QB Brock Purdy Thread

The Kyle Shanahan offense needs a WR that can beat man and stretch defenses vertically so everyone else can feast underneath. Andre Johnson, Pierre Garcon, Julio Jones, Brandon Aiyuk, and Nico Collins are names that come to mind. Since 2010, 7 players have averaged more than 3 yard per route run on at least 400 routes run (bold are guys who did it in a shanahan system): Victor Cruz, Andre Johnson, Julio Jones (3x), Cooper Kupp, Tyreek Hill (2x), Brandon Aiyuk, and Nico Collins. When Aