QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Well I'm sure we will pay Brock going rate as he was a play away from winning the Super Bowl vs KC. He just needs to do a team friendly deal where we can build around him and help him not be cut after year three into it. If Brock wants the moon we may have to tell him to go try his luck with another club. He won't be as valued elsewhere as he is here in this system I'm willing to bet

I think we get him done on a lucrative team friendly deal early offseason

i agree. this is phrased very well. he can get his money, and we can get a reasonable deal also.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:

Dude is right , purdy is mid, he does not have a rocket arm, does not play well in bad weather games, needs a boat load of talent around him to look good , he more of a product of mccaffrey and I fear paying him a fortune

One of the best deep ball passers in 2023.

What happened this yr?

I mean, since a lot of posters seem to disregard the reasons as to why this could be the case, the only logical conclusion one could make is Brock just forgot how.

It is a stupid question.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:

Dude is right , purdy is mid, he does not have a rocket arm, does not play well in bad weather games, needs a boat load of talent around him to look good , he more of a product of mccaffrey and I fear paying him a fortune

One of the best deep ball passers in 2023.

What happened this yr?

I mean, since a lot of posters seem to disregard the reasons as to why this could be the case, the only logical conclusion one could make is Brock just forgot how.

Defenses do tend to adjust to relatively new players. That seems logical as well.

Is that the main reason you think Brock's numbers were worse this past season than 2024?

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by random49er:

#1: You naming CMC as our best player is EXACTLY what he was trying to avoid,...by calling him "most important."

You get it now??

If we want to talk importance, we can easily argue that the QB's the most important player on ANY NFL team.

i'm not interested in what someone is trying to avoid or not. i'm just sharing my view on the team and our guys.

consider mvp voting, which is essentially a QB of the year honor at this point. CMC actually was ahead of brock in mvp. he got more of the vote. i think most ppl looking at SF last year or Philly this year, would say ok this O revolves around the RB.

Some people want to talk about the team, others want to talk about other posters.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
I really think Brock's deal will be easy because the team has leverage. Either play for a million next year or not get tagged and traded and nobody outside of this club is gonna pay you $50M plus as we will. Do the Jared Goff deal and call it a day. Try to get a year three or four exit and draft a young guy to develop

lions probably sitting around wondering why they did the goff deal as we speak. QB who got outclassed by a more dynamic player. detroit had the better team, but DC had the QB playing better ball and much harder to defend.

I really hope you're not trying to pretend Brock is like Goff in this case.

Goff had the type of setup people claimed Brock had last year - dominant run game, terrific WR group and an excellent TE and unlike Brock last year he also had a dominant OL out there with him.

Yet when they put the ball in his hands and that great OL of theirs showed some cracks....Goff delivered a game that would've had people ripping Brock to shreds if he did the same.

Goff turned the ball over twice as many times in this one game alone than Brock has in his 6 playoff games starting.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Why wouldn't he get the biggest deal in club history? He is the most important player on the team.

Name the teams where their starting QB isint the most important player on the team.

It is usually the case, that's my point.

So almost all QBs should get super contracts?

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
Dude is right , purdy is mid, he does not have a rocket arm, does not play well in bad weather games, needs a boat load of talent around him to look good , he more of a product of mccaffrey and I fear paying him a fortune

One of the best deep ball passers in 2023.

What happened this yr?

I mean, since a lot of posters seem to disregard the reasons as to why this could be the case, the only logical conclusion one could make is Brock just forgot how.

Defenses do tend to adjust to relatively new players. That seems logical as well.

Is that the main reason you think Brock's numbers were worse this past season than 2024?

Was pointing out that there are other logical conclusions, clearly.

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
This is a cross roads year for Brock Purdy.

We have seen a sample size of two years.

One year Purdy had CMC and Aiyuk and looked all-pro because those two players got Purdy out of trouble a lot.

The next year, without those two players, Purdy looked pedestrian.

Purdy needs All Pro players around him else he is just another game manager.

I shouldn't have to point out to fellow 49ers fans that it wasn't only CMC and Aiyuk missing. Jordan Mason and Elijah Mitchell were both lost, and their replacement, 4th stringer and rookie Guerendo also dropped out at one stage, forcing us to scratch around for backs. The line was not quite as decimated but we lost Feliciano for the season. Trent Williams was struggling and missed a couple of games.

Purdy needs healthy players around him. Like virtually every other NFL quarterback, he needs a stable O Line. Running plays are fundamental to the team, and having the running back room emptied by injuries can't be ignored.

By the way, you may have seen a sample size of two years. Most of the rest of us have seen a sample size of 40 games. He also looked pretty good in those 9 games in 2022 that you conveniently bypass. 1374 yards 13 td's 4 INTs.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
Dude is right , purdy is mid, he does not have a rocket arm, does not play well in bad weather games, needs a boat load of talent around him to look good , he more of a product of mccaffrey and I fear paying him a fortune

One of the best deep ball passers in 2023.

What happened this yr?

I mean, since a lot of posters seem to disregard the reasons as to why this could be the case, the only logical conclusion one could make is Brock just forgot how.

Defenses do tend to adjust to relatively new players. That seems logical as well.

Is that the main reason you think Brock's numbers were worse this past season than 2024?

Was pointing out that there are other logical conclusions, clearly.

