Originally posted by Furlow:
We already "tested him out" for 2.5 seasons. Make up your mind if you want him as your QB or not.
He regressed last year and finished last. There needs to be more testing.
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QB Brock Purdy Thread
QB Brock Purdy Thread
Jan 16, 2025 at 11:23 PM
- ninerfaninnorcal
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He regressed last year and finished last. There needs to be more testing.
Jan 16, 2025 at 11:25 PM
- picklejuice
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HC spagnula and brock purdy! 2026-2027 season
but jed wont do it.
but jed wont do it.
[ Edited by picklejuice on Jan 16, 2025 at 11:27 PM ]
Jan 16, 2025 at 11:39 PM
- Furlow
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Burrow is 6'4" and has a stronger arm than Purdy. If Purdy was 6'4" with Burrow's arm strength, I'm guessing you'd have no problem with offering him a contract in the $50m-$60m range.
Burrow's arm would make me feel better. I don't need Brock to be 6'4, though that is a nice advantage.
The point about the arm is a nuanced position. Burrow has an average, maybe above average arm… nothing special. I'm not a person who thinks you need special arm talent to be a top tier QB, and I argued that point relentlessly in favor of Brock before 2023. My point then was once you were past a minimum level of arm strength, the rest was a luxury. I also believed Purdy was right near that minimum, and now that I've seen two years I question whether he's not below the minimum. It's no issue if he's facing zones, making good reads, and throwing with elite anticipation into areas of the field. He's shown he can do that.
I honestly don't know if you like Purdy or not lol. I don't think I've seen this from you, what would you offer him right now, maximum, for an extension?
Jan 16, 2025 at 11:47 PM
- DRCHOWDER
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If Titans offered 1st pick for Purdy, would you guys do it?
Jan 16, 2025 at 11:57 PM
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Originally posted by Furlow:
I honestly don't know if you like Purdy or not lol. I don't think I've seen this from you, what would you offer him right now, maximum, for an extension?
I've said multiple times I'm just not sure what he is. I'm fully open to being shown that my concerns are unwarranted and like I said before, it was a mess around him this past season.
I don't care what the number is as much as I care about outs. I definitely want to see another year of him at QB whether it's a high contract, mid contract, we hardball his ass into playing the last year of his deal… whatever it may be.
Jan 17, 2025 at 12:03 AM
- captveg
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Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
If Titans offered 1st pick for Purdy, would you guys do it?
No chance in hell.
We have a quality QB. Stop thinking the grass is greener. Going back to searching for a QB is not a good thing.
Jan 17, 2025 at 12:32 AM
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Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
If Titans offered 1st pick for Purdy, would you guys do it?
No chance in hell.
We have a quality QB. Stop thinking the grass is greener. Going back to searching for a QB is not a good thing.
The grass is greener where you water it.
[ Edited by mayo49 on Jan 17, 2025 at 1:16 AM ]
Jan 17, 2025 at 1:39 AM
- DRCHOWDER
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Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
If Titans offered 1st pick for Purdy, would you guys do it?
No chance in hell.
We have a quality QB. Stop thinking the grass is greener. Going back to searching for a QB is not a good thing.
Same can be said, stop thinking the grass isn't greener.
#11 and #1 pick is very interesting. This is all not going to happen obviously because Titans wouldn't offer #1 for Purdy.
[ Edited by DRCHOWDER on Jan 17, 2025 at 1:40 AM ]
Jan 17, 2025 at 1:40 AM
- DRCHOWDER
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Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
If Titans offered 1st pick for Purdy, would you guys do it?
No chance in hell.
We have a quality QB. Stop thinking the grass is greener. Going back to searching for a QB is not a good thing.
The grass is greener where you water it.
Mayo gets it.
Jan 17, 2025 at 1:45 AM
- mayo49
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Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
If Titans offered 1st pick for Purdy, would you guys do it?
No chance in hell.
We have a quality QB. Stop thinking the grass is greener. Going back to searching for a QB is not a good thing.
The grass is greener where you water it.
Mayo gets it.
It's not me, it's scientifically proven.
[ Edited by mayo49 on Jan 17, 2025 at 2:14 AM ]
Jan 17, 2025 at 4:24 AM
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Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Yea there's like 10 QBs in the 50-60 mil range lol.
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Almost 1/3 of QBs average $50 mil per year. So $50 million isn't elite money.
No they aren't, cap-wise. Please stop with these old wives tales and maybe some middle ground can be found. Here, again, are the top QB Cap hits for next year:
- Dak Prescott (DAL) - $89.9 million
- Deshaun Watson (CLE) - $72.9 million
- Patrick Mahomes (KC) - $66.3 million
- Derek Carr (NO) - $51.5 million
- Matthew Stafford (LAR) - $49.7 million
- Lamar Jackson (BAL) - $43.5 million
- Jalen Hurts (PHI) - $42.0 million
- Aaron Rodgers (NYJ) - $37.5 million
- Trevor Lawrence (JAX) - $37.5 million
- Joe Burrow (CIN) - $35.3 million
I'm seeing 4 @ over $50M next year,...nowhere close to 10.
Wasn't referring to actual cap hits. Good try though, I can tell you put in some effort
So you are talking about "phantom" money these guys are unlikely to ever see?
The concern here is the money that actually affects paying other players and staying under the cap. Why are you arguing something you do not understand?
Jan 17, 2025 at 4:26 AM
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Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
It's based on the market
It's based on those player comps. Almost all of whom didn't test the market (at least publicly).
Player comps IS the market. Like it or not, that is the reality.
No. Player comps is a negotiation tactic.
The market is what others are willing to pay.
I guess that would be the open market, but that's not the market
More usage of terms u do not understand.
Jan 17, 2025 at 4:30 AM
- CharlieSheen
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Originally posted by random49er:So you are talking about "phantom" money these guys are unlikely to ever see?
The concern here is the money that actually affects paying other players and staying under the cap. Why are you arguing something you do not understand?
I was just talking about QBs that have signed 50+ mil per year contracts. There's about 10 so I guess I do know what I'm talking about
Jan 17, 2025 at 4:31 AM
- CharlieSheen
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Originally posted by random49er:More usage of terms u do not understand.
I think you're the one that doesn't understand. You guys are literally making up what the market is. The market is set by the QBs and their contracts
[ Edited by CharlieSheen on Jan 17, 2025 at 4:31 AM ]
Jan 17, 2025 at 4:31 AM
- random49er
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Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
He outplayed his contract by a mile
You wouldn't pay him back?
No. You restructure (which cant happen) or you negotiate new contracts for future earnings.
When market rates for houses double within a year of buying, no one goes back to the previous seller and pays them back.
But maybe you do business with them again?
[ Edited by random49er on Jan 17, 2025 at 4:33 AM ]