QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Furlow:
I agree. So are you saying we should offer him based on his measurables only? Or do you think decision making, processing speed, toughness, leadership, etc. are part of the evaluation?

No of course not. All those other things you mentioned are factored.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Without stats, what is the best way to evaluate players?

Film.

Originally posted by Furlow:
Why do you guys keep saying he has little leverage? What is the team going to do if he holds out? What is your plan for QB if not Purdy? Don't you think Lynch and Kyle are wondering the same thing? Lol

What's he gonna do if he holds out? He's not sitting on millions of dollars. He's coming off a subpar season and what, you think he holding out is gonna make him more money if it goes into the season?

While I don't want it to happen, I'm sure Kyle would get Kirk here/play until Brock got his s**t straight. So no Brock doesn't hold all this leverage to want to be the highest paid player in the NFL. He doesn't have yrs worth of good play as equity to use.

imo it won't get anywhere close to any of that. I think the love deal makes sense for everyone

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
He doesn't need to be eligible to be a free agent. He has all the leverage in that situation. The team would have to commit a s**tload of cap room to a guy who refuses to play.

Also, who cares if he wants to be the highest paid player in football? What difference does that make?

His cap hit next yr is $5M, he's not a FA. He has little leverage. There is no tag option.

yeah you're right we should have made BA the highest paid WR too. They should give Dre $100M and make him the highest paid LBer. Banks let's give him $80M. So on and so on. Who cares amirite?

folks b***hing about the OL, the defense and playmakers around Brock being the reason he had a down yr and how they need better players around him…AND want to take all that cash and give it to Brock

Why do you guys keep saying he has little leverage? What is the team going to do if he holds out? What is your plan for QB if not Purdy? Don't you think Lynch and Kyle are wondering the same thing? Lol

Boom problem solved . Choose any player with a cannon arm below.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
the 2021 class is FA

you bring in fields
you bring in mac
you bring in wilson
you bring in trey

then we see who is least worst

Sweet baby Jesus please tell me Faithful was joking lol.

no doubt my friend!
the = joke

it will be interesting to see how these guys do in the offseason. it was not a good QB class.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
He doesn't need to be eligible to be a free agent. He has all the leverage in that situation. The team would have to commit a s**tload of cap room to a guy who refuses to play.

Also, who cares if he wants to be the highest paid player in football? What difference does that make?

His cap hit next yr is $5M, he's not a FA. He has little leverage. There is no tag option.

yeah you're right we should have made BA the highest paid WR too. They should give Dre $100M and make him the highest paid LBer. Banks let's give him $80M. So on and so on. Who cares amirite?

folks b***hing about the OL, the defense and playmakers around Brock being the reason he had a down yr and how they need better players around him…AND want to take all that cash and give it to Brock

Why do you guys keep saying he has little leverage? What is the team going to do if he holds out? What is your plan for QB if not Purdy? Don't you think Lynch and Kyle are wondering the same thing? Lol

Boom problem solved . Choose any player with a cannon arm below.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
the 2021 class is FA

you bring in fields
you bring in mac
you bring in wilson
you bring in trey

then we see who is least worst

Sweet baby Jesus please tell me Faithful was joking lol.

Look what Peyton did with Bo Nix mobility and cannon arm. Kyle should be able to do the same with any of the above. Look how much Kyle accomplished with all of Purdy limitations.

FA is Kyle's oyster. Just choose any of the above and add #6 to the trophy case already

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Furlow:
If you don't want him to hold out, then you have to offer him something. The only way you can get to the point of "no leverage" that you're talking about is by playing hardball, forcing him to go to other teams to seek his value, etc. Is that how you think a QB like Purdy should be treated? If they treat Purdy that way, do you think it will sour his attitude about the franchise? If they treat Purdy that way, do you think other free agents will want to come to SF and deal with ownership that treats their players this way?

Yes
No
Yes

You would not make a good GM lol. You're completely ignoring the human aspect of this. These are grown men putting their bodies and health on the line to win games. For that sacrifice, they are paid. Purdy has outperformed his contract more than any player in NFL history. Period end of story. It's really not even close. They owe him, big time.

Why don't you guys just assign half of whatever Purdy gets to his first three years in the league? 4 year extension means 8 total years, so divide by 8. That'll give you an average per year of probably $30m or so. Maybe that will help you deal with reality.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Look what Peyton did with Bo Nix mobility and cannon arm. Kyle should be able to do the same with any of the above. Look how much Kyle accomplished with all of Purdy limitations.

