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QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by captveg:
Of course it's a boon. But it's also true that you can't just go 3-14 every year and draft a QB to try and find that guy. Coaches and other players don't survive that mentality. If you have a solid guy who may not be "THE ELITE" but is young, dedicated and still brings a notable degree of ability to your team you go with that unless there's an obvious upgrade. And the draft is NEVER an obvious upgrade, as we see every damn year. Purdy has not played so poorly that you roll that dice. If he has a year or two underperforming his talent level then maybe you take that shot in the dark in the draft again. Teams do it all the time. He won't be getting a contract that doesn't have those outs, so don't stress about it. Let the kid get his money and work his tail off this offseason, then cheer for him.

I am not advocating rolling the dice. Not yet at least. I'm advocating caution with a model that really hasn't worked in the league.

I'm also arguing against a surface reading of statistics when it comes to how good an offense, defense, or player is, but that's something that extends beyond the QB conversation.
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by elguapo:
See Phoenix's post. Context matters

Exactly

We're talking about Mahomes individual play, are we not? Nobody's arguing he doesn't have a good OL, or a top defense, or one of the greatest coaches of all time. That's why they are so successful as a team.

You're still fooling yourself if you can't recognize what a boon it is for that team to have this player. Same with the other truly elite QBs in the league. This has arguably separated the haves and the have nots in the league, in the team context, for decades.

Of course it's a boon. But it's also true that you can't just go 3-14 every year and draft a QB to try and find that guy. Coaches and other players don't survive that mentality. If you have a solid guy who may not be "THE ELITE" but is young, dedicated and still brings a notable degree of ability to your team you go with that unless there's an obvious upgrade. And the draft is NEVER an obvious upgrade, as we see every damn year. Purdy has not played so poorly that you roll that dice. If he has a year or two underperforming his talent level then maybe you take that shot in the dark in the draft again. Teams do it all the time. He won't be getting a contract that doesn't have those outs, so don't stress about it. Let the kid get his money and work his tail off this offseason, then cheer for him.

That is common sense of course it is a boon like you said. However, it is also true that his play has declined over the past couple of years that doesn't mean he's still not elite (top 3) but recently he has not done as well as he has in the past

I put Brock and CJ Stroud as top 7-8 quarterbacks, even though they both regressed this year due to their play as well as the injuries around them and other factors like coaching
[ Edited by elguapo on Jan 20, 2025 at 2:00 PM ]
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[ Edited by captveg on Jan 20, 2025 at 2:00 PM ]
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
We are about to pay a huge contract to Purdy. Purdy was picked last in the draft for a reason.

We are going to pay overs for a system QB who can't throw over a D lineman, and can't throw it 40 yards, can't rifle a ball into tight coverage, can't close out games.

How many times this season did We get to redzone, lose a LT, illegal formation penalty negating a big Deebo play. Then Purdy throws a ground ball to the FB 8 yards short of the line to gain. Miss the FG.

In all that was the reason you can't pay Purdy top dollar...between scheme/playcalling, line and QB limitations when the offense gets into 3rd and long its a train wreck.
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
How many times this season did We get to redzone, lose a LT, illegal formation penalty negating a big Deebo play. Then Purdy throws a ground ball to the FB 8 yards short of the line to gain. Miss the FG.

In all that was the reason you can't pay Purdy top dollar...between scheme/playcalling, line and QB limitations when the offense gets into 3rd and long its a train wreck.

Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
How many times this season did We get to redzone, lose a LT, illegal formation penalty negating a big Deebo play. Then Purdy throws a ground ball to the FB 8 yards short of the line to gain. Miss the FG.

In all that was the reason you can't pay Purdy top dollar...between scheme/playcalling, line and QB limitations when the offense gets into 3rd and long its a train wreck.


Ronnie, did you forget how many third and longs we converted with Brandon Aiyuk and Brock Purdy? He was a machine.
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
How many times this season did We get to redzone, lose a LT, illegal formation penalty negating a big Deebo play. Then Purdy throws a ground ball to the FB 8 yards short of the line to gain. Miss the FG.

In all that was the reason you can't pay Purdy top dollar...between scheme/playcalling, line and QB limitations when the offense gets into 3rd and long its a train wreck.


Ronnie, did you forget how many third and longs we converted with Brandon Aiyuk and Brock Purdy? He was a machine.

Never happened. Both guys suck and should be cut. No other team will even look at them if we do that. Immediate retirement.
Violins aren't going to get the job done. Its virtue signalling.

That is true. Basically, on third and long, Brandon Aiyuk and Juan Jennings were the bail outs two years ago. When Brandon Aiyuk went down with the ACL, it hurt Purdy most on 3rd and long.

This year; Purdy NEVER throws the ball away... Purdy throws into double coverage when the opposition secondary plays back...Purdy has a pop gun arm.......lots of late sacks was typical of him. Lost field position and clock by not throwing it away.
[ Edited by RonnieLott on Jan 20, 2025 at 2:12 PM ]
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Violins aren't going to get the job done. Its virtue signalling.

Purdy NEVER throws the ball away... Purdy throws into double coverage when the opposition secondary plays back...Purdy has a pop gun arm.......lots of late sacks was typical of him. Lost field position and clock by not throwing it away.

Your hyperbole is showing.
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Violins aren't going to get the job done. Its virtue signalling.

Purdy NEVER throws the ball away... Purdy throws into double coverage when the opposition secondary plays back...Purdy has a pop gun arm.......lots of late sacks was typical of him. Lost field position and clock by not throwing it away.



Seems like he's pretty average to me. right in line with Mahomes, Burrow, Love and Hurts when it comes to taking sacks.
This is a cross roads year for Brock Purdy.

We have seen a sample size of two years.

One year Purdy had CMC and Aiyuk and looked all-pro because those two players got Purdy out of trouble a lot.

The next year, without those two players, Purdy looked pedestrian.

Purdy needs All Pro players around him else he is just another game manager.
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
This is a cross roads year for Brock Purdy.

We have seen a sample size of two years.

One year Purdy had CMC and Aiyuk and looked all-pro because those two players got Purdy out of trouble a lot.

The next year, without those two players, Purdy looked pedestrian.

Purdy needs All Pro players around him else he is just another game manager.

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
This is a cross roads year for Brock Purdy.

We have seen a sample size of two years.

One year Purdy had CMC and Aiyuk and looked all-pro because those two players got Purdy out of trouble a lot.

The next year, without those two players, Purdy looked pedestrian.

Purdy needs All Pro players around him else he is just another game manager.


Y'all can laugh all you want but he isn't wrong. Hopefully Brock will look better next year with CMC or no CMC
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