QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Typecast:
Mahomes signed his contract July 6th, 2020. It's been nearly 5 years. Below is a list of all the QBs in the 45M+ AAV club. nAAV is the new cash AAV. tAAV is the total cash AAV over the entire contract. Finally is the total cash value of the contract over the total unadjusted league cap total over the life the contract. I'm presuming the year-to-year cap growth of future years is 7%.

• Patrick Mahomes, Chiefs, 2020-31, 45M nAAV, 39.8M tAAV, 477.6M/3.434B (13.91%)
• Aaron Rodgers, Packers, 2022-26, 50.3M nAAV, 37.4M tAAV, 186.8M/1.254B (14.89%)
• Deshaun Watson, Browns, 2022-26, 46M nAAV, 46M tAAV, 230M/1.254B (18.34%)
• Kyler Murray, Cardinals, 2022-28, 46.1M nAAV, 38M tAAV, 265.7M/1.902B (13.86%)
• Russell Wilson, Broncos, 2022-28, 48.5M nAAV, 42.3M tAAV, 296M/1.902B (15.56%)
• Jalen Hurts, Eagles, 2023-28, 51M nAAV, 43.2M tAAV, 259.3M/1.694B (15.31%)
• Lamar Jackson, Ravens, 2023-27, 52M nAAV, 52M tAAV, 260M/1.359B (19.14%)
• Justin Herbert, Chargers, 2023-29, 52.5M nAAV, 42.3M tAAV, 296.2M/2.052B (14.44%)
• Joe Burrow, Bengals, 2023-29, 55M nAAV, 44.3M tAAV, 310M/2.052B (15.11%)
• Kirk Cousins, Falcons, 2024-27, 45M nAAV, 45M tAAV, 180M/1.134B (15.87%)
• Jared Goff, Lions, 2024-28, 2024-28, 53M nAAV, 48.1M tAAV, 240.6M/1.469B (16.38%)
• Trevor Lawrence, Jaguars, 2024-30, 55M nAAV, 43.8M tAAV, 306.3M/2.210B (13.86%)
• Tua Tagovailoa, Dolphins, 2024-28, 53.1M nAAV, 47.1M tAAV, 235.6M/1.469B (16.04%)
• Jordan Love, Packers, 2024-28, 55M nAAV, 46.2M tAAV, 231M/1.469B (15.73%)
• Dak Prescott, Cowboys, 2024-28, 60M nAAV, 54.8M tAAV, 274M/1.469B (18.66%)

NFL Franchise QBs have NFL Franchise QB price tags. These guys are expensive to keep. The cap continues to grow and so will QB contracts. The QB contract market is essentially 5 tiers at this point. Franchise QB tier (55M+), retiring Franchise QB tier (40-50M), QBs that need to prove themselves (30-45M), journeymen (<20M), and rookie wage scale contracts.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
I think part of the fan base is skeptical of paying brock a substantial amount because they don't believe in Kyle and John hitting on draft picks.

Therefore, we would need to acquire talent via FA and that will become more difficult after paying Brock.

We would need Rams type drafts going forward. (They hit home runs on all their early draft picks) Many fans don't seem so confident in that happening. We believe 2024 was a good draft, but still was not at the level of Rams draft and the impact they've had.

Draft is always a crapshoot tbh, but if you can avoid having terrible ones you should be ok. Pats drafted insane for like 10 years, then the last 10 it simply wasn't nearly as good to bad and they fell off etc.

I say this past season was a reflection of the 20-23 drafts being fairly dismal and now it caught up to them. They need to replicate 24 and for sure need to hit on the higher picks more often. One could argue missing on the earlier picks has been the biggest weakness of the Kyle regime which is odd, because they are damn good just about everywhere else.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
this is a very good write up and i appreciate your time and information. i like this bottom breakdown especially of the tiers. i'll bold the tier i feel is what we have on our hands here.

this is just my opinion. i could be wrong.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
I'm predicting Brock signs a 3 year $100 million contract.

5 year $250 million.

Probably. 4 year 200 million vs 5 year 250 million with hopefully an out (if needed) after year 3 is likely the contract he should get.

the fear is he will demand 4 year 250 million vs 5 year 300 million range, and that's a bit rich for a guy that can't throw in inclement weather…

I don't think he's desperate, they'll settle somewhere in between.

