QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by RonnieLott:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
the fact is Purdy was worse this year than last year.

Without an All-Star backing group, Purdy struggled, and we didn't even make the play offs.

Is that the future, the destiny that you want for this franchise?

There were arguably 3 players this season on this team who improved on their play or played the same from last season.

One of them was Colton McKivitz…

You expecting Brock to work miracles?

that's right; great Quarterbacks work miracles.

Oh really? Give me one example of one.

Originally posted by genus49:
Oh really? Give me one example of one.

Rodgers won a SB with Mike McCarthy at head coach.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by genus49:
Oh really? Give me one example of one.

Rodgers won a SB with Mike McCarthy at head coach.

Miracles happen every day.

You just gotta BELIEVE!

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
It's not a question for me either. He doesn't get injured he wins his first year. CMC doesn't fumble, or Kyle knows the OT rules and he wins back to back. It didn't happen, but that's just football. I don't question whether he could though

lol, so you are doing madden or your own lil scenarios, vs reality

Originally posted by RonnieLott:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by genus49:
Oh really? Give me one example of one.

Rodgers won a SB with Mike McCarthy at head coach.

Miracles happen every day.

You just gotta BELIEVE!

Don't avoid the question. Give me one example of a QB having a similar situation to what Brock had this year and working that miracle.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by genus49:
Oh really? Give me one example of one.

Rodgers won a SB with Mike McCarthy at head coach.

Miracles happen every day.

You just gotta BELIEVE!

Don't avoid the question. Give me one example of a QB having a similar situation to what Brock had this year and working that miracle.

Eli Manning.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
NY is.. and that's what i'm myth busting it

Except NY suggests it if and only if Brock wants a top tier deal, ie there's an impasse in negotiations.

He has flat out stated if Brock were to take Love like deal, he'd support it.

Not a single person has suggested to just let him test the market outright. The first thing any team would do is offer a contract favorable to the team. This goes without saying, or at least should*

I feel like I've been pretty transparent about all of it lol. I'm not even sure what everyone is so bent out of shape about?

are you ok with Brock at 55?

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Luckily, the option of the franchise tag can buy you time. ????????‍?

But Kyle has always been about optics... for example he never likes the idea of the backup QB making more than the starting QB. Which is why he finally accepted Jimmy G back on the team if he took a contract paying him less than the 2nd year QB, Trey Lance.

So Kyle is gonna be all in for overpaying Brock on a long contract...instead of franchise tagging him (even though this would be the best option for the team). At least until Brock bounces back next season. Then it would be worth *overpaying* for him.

Dude, no it isnt. Why people keep saying this is beyond me. It is demonstrating you have no clue what you are talking about.

Like I said before, Brock will not hold out... he will not take the chance of another QB (with full OTA's + Training camp) running this QB friendly offense, with the playmakers we have. So yeah, let him play out 2025. Hell can use the excuse that the reason we have been successful for the past 4 years is because we have QBs on rookie deals.. and Brock is a continuation of that. Then decide to Tag or pay him next year.

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
Just read article that said 49'ers Insiders are saying 49'ers in no rush to give Brock a deal due to his inconsistent play.

there you go... we'll see.

now before some feel I'm some Brock hater.. I still believe in him, but I don't believe in him under Kyle anymore (enough to pay him $60+mill)... so for me to be convinced I would need to see if Kyle adjusts his offense next year and gives Brock more freedom at the line of scrimmage.

He will NEVER play out his contract without an extension. Nor will our team allow that. You arent living in reality if you think that is going to happen.

Also, saying "there you go" to a poster who just lied about 49ers insiders is just laughable. He didnt read any such article.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

It's not a question for me either. He doesn't get injured he wins his first year. CMC doesn't fumble, or Kyle knows the OT rules and he wins back to back. It didn't happen, but that's just football. I don't question whether he could though

lol, so you are doing madden or your own lil scenarios, vs reality

No it's common sense. We went to OT because we muffed a punt and fumbled. Then the coach handed the other team the advantage. We had to give that game away, so it's pretty clear Brock could've won a SB on his rookie deal

Originally posted by RonnieLott:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by genus49:
Oh really? Give me one example of one.

Rodgers won a SB with Mike McCarthy at head coach.

Miracles happen every day.

You just gotta BELIEVE!

Don't avoid the question. Give me one example of a QB having a similar situation to what Brock had this year and working that miracle.

Eli Manning.

