Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
It's only like 1 mil more per year than the spotrac projection
I'm picturing Purdy's agent printing out Spotrac's projection and slamming it down on a desk in front of Paraag, lol.
While playing clips of Love, Herbert, and Darnold from this weekend.
That looks like us watching this team all yr
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QB Brock Purdy Thread
QB Brock Purdy Thread
Jan 15, 2025 at 4:22 PM
- 49erFaithful6
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Jan 15, 2025 at 4:22 PM
- Furlow
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Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
It's only like 1 mil more per year than the spotrac projection
I'm picturing Purdy's agent printing out Spotrac's projection and slamming it down on a desk in front of Paraag, lol.
I'm just pointing out the number isn't foolish. It's close based on the market
It's not. But I really hope he doesn't push for that. Last thing we need is a headline saying "highest paid QB in NFL history." I'd like to see him accept a deal in the low to mid $50m per range that would put him in line with Love, Herbert, etc. He absolutely deserves and has earned more. I just think it would go a long way in building closeness with his teammates and it would show the fans that he's a team first guy.
Jan 15, 2025 at 4:22 PM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:we did not do that to BA, BA wanted a trade after an offer was already placed. an offer where we didn't need to dangle him out for any takers.. So no, we did not offer him up to other teams as the first negotiation tactic
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
We didn't dangle BA to other teams to check out his value. We gave our final offer and he wanted the trade. In the end we still paid more
lamar wasn't dangled out there so the ravens can get a price for Lamar, they tagged him because he wanted a trade and didn't receive any offers
there's no way they attempt to do any of that, unless the 49ers are fine with actually losing Brock
We most certainly did lol and the only reason we paid "more" is because the market dictated he was in demand and worth it.
They did NOT have to give him the nonexclusive tag.
they don't have to do anything. He's under contract for another yr. That's the only difference
As for Lamar, if they didn't tag Lamar, he would have been an URFA. He already declined an offer and asked for a trade. that is why the NE tag was placed. They didn't tag him as the first option to get a market check for him like you are making it out to be. What happened with them is different that what you are suggesting.
my point in all this is No team shops around their players first to get a consensus on what they should pay their players
Jan 15, 2025 at 4:24 PM
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
we did not do that to BA, BA wanted a trade after an offer was already placed. an offer where we didn't need to dangle him out for any takers.. So no, we did not offer him up to other teams as the first negotiation tactic
As for Lamar, if they didn't tag Lamar, he would have been an URFA. He already declined an offer and asked for a trade. that is why the NE tag was placed. They didn't tag him as the first option to get a market check for him like you are making it out to be. What happened with them is different that what you are suggesting.
my point in all this is No team shops around their players first to get a consensus on what they should pay their players
what we did is we said ok, you don't like our offer, why don't you and your agent negotiate with other teams and see what's out there. we'll flip you if you find something or we can match if we feel willing to do so. this is a good tactic if club and player are miles apart.
Jan 15, 2025 at 4:25 PM
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
we did not do that to BA, BA wanted a trade after an offer was already placed. an offer where we didn't need to dangle him out for any takers.. So no, we did not offer him up to other teams as the first negotiation tactic
As for Lamar, if they didn't tag Lamar, he would have been an URFA. He already declined an offer and asked for a trade. that is why the NE tag was placed. They didn't tag him as the first option to get a market check for him like you are making it out to be. What happened with them is different that what you are suggesting.
my point in all this is No team shops around their players first to get a consensus on what they should pay their players
Nobody claimed they did. They tagged him after a year plus impasse in negotiations. Jesus, lol.
Jan 15, 2025 at 4:25 PM
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Furlow:
I was speaking to the group of "you" who want to play hardball and say that Purdy has little/no leverage.
i don't think purdy has much leverage. what's he gonna do, pull a leveon bell? i don't see it.
he wants to get in and play ball. offer the 200m over 5, he will accept and it's a win for both. from 900k to 40,000,000 annual, that's how you know you made it. if you type out all the zeroes, it look bigger.
Okay so he's not going to accept that, because it's well below QB's who he's much better than. So what is your plan at QB when Purdy holds out? Which FA are you bringing in and/or who are you drafting to replace Purdy?
i think he would take it. in what world is pick 262, getting 200m and generational wealth, not a win? imagine if he doesn't take it and we actually had stones, ok, we go with plan B and brock is dangling in the breeze (no pun intended). he would be missing his game checks on a 900k salary, and sitting out and becoming yesterday's news. he'd never get that 200m back. he just has more to lose than SF does.
You're ignoring a simple rule about capitalism which is getting paid what you're worth relative to your peers. Imagine you're in sales and you're outperforming many/most of your coworkers. And your boss offers you less than all of them; with the argument that "it's a lot of money compared to the peanuts I used to pay you." It just doesn't fly, man. Yes what you're talking about is a lot of money, but it's very low relative to Purdy's peers. So it's honestly insulting.