They need money to extend Brendel and McKivitz!

f**k them they suck, we can replace them with draft picks. We need to lock up Dirty.

Originally posted by Typecast:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
this is a very good write up and i appreciate your time and information. i like this bottom breakdown especially of the tiers. i'll bold the tier i feel is what we have on our hands here.

this is just my opinion. i could be wrong.

I see guys like Baker, Danny Dimes, Geno, Carr, Foles, and Tyrod in that tier. Darnold has likely pushed himself into that tier. Purdy's resume has him firmly in the franchise QB tier for me.

Originally posted by Typecast:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

this is a very good write up and i appreciate your time and information. i like this bottom breakdown especially of the tiers. i'll bold the tier i feel is what we have on our hands here.

this is just my opinion. i could be wrong.

I see guys like Baker, Danny Dimes, Geno, Carr, Foles, and Tyrod in that tier. Darnold has likely pushed himself into that tier. Purdy's resume has him firmly in the franchise QB tier for me.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i view nfl as not for long. things change fast. that is a pretty scattershot group you mention. i mean foles is out of football. baker just put up 4500 and 41TDs.

brock, this is a different convo if 2023 is the season to look back on. 2024 was a down season. there is a saying, if you are debating if your guy is a elite guy, then he isn't.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
I think part of the fan base is skeptical of paying brock a substantial amount because they don't believe in Kyle and John hitting on draft picks.

Therefore, we would need to acquire talent via FA and that will become more difficult after paying Brock.

We would need Rams type drafts going forward. (They hit home runs on all their early draft picks) Many fans don't seem so confident in that happening. We believe 2024 was a good draft, but still was not at the level of Rams draft and the impact they've had.

Rams have done well on th d line and nailed Nacua in last two years. Their previous 4 years were mediocre to bad though. Outside of Kinchens however their secondary is bad as are their linebackers. O line is also hit or miss.

End of day having a top QB and a top pass rush can get you into the playoffs. Need the rest of the team to step up to win it.

Originally posted by Typecast:
I was just looking at QBs that had contracts since 2016. It's a really small group of players. Teams will just draft a guy and roll with them or sign a journeyman to hold down the position until the rookie is ready.

I'm also not debating. Nothing I say or do will impact the 49ers decision. Every indication from the team thus far is that they are all-in on him as their franchise QB. He is getting paid.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Typecast:
I was just looking at QBs that had contracts since 2016. It's a really small group of players. Teams will just draft a guy and roll with them or sign a journeyman to hold down the position until the rookie is ready.

I'm also not debating. Nothing I say or do will impact the 49ers decision. Every indication from the team thus far is that they are all-in on him as their franchise QB. He is getting paid.

i don't disagree he'll get paid. question is how much.

you kind of indicate there is no major market for brock with your bold, and i feel the same. if vegas would prefer their own rook, or some reclamation project, then we don't have to worry about a team like that bidding up for brock. so in going from 40m aav to 60m aav we simply bid against ourselves is my view.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Typecast:
I was just looking at QBs that had contracts since 2016. It's a really small group of players. Teams will just draft a guy and roll with them or sign a journeyman to hold down the position until the rookie is ready.

I'm also not debating. Nothing I say or do will impact the 49ers decision. Every indication from the team thus far is that they are all-in on him as their franchise QB. He is getting paid.

i don't disagree he'll get paid. question is how much.

you kind of indicate there is no major market for brock with your bold, and i feel the same. if vegas would prefer their own rook, or some reclamation project, then we don't have to worry about a team like that bidding up for brock. so in going from 40m aav to 60m aav we simply bid against ourselves is my view.

Originally posted by Typecast:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
biggest contract in club history and ppl laugh at it. i don't get it
he would be the highest paid 49er and one of the top in the NFL

Why wouldn't he get the biggest deal in club history? He is the most important player on the team.

this would be the biggest deal. that is what i am saying. no need to mock it. what are we trying to do here? drive our price up to the moon? how about we all put our numbers down, and we can revisit when the time comes?

If you don't know why a 5 yr 205m contact is comical I don't know what to tell you.

