would be incredibly dumb and hard to plan for.
We can let him test the market without being on the open market. It has built in advantages for the team.
I'm not suggesting we move on from him and let become an unrestricted free agent after next season.
What if he tests the market and comes back and says it is $250 million guaranteed?
where is Strwy, earth to strwy, come in plz, you are needed
Jan 15, 2025 at 2:14 PM
- FootballExpert49ers
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Originally posted by dwy621:
He loses his year of playing if he holds out and the year doesn't accrue. He'd still be on his 4th year of his contract the following year. It would be a bad business decision for him
No, I'm saying he could return to 2023 form in 2025 and then sign the tender and hold out in 2026, saying he demands a trade. Then the team is going to have to trade him.