FA is Kyle's oyster. Just choose any of the above and add #6 to the trophy case already

Throw in Cousins too.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
He doesn't need to be eligible to be a free agent. He has all the leverage in that situation. The team would have to commit a s**tload of cap room to a guy who refuses to play.

Also, who cares if he wants to be the highest paid player in football? What difference does that make?

His cap hit next yr is $5M, he's not a FA. He has little leverage. There is no tag option.

yeah you're right we should have made BA the highest paid WR too. They should give Dre $100M and make him the highest paid LBer. Banks let's give him $80M. So on and so on. Who cares amirite?

folks b***hing about the OL, the defense and playmakers around Brock being the reason he had a down yr and how they need better players around him…AND want to take all that cash and give it to Brock

Why do you guys keep saying he has little leverage? What is the team going to do if he holds out? What is your plan for QB if not Purdy? Don't you think Lynch and Kyle are wondering the same thing? Lol

Boom problem solved . Choose any player with a cannon arm below.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
the 2021 class is FA

you bring in fields
you bring in mac
you bring in wilson
you bring in trey

then we see who is least worst

Sweet baby Jesus please tell me Faithful was joking lol.

no doubt my friend!
the = joke

it will be interesting to see how these guys do in the offseason. it was not a good QB class.

It was great for us.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
We didn't dangle BA to other teams to check out his value. We gave our final offer and he wanted the trade. In the end we still paid more

lamar wasn't dangled out there so the ravens can get a price for Lamar, they tagged him because he wanted a trade and didn't receive any offers

there's no way they attempt to do any of that, unless the 49ers are fine with actually losing Brock

We most certainly did lol and the only reason we paid "more" is because the market dictated he was in demand and worth it.

They did NOT have to give him the nonexclusive tag.

they don't have to do anything. He's under contract for another yr. That's the only difference

Originally posted by Furlow:
You would not make a good GM lol. You're completely ignoring the human aspect of this. These are grown men putting their bodies and health on the line to win games. For that sacrifice, they are paid. Purdy has outperformed his contract more than any player in NFL history. Period end of story. It's really not even close. They owe him, big time.

Why don't you guys just assign half of whatever Purdy gets to his first three years in the league? 4 year extension means 8 total years, so divide by 8. That'll give you an average per year of probably $30m or so. Maybe that will help you deal with reality.

Yea, making decisions based on emotion regardless of market price, leverage, and team situation is the way to being a good GM. We owe this guy!

Our team has routinely reset the market at multiple positions. The idea that people won't want to play here because we were hesitant to hand over a top tier contract to Brock Purdy is beyond dumb.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Without stats, what is the best way to evaluate players?

Film.

Very Subjective.

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
What? His cap hit this year is about $1 million. He IS a free agent after this upcoming season.

The cap hit would be around $40 million if he were to sign a tender and hold out.

Trying to penny pinch with Aiyuk is what caused him to hold out and play at a much worse level.

Why would they gave Greenlaw a big deal when he's coming off an injury, or Banks anything at all when he played like s**t?

Brock had a down year because of injury. 2023 Brock could have done fine with Willie Snead as a starting WR. 2024 Brock underthrew nearly every deep ball he attempted, whereas, as I said, he didn't underthrow any deep balls whatsoever last year (I notice you never came up with an answer to my challenge to find an example of that in 2023).

The only things that matter in football are systems, special teams, and QB. Unless you're the Queefs...then it's just systems and special teams.

You don't penny pinch with QBs. You start with the QB and fill in the rest as best you can.

lol no he most certainly is not a FA and his 2025 cap is $5M

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/san-francisco-49ers

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Yea, making decisions based on emotion regardless of market price, leverage, and team situation is the way to being a good GM. We owe this guy!

Our team has routinely reset the market at multiple positions. The idea that people won't want to play here because we were hesitant to hand over a top tier contract to Brock Purdy is beyond dumb.

Not paying Purdy means the team won't have a FQB if he leaves and the team can't plan around a FQB.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Look what Peyton did with Bo Nix mobility and cannon arm. Kyle should be able to do the same with any of the above. Look how much Kyle accomplished with all of Purdy limitations.

FA is Kyle's oyster. Just choose any of the above and add #6 to the trophy case already

Throw in Cousins too.

I knew I forgot someone. Cousins doesn't need mobility though his arm strength and clutchness makes up for it.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Look what Peyton did with Bo Nix mobility and cannon arm. Kyle should be able to do the same with any of the above. Look how much Kyle accomplished with all of Purdy limitations.

FA is Kyle's oyster. Just choose any of the above and add #6 to the trophy case already

Throw in Cousins too.

Cousins would be a bridge to nowhere.

You guys saying Fields and Mac Jones are as good as Purdy are nuts.