It's not logical to conclude "defenses adjusted" is the reason his deep ball accuracy wasnt as good though.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Why wouldn't he get the biggest deal in club history? He is the most important player on the team.

Name the teams where their starting QB isint the most important player on the team.

It is usually the case, that's my point.

So almost all QBs should get super contracts?

No, why would you ask that?

It is suoer common for the highest paid player on the team to be the QB. The exceptions are almost always teams with qbs on rookie deals.
Purdy will be the highest paid 49er, because that's how things work in the NFL.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Why wouldn't he get the biggest deal in club history? He is the most important player on the team.

Name the teams where their starting QB isint the most important player on the team.

It is usually the case, that's my point.

So almost all QBs should get super contracts?

Only next man up

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
Dude is right , purdy is mid, he does not have a rocket arm, does not play well in bad weather games, needs a boat load of talent around him to look good , he more of a product of mccaffrey and I fear paying him a fortune

One of the best deep ball passers in 2023.

What happened this yr?

I mean, since a lot of posters seem to disregard the reasons as to why this could be the case, the only logical conclusion one could make is Brock just forgot how.

Defenses do tend to adjust to relatively new players. That seems logical as well.

Is that the main reason you think Brock's numbers were worse this past season than 2024?

Was pointing out that there are other logical conclusions, clearly.

It's not logical to conclude "defenses adjusted" is the reason his deep ball accuracy wasnt as good though.

That's too much of a 1:1 causation there. There can be a number of factors,...and defensive adjustments to a 2nd-yr starter can certainly play a part of it. You try to take away a player's strengths.

Maybe you all the film from the whole season, though. What did you pick up?



https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/49ers-qb-brock-purdy-explains-how-defenses-have-adjusted-to-him-01j9c2w3datv

Originally posted by genus49:
I really hope you're not trying to pretend Brock is like Goff in this case.

Goff had the type of setup people claimed Brock had last year - dominant run game, terrific WR group and an excellent TE and unlike Brock last year he also had a dominant OL out there with him.

Yet when they put the ball in his hands and that great OL of theirs showed some cracks....Goff delivered a game that would've had people ripping Brock to shreds if he did the same.

Goff turned the ball over twice as many times in this one game alone than Brock has in his 6 playoff games starting.

how is he not like goff? they are both mid tier QBs who pilot loaded Os. with goff you gain some arm, and lose some mobility.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
Dude is right , purdy is mid, he does not have a rocket arm, does not play well in bad weather games, needs a boat load of talent around him to look good , he more of a product of mccaffrey and I fear paying him a fortune

One of the best deep ball passers in 2023.

What happened this yr?

I mean, since a lot of posters seem to disregard the reasons as to why this could be the case, the only logical conclusion one could make is Brock just forgot how.

Defenses do tend to adjust to relatively new players. That seems logical as well.

Is that the main reason you think Brock's numbers were worse this past season than 2024?

Was pointing out that there are other logical conclusions, clearly.

It's not logical to conclude "defenses adjusted" is the reason his deep ball accuracy wasnt as good though.

There are many reasons things happen in the NFL, why stats are so hard to breakdown in the NFL. Lots of variables.

However if a QB shows he can do something, they don't just forget as joked about earlier in this exchange. Defenses didn't adjust to Brock, they adjusted to our offense. Brock was at the very top of the NFL in air yards per attempt and completion for the bulk of the season once again but once Aiyuk got hurt it became that much harder. Even then he finished 10th in Intended Air Yards per attempt and 3rd in Air Yards per completion and 1st in Air yards per attempt.

Also this whole "he doesn't play well in bad weather games" did people watch Stafford? He struggled more in that rain game than Purdy did. And regardless of getting close vs the Eagles...he wasn't great there either.

Few QBs are great in bad weather, especially the rain. Snow games are another thing all together because a lot of the trouble is footing.

But the fact is we've had 2 rain games in the playoffs with Brock Purdy as the starter. We won both of them.

One was Brock's first playoff start where he threw for over 300 yards and 3 TDs including another on the ground and easily could've had a 4th passing TD if Aiyuk made the catch on the play we all know.

The other was last year with Deebo out of the game early and leading a game winning drive in the rain and making big plays to a guy like Chris Conley.

Yes it's a little ugly sometimes in those games but considering the circumstances, I wouldn't say he's got a major issue in bad weather, no more than some guys who are a lot more respected for their ability to play the position.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by genus49:
I really hope you're not trying to pretend Brock is like Goff in this case.

Goff had the type of setup people claimed Brock had last year - dominant run game, terrific WR group and an excellent TE and unlike Brock last year he also had a dominant OL out there with him.

Yet when they put the ball in his hands and that great OL of theirs showed some cracks....Goff delivered a game that would've had people ripping Brock to shreds if he did the same.

Goff turned the ball over twice as many times in this one game alone than Brock has in his 6 playoff games starting.

how is he not like goff? they are both mid tier QBs who pilot loaded Os. with goff you gain some arm, and lose some mobility.

Ever see Brock Purdy perform the way Goff did in the playoffs with the type of situation Goff had? No? Then that answers your question.

Goff has been a known commodity to us for a long time. Great guy, very smart and can make most throws if he has time in the pocket and there's no pressure in his face. Once you get to him a bit and it's not great.

Put Goff behind the 49ers OL last year and see how far you get.