I think they have a shot at convincing him to take low to mid $50m range if they use the team angle, keeping other guys signed, signing a center, etc. And hopefully Purdy's agent is giving him advice about building a legacy by winning rather than just cashing in on a big contract.
Jan 15, 2025 at 4:27 PM
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Originally posted by Furlow:
You're ignoring a simple rule about capitalism which is getting paid what you're worth relative to your peers. Imagine you're in sales and you're outperforming many/most of your coworkers. And your boss offers you less than all of them; with the argument that "it's a lot of money compared to the peanuts I used to pay you." It just doesn't fly, man. Yes what you're talking about is a lot of money, but it's very low relative to Purdy's peers. So it's honestly insulting.
I think they have a shot at convincing him to take low to mid $50m range if they use the team angle, keeping other guys signed, signing a center, etc. And hopefully Purdy's agent is giving him advice about building a legacy by winning rather than just cashing in on a big contract.
Every one of these opinions is colored by an evaluation of Purdy that may or may not be shared by the decision makers around the league.
Jan 15, 2025 at 4:27 PM
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Originally posted by Furlow:Originally posted by CharlieSheen:Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:Originally posted by CharlieSheen:It's only like 1 mil more per year than the spotrac projection
I'm picturing Purdy's agent printing out Spotrac's projection and slamming it down on a desk in front of Paraag, lol.
I'm just pointing out the number isn't foolish. It's close based on the market
It's not. But I really hope he doesn't push for that. Last thing we need is a headline saying "highest paid QB in NFL history." I'd like to see him accept a deal in the low to mid $50m per range that would put him in line with Love, Herbert, etc. He absolutely deserves and has earned more. I just think it would go a long way in building closeness with his teammates and it would show the fans that he's a team first guy.
It actually is. Dak is at 60, so his agent can make the case
Who would you rather move forward with today, Dak or Brock?
Jan 15, 2025 at 4:29 PM
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Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
It actually is. Dak is at 60, so his agent can make the case
Who would you rather move forward with today, Dak or Brock?
I'd rather not make a bad deal, like Dak's.
Do you think honestly think that was a smart move by the Cowboys?
Jan 15, 2025 at 4:32 PM
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:Originally posted by CharlieSheen:It actually is. Dak is at 60, so his agent can make the case
Who would you rather move forward with today, Dak or Brock?
I'd rather not make a bad deal, like Dak's.
Do you think honestly think that was a smart move by the Cowboys?
It's Dak money. That's not going to be a lot within the next 2 seasons. And Purdys bigger cap hits won't even kick in till then
Jan 15, 2025 at 4:32 PM
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:Cowboys should have offered him to other teams to get a real market value lol
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
It actually is. Dak is at 60, so his agent can make the case
Who would you rather move forward with today, Dak or Brock?
I'd rather not make a bad deal, like Dak's.
Do you think honestly think that was a smart move by the Cowboys?
Jan 15, 2025 at 4:32 PM
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Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
5-years, $305M. $61M per year. 👀
— 95.7 The Game (@957thegame) January 15, 2025
That's @LombardiHimself's projection for Brock Purdy's extension with the 49ers.
THOUGHTS??@WillardAndDibs discuss ??
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The amount of make believe money in that deal would be wild.
Jan 15, 2025 at 4:34 PM
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:Cowboys should have offered him to other teams to get a real market value lol
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
It actually is. Dak is at 60, so his agent can make the case
Who would you rather move forward with today, Dak or Brock?
I'd rather not make a bad deal, like Dak's.
Do you think honestly think that was a smart move by the Cowboys?
well Jerry is a old senile man so I don't expect him to do anything well at this pt
Jan 15, 2025 at 4:34 PM
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:NY is.. and that's what i'm myth busting it
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
we did not do that to BA, BA wanted a trade after an offer was already placed. an offer where we didn't need to dangle him out for any takers.. So no, we did not offer him up to other teams as the first negotiation tactic
As for Lamar, if they didn't tag Lamar, he would have been an URFA. He already declined an offer and asked for a trade. that is why the NE tag was placed. They didn't tag him as the first option to get a market check for him like you are making it out to be. What happened with them is different that what you are suggesting.
my point in all this is No team shops around their players first to get a consensus on what they should pay their players
Nobody claimed they did. They tagged him after a year plus impasse in negotiations. Jesus, lol.
Jan 15, 2025 at 4:34 PM
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Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
It's Dak money. That's not going to be a lot within the next 2 seasons. And Purdys bigger cap hits won't even kick in till then
Dak's cap hit is $90m in 2025