QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Furlow:
Dude, he replied to YOU directly:

This is why you keep getting called out in this thread. We all remember you going on and on for months about Purdy's lack of measurables and how he wasn't going to be able to sustain his success. Then he had an MVP level season and you were silent. Now he struggled a bit this season (the whole team did, and was injured) and you're back at it with your measurables nonsense.

You have never "liked Purdy" nor thought he was a franchise QB. You have never been shy about wanting a tall, big armed QB. Which is totally fine if you do, but just own it. Stop hiding behind this contract nonsense because you're all over the place about it. and even when it's CLEARLY explained to you like it was above, you ignore it and keep going on and on about "I just don't him to get a Dak contract."

If you truly don't want a Dak contract situation, then pay him now and don't push for him to play out his rookie deal - because that's exactly what will lead to a Dak situation.

Dude it was at 12:30 at night on the east coast. I'm not gonna go back multiple pages and see what's what. I don't have notifications set anymore either.

I wasn't silent and posted in here quite a bit, I was overall very positive. You can makeup whatever you want to make you feel good about a narrative, regardless of how hard you try it doesn't make it a fact. Understand that. Now if you want to talk about something besides ME cool. I will not be continuing down that road. So get over it and move on. Or get muted.

Why are you deleting his post which explains the Dak contract????

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
Reported today by close 49'er Insiders 49'ers are going to try and lowball Brock.

I think this is great news because Brock will sign anything after his poor year.

Link or we are going to assume you are talking out of your a**, per usual.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Furlow:
It was clearly broken down in here that the Love and Dak deals aren't far apart. Dak simply had money carried over from his previous deal. And Dak's bad deal could have been avoided if the Cowboys extended him early. But they waited, and are now paying more. Which coincidentally you and others are saying to do. Bottom line is we either decide he's our guy and pay him now or trade him.

Who broke it down?

they are not close to the same. Dak has practical guarantees of $230M , love is $160M. From what I remember Dak was in the last yr of his deal and has no GTD cash left. Not sure what he was carrying over?

Dak's cap hit this next 3 yrs

$90M, $68M, $62M before they can think about moving on.

love's cap hit the next 3 yrs

$29M, $36M, $42M (and they can move on that season).

Also the difference with those two is they got paid coming of one of their best seasons.

Dude, he replied to YOU directly:

Originally posted by Typecast:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Hence why I constantly say no to Dak money. Again look at HIS deal. It is not fluff made up money. He's getting most of that cash. Same with Burrow.

love's deal is basically a 3 yr $163m deal if GB wants it to be. There's fluff to make the total look bigger. Cool do that with Brock.

Dak's deal is basically a 4 yr $236M deal, A LOT of that s**t is GTD his cap hits the next 3 yrs is $90M, $68M, $61M and it's real money, not massive cap hits with no GTD cash.

Structurally, the Dak and Love contracts aren't too different.

• Dak
  • 269M in total cash over 5 years, 231M practically guaranteed
    • 2024 - 81.25M gtd at signing
    • 2025 - 47.75M gtd at signing
    • 2026 - 40M guarantees 3/25
    • 2027 - 45M guarantees 3/26
    • 2028 - 17M guarantees 3/27. 38M remaining is never-guaranteed
• Love
  • 231M in total cash over 5 years, 160.3M practically guaranteed
    • 2024 - 79M gtd at signing
    • 2025 - 13M gtd at signing
    • 2026 - 51M, 10.4M gtd at signing, 40.1M remainder guarantees 3/25
    • 2027 - 20M, guarantees 3/26. 23M remaining is never guaranteed
    • 2028 - 45M is never guaranteed.

The problem with Dak's deal was that his previous deal had 29M in salary left and 66.9M in unaccounted for cap allocations. The Cowboys are still paying for the mistake of not extending Dak early the last time around. Love only carried over 11M in compensation (salary + workout bonus) and 7M in unaccounted for cap allocations. Love's deal simply has 1 full season less guaranteed and 18M less still owed from the previous contract.

The cap hits on Dak's deal is a product of the unaccounted for cap allocations that resulted from Dak's previous deal. The Cowboys are still paying the price for not extending Dak's rookie contract and waiting to the point that his deal was a completely new contract. Giving Dak the free franchise tag credit in 2021 also didn't help.

This is why you keep getting called out in this thread.

Bump so everyone can see that Dak's contract was clearly explained to NY. Today he pretended to never see it, and now he's saying it's because of the time difference. Except once he did see it, he deleted it and didn't address the post.

You might be fooling some people, but not me (or charliesheen lol).

Very interesting!
However, there is one thing I will lay odds on. No matter how the Niners secretly feel, they will OVERPAY and subsequent performance will not match the outlay.
That is the one recurring theme in this administration's negotiating style.

BTW, my personal opinion FWIW is that Purdy is certainly a top ten QB in this league. He mare than makes up for his physical limitations by his calmness and cerebral style of play. He is being unfairly criticized because of the position he has been put into by the coach(es) and front office.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

i'd be willing to consider $205m. that's a lot of coin.

20m
28m
out
48m
55m
54m

those could be the cap hits. ppl may so oh this isn't fair to brock, well you are guaranteeing an amount of the deal, shall we say, $75m gtd? let me know if this is doable.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
What if he wants a better deal than Love got?

i'd tell him go find it.

OK and what would the 49ers do?

i answered that one. we gotta stop pooh pooing 200m like it's nothing. at 200m over 5, he's the highest paid 49er in team history. he's the highest paid member of the team. he's one of the top 20 or so paid players in the NFL. it's major major dollars.