Lazy. In what way was Eli's situation in either season comparable to Brock this year?

All of his receivers healthy. Good OL. Defense with a great pass rush and Spags in 2007.

Where is the comparison?

Originally posted by RonnieLott:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by genus49:
Oh really? Give me one example of one.

Rodgers won a SB with Mike McCarthy at head coach.

Miracles happen every day.

You just gotta BELIEVE!

McCarthy has proven to be a solid coach that can get to the playoffs rather consistently, and Rodgers is a HoF QB who used to be able to tip the scale just enough to win close games. IMO the miracle here is that they only won one. In Rodgers' years in Green Bay as the starter under McCarthy (2008-2018) the other ten NFC QBs to go to the SB were Wilson x2, Manning, Brees, Warner, Kaepernick, Newton, Ryan, Foles and Goff. Compared to the 11 AFC QBs in that time: Brady x5, Manning x3, Roethlisberger x2, Flacco. Rodgers/McCarthy let inferior QBs get past them unlike the AFC Big 3 did those 11 years, with 1 exception.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Yea there's like 10 QBs in the 50-60 mil range lol.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Almost 1/3 of QBs average $50 mil per year. So $50 million isn't elite money.

No they aren't, cap-wise. Please stop with these old wives tales and maybe some middle ground can be found. Here, again, are the top QB Cap hits for next year:

1. Dak Prescott (DAL) - $89.9 million
2. Deshaun Watson (CLE) - $72.9 million
3. Patrick Mahomes (KC) - $66.3 million
4. Derek Carr (NO) - $51.5 million
5. Matthew Stafford (LAR) - $49.7 million
6. Lamar Jackson (BAL) - $43.5 million
7. Jalen Hurts (PHI) - $42.0 million
8. Aaron Rodgers (NYJ) - $37.5 million
9. Trevor Lawrence (JAX) - $37.5 million
10. Joe Burrow (CIN) - $35.3 million

I'm seeing 4 @ over $50M next year,...nowhere close to 10.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
No he's not, he's telling us that should be the first step.

and if he's happy with Brock getting Love's contract, why all this fuss for a 5m difference between Dak's "60" and Love's "55" ?

No, he's not. He has post after post demonstrating that, and they also answer your second question. It's not about the AAV.

not one time did NY say what you are trying to make it out to be. He's continued to post on how we should not offer brock anything close to Dak

It's also about AAV cause AAV is is the first number that hits the headlines. Since AAV isn't the real value then what's the fuss about ?

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by genus49:

Oh really? Give me one example of one.

Rodgers won a SB with Mike McCarthy at head coach.

Miracles happen every day.

You just gotta BELIEVE!

McCarthy has proven to be a solid coach that can get to the playoffs rather consistently, and Rodgers is a HoF QB who used to be able to tip the scale just enough to win close games. IMO the miracle here is that they only won one. In Rodgers' years in Green Bay as the starter under McCarthy (2008-2018) the other ten NFC QBs to go to the SB were Manning x2, Wilson x2, Brees, Warner, Kaepernick, Newton, Ryan, Foles and Goff. Compared to the 11 AFC QBs in that time: Brady x5, Manning x3, Roethlisberger x2, Flacco. Rodgers/McCarthy let inferior QBs get past them unlike the AFC 3 did those 11 years, with 1 exception.

It's not a miracle, it's Aaron Rodgers. You want a guy to win a throwing contest then sign Rodgers up. You want a guy to lead men and make it through the adversity that comes with a SB run, you might get lucky once or twice with Rodgers. The person matters

Originally posted by captveg:
McCarthy has proven to be a solid coach that can get to the playoffs rather consistently, and Rodgers is a HoF QB who used to be able to tip the scale just enough to win close games. IMO the miracle here is that they only won one. In Rodgers' years in Green Bay as the starter under McCarthy (2008-2018) the other ten NFC QBs to go to the SB were Manning x2, Wilson x2, Brees, Warner, Kaepernick, Newton, Ryan, Foles and Goff. Compared to the 11 AFC QBs in that time: Brady x5, Manning x3, Roethlisberger x2, Flacco. Rodgers/McCarthy let inferior QBs get past them unlike the AFC 3 did those 11 years, with 1 exception.

it was one of the only years Rodgers and GB had an elite defense to pair with the Rodgers led offense.

It takes a team to win the SB. No QB does it alone. Highly doubt there's a QB in the league that carries this year's Niners to the SB.