Wouldn't be comical to me. I would love it if Brock signed that deal

i would as well, and that would be coming a long way for sir brock. he'd be one of the highest paid NFL players. i just draw a line at him asking for more AAV than Mahomes among others. if other teams want to be crackheads like whatever cleveland is doing that is their problem. let them be the suckers.

Mahomes signed his contract July 6th, 2020. It's been nearly 5 years. Below is a list of all the QBs in the 45M+ AAV club. nAAV is the new cash AAV. tAAV is the total cash AAV over the entire contract. Finally is the total cash value of the contract over the total unadjusted league cap total over the life the contract. I'm presuming the year-to-year cap growth of future years is 7%.

• Patrick Mahomes, Chiefs, 2020-31, 45M nAAV, 39.8M tAAV, 477.6M/3.434B (13.91%)
• Aaron Rodgers, Packers, 2022-26, 50.3M nAAV, 37.4M tAAV, 186.8M/1.254B (14.89%)
• Deshaun Watson, Browns, 2022-26, 46M nAAV, 46M tAAV, 230M/1.254B (18.34%)
• Kyler Murray, Cardinals, 2022-28, 46.1M nAAV, 38M tAAV, 265.7M/1.902B (13.86%)
• Russell Wilson, Broncos, 2022-28, 48.5M nAAV, 42.3M tAAV, 296M/1.902B (15.56%)
• Jalen Hurts, Eagles, 2023-28, 51M nAAV, 43.2M tAAV, 259.3M/1.694B (15.31%)
• Lamar Jackson, Ravens, 2023-27, 52M nAAV, 52M tAAV, 260M/1.359B (19.14%)
• Justin Herbert, Chargers, 2023-29, 52.5M nAAV, 42.3M tAAV, 296.2M/2.052B (14.44%)
• Joe Burrow, Bengals, 2023-29, 55M nAAV, 44.3M tAAV, 310M/2.052B (15.11%)
• Kirk Cousins, Falcons, 2024-27, 45M nAAV, 45M tAAV, 180M/1.134B (15.87%)
• Jared Goff, Lions, 2024-28, 2024-28, 53M nAAV, 48.1M tAAV, 240.6M/1.469B (16.38%)
• Trevor Lawrence, Jaguars, 2024-30, 55M nAAV, 43.8M tAAV, 306.3M/2.210B (13.86%)
• Tua Tagovailoa, Dolphins, 2024-28, 53.1M nAAV, 47.1M tAAV, 235.6M/1.469B (16.04%)
• Jordan Love, Packers, 2024-28, 55M nAAV, 46.2M tAAV, 231M/1.469B (15.73%)
• Dak Prescott, Cowboys, 2024-28, 60M nAAV, 54.8M tAAV, 274M/1.469B (18.66%)

NFL Franchise QBs have NFL Franchise QB price tags. These guys are expensive to keep. Purdy is up now. Stroud next year. Daniels in 2027. Allen and Mahomes can redo their deals anytime they want (Allen maybe this year, Mahomes maybe in 2027). Lamar in 2026-27. The carousel of Franchise QB contracts continues to turn.

The QB contract market is essentially 5 tiers at this point. Franchise QB tier (55M+), retiring Franchise QB tier (40-50M), QBs that need to prove themselves (30-45M), journeymen (<20M), and rookie wage scale contracts.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Typecast:
I was just looking at QBs that had contracts since 2016. It's a really small group of players. Teams will just draft a guy and roll with them or sign a journeyman to hold down the position until the rookie is ready.

I'm also not debating. Nothing I say or do will impact the 49ers decision. Every indication from the team thus far is that they are all-in on him as their franchise QB. He is getting paid.

i don't disagree he'll get paid. question is how much.

you kind of indicate there is no major market for brock with your bold, and i feel the same. if vegas would prefer their own rook, or some reclamation project, then we don't have to worry about a team like that bidding up for brock. so in going from 40m aav to 60m aav we simply bid against ourselves is my view.

how do you get there is no market for Brock from that ? is Brock on the block ?

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
He will NEVER play out his contract without an extension. Nor will our team allow that.

What? We've allowed plenty of above avg players go play out their contract without an extension.

Will we risk the future of our team if he doesnt like the numbers? Or cut or trade him because we "willl not allow" a guy to fulfill what he signed to?