Just such a strange take, man. Again, it's capitalism. Any person in any industry expects to be paid what they're worth relative to their peers. Not relative to historical 49ers, not relative to your previous contract which was vastly outplayed. His peers. Focus on his peers and that is where his value lies.

i'm with you, in terms of worth vs peers. the question is how do we know who his peers are? if the league thinks he's worth dak money no question, then we'll see teams lining up to pay it. that will be the telling part of it

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Link or we are going to assume you are talking out of your a**, per usual.

Greg Papa and Tim Ryan are insiders who said Brock will for sure be lowballed.

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Link or we are going to assume you are talking out of your a**, per usual.

Greg Papa and Tim Ryan are insiders who said Brock will for sure be lowballed.

No link?

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i'd be willing to consider $205m. that's a lot of coin.

20m
28m
out
48m
55m
54m

those could be the cap hits. ppl may so oh this isn't fair to brock, well you are guaranteeing an amount of the deal, shall we say, $75m gtd? let me know if this is doable.

biggest contract in club history and ppl laugh at it. i don't get it
he would be the highest paid 49er and one of the top in the NFL

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

i'd be willing to consider $205m. that's a lot of coin.

20m
28m
out
48m
55m
54m

those could be the cap hits. ppl may so oh this isn't fair to brock, well you are guaranteeing an amount of the deal, shall we say, $75m gtd? let me know if this is doable.

biggest contract in club history and ppl laugh at it. i don't get it
he would be the highest paid 49er and one of the top in the NFL

Yea it's obvious you don't get it. That's what makes it funny.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Furlow:

It was clearly broken down in here that the Love and Dak deals aren't far apart. Dak simply had money carried over from his previous deal. And Dak's bad deal could have been avoided if the Cowboys extended him early. But they waited, and are now paying more. Which coincidentally you and others are saying to do. Bottom line is we either decide he's our guy and pay him now or trade him.

Who broke it down?

they are not close to the same. Dak has practical guarantees of $230M , love is $160M. From what I remember Dak was in the last yr of his deal and has no GTD cash left. Not sure what he was carrying over?

Dak's cap hit this next 3 yrs

$90M, $68M, $62M before they can think about moving on.

love's cap hit the next 3 yrs

$29M, $36M, $42M (and they can move on that season).

Also the difference with those two is they got paid coming of one of their best seasons.

Dude, he replied to YOU directly:

Originally posted by Typecast:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Hence why I constantly say no to Dak money. Again look at HIS deal. It is not fluff made up money. He's getting most of that cash. Same with Burrow.

love's deal is basically a 3 yr $163m deal if GB wants it to be. There's fluff to make the total look bigger. Cool do that with Brock.

Dak's deal is basically a 4 yr $236M deal, A LOT of that s**t is GTD his cap hits the next 3 yrs is $90M, $68M, $61M and it's real money, not massive cap hits with no GTD cash.

Structurally, the Dak and Love contracts aren't too different.

• Dak
  
  269M in total cash over 5 years, 231M practically guaranteed
  
  2024 - 81.25M gtd at signing
• 2025 - 47.75M gtd at signing
• 2026 - 40M guarantees 3/25
• 2027 - 45M guarantees 3/26
• 2028 - 17M guarantees 3/27. 38M remaining is never-guaranteed

Love

231M in total cash over 5 years, 160.3M practically guaranteed

2024 - 79M gtd at signing
• 2025 - 13M gtd at signing
• 2026 - 51M, 10.4M gtd at signing, 40.1M remainder guarantees 3/25
• 2027 - 20M, guarantees 3/26. 23M remaining is never guaranteed
• 2028 - 45M is never guaranteed.

The problem with Dak's deal was that his previous deal had 29M in salary left and 66.9M in unaccounted for cap allocations. The Cowboys are still paying for the mistake of not extending Dak early the last time around. Love only carried over 11M in compensation (salary + workout bonus) and 7M in unaccounted for cap allocations. Love's deal simply has 1 full season less guaranteed and 18M less still owed from the previous contract.

The cap hits on Dak's deal is a product of the unaccounted for cap allocations that resulted from Dak's previous deal. The Cowboys are still paying the price for not extending Dak's rookie contract and waiting to the point that his deal was a completely new contract. Giving Dak the free franchise tag credit in 2021 also didn't help.

This is why you keep getting called out in this thread.

Bump so everyone can see that Dak's contract was clearly explained to NY. Today he pretended to never see it, and now he's saying it's because of the time difference. Except once he did see it, he deleted it and didn't address the post.

You might be fooling some people, but not me (or charliesheen lol).

Thst post was really insightful and gave me a better perspective as to why the situations aren't comparable and highlight the benefits of getting a deal done now.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

biggest contract in club history and ppl laugh at it. i don't get it
he would be the highest paid 49er and one of the top in the NFL

Why wouldn't he get the biggest deal in club history? He is the most important player on the team.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Dude no it isn't. If he gets to that level, he gets extended/restructured. If he doesn't, we move on. It's literally that simple.

That's exactly what I said If he doesn't then yeah it is a problem.

Originally posted by Furlow:
Why are you deleting his post which explains the Dak contract????

Huh? I didn't delete anything lol. You can't delete someone else's post man,

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
biggest contract in club history and ppl laugh at it. i don't get it
he would be the highest paid 49er and one of the top in the NFL

Why wouldn't he get the biggest deal in club history? He is the most important player on the team.

this would be the biggest deal. that is what i am saying. no need to mock it. what are we trying to do here? drive our price up to the moon? how about we all put our numbers down, and we can revisit when the time comes?