Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:Originally posted by TheWooLick:What if he wants a better deal than Love got?
i'd tell him go find it.
OK and what would the 49ers do?
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:Originally posted by TheWooLick:What if he wants a better deal than Love got?
i'd tell him go find it.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Let's just all be respectful to each other and look beyond the b******t. There's all kinds of age groups in here, let's all try acting like adults. And Go, Niners, go!
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Let's just all be respectful to each other and look beyond the b******t. There's all kinds of age groups in here, let's all try acting like adults. And Go, Niners, go!
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
What if he wants a better deal than Love got?
i'd tell him go find it.
OK and what would the 49ers do?
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
What if he wants a better deal than Love got?
i'd tell him go find it.
OK and what would the 49ers do?
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
What if he wants a better deal than Love got?
i'd tell him go find it.
OK and what would the 49ers do?
Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
Reported today by close 49'er Insiders 49'ers are going to try and lowball Brock.
I think this is great news because Brock will sign anything after his poor year.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Furlow:
It was clearly broken down in here that the Love and Dak deals aren't far apart. Dak simply had money carried over from his previous deal. And Dak's bad deal could have been avoided if the Cowboys extended him early. But they waited, and are now paying more. Which coincidentally you and others are saying to do. Bottom line is we either decide he's our guy and pay him now or trade him.
Who broke it down?
they are not close to the same. Dak has practical guarantees of $230M , love is $160M. From what I remember Dak was in the last yr of his deal and has no GTD cash left. Not sure what he was carrying over?
Dak's cap hit this next 3 yrs
$90M, $68M, $62M before they can think about moving on.
love's cap hit the next 3 yrs
$29M, $36M, $42M (and they can move on that season).
Also the difference with those two is they got paid coming of one of their best seasons.
Originally posted by Typecast:
Originally posted by NYniner85:Structurally, the Dak and Love contracts aren't too different.
Hence why I constantly say no to Dak money. Again look at HIS deal. It is not fluff made up money. He's getting most of that cash. Same with Burrow.
love's deal is basically a 3 yr $163m deal if GB wants it to be. There's fluff to make the total look bigger. Cool do that with Brock.
Dak's deal is basically a 4 yr $236M deal, A LOT of that s**t is GTD his cap hits the next 3 yrs is $90M, $68M, $61M and it's real money, not massive cap hits with no GTD cash.
- Dak
- 269M in total cash over 5 years, 231M practically guaranteed
- 2024 - 81.25M gtd at signing
- 2025 - 47.75M gtd at signing
- 2026 - 40M guarantees 3/25
- 2027 - 45M guarantees 3/26
- 2028 - 17M guarantees 3/27. 38M remaining is never-guaranteed
- Love
- 231M in total cash over 5 years, 160.3M practically guaranteed
- 2024 - 79M gtd at signing
- 2025 - 13M gtd at signing
- 2026 - 51M, 10.4M gtd at signing, 40.1M remainder guarantees 3/25
- 2027 - 20M, guarantees 3/26. 23M remaining is never guaranteed
- 2028 - 45M is never guaranteed.
The problem with Dak's deal was that his previous deal had 29M in salary left and 66.9M in unaccounted for cap allocations. The Cowboys are still paying for the mistake of not extending Dak early the last time around. Love only carried over 11M in compensation (salary + workout bonus) and 7M in unaccounted for cap allocations. Love's deal simply has 1 full season less guaranteed and 18M less still owed from the previous contract.
The cap hits on Dak's deal is a product of the unaccounted for cap allocations that resulted from Dak's previous deal. The Cowboys are still paying the price for not extending Dak's rookie contract and waiting to the point that his deal was a completely new contract. Giving Dak the free franchise tag credit in 2021 also didn't help.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
What if he wants a better deal than Love got?
i'd tell him go find it.
OK and what would the 49ers do?
i answered that one. we gotta stop pooh pooing 200m like it's nothing. at 200m over 5, he's the highest paid 49er in team history. he's the highest paid member of the team. he's one of the top 20 or so paid players in the NFL. it's major major dollars.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Ignored it? I live in NY it's like 12:30 when that got posted (I just looked back).
$230M in practical gtds is not the same as $160M in practical gtds.
their cap hits the next 3 yrs are not remotely the same. From what I read he didn't have much GTD cash left on the last yr of his deal that amount to some crazy carryover? Maybe I've miss read there.
Of course burrow will be restructured. He's a young elite level QB in the league. Brock is gonna have to get to that type of consistency for SF to restructure. If not it's a problem.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
If you paid attention to the stuff they said to me you'd understand where I'm coming from…like I've said to YOU and others. I will respect you as much as you respect me. That's really not a hard thing to grasp. Yet here I am telling you it yet again. I'm NEVER the one who starts with the personal stuff in here.
disagreeing is totally fine. Disagreeing because you dislike me or think I have some ulterior motive all the time is childish. So I will treat you like a child.
If you can't handle a New Yorker that swears that's not my problem.
Originally posted by Furlow:
Dude, he replied to YOU directly:
This is why you keep getting called out in this thread. We all remember you going on and on for months about Purdy's lack of measurables and how he wasn't going to be able to sustain his success. Then he had an MVP level season and you were silent. Now he struggled a bit this season (the whole team did, and was injured) and you're back at it with your measurables nonsense.
You have never "liked Purdy" nor thought he was a franchise QB. You have never been shy about wanting a tall, big armed QB. Which is totally fine if you do, but just own it. Stop hiding behind this contract nonsense because you're all over the place about it. and even when it's CLEARLY explained to you like it was above, you ignore it and keep going on and on about "I just don't him to get a Dak contract."
If you truly don't want a Dak contract situation, then pay him now and don't push for him to play out his rookie deal - because that's exactly what will lead to a Dak situation.
Originally posted by 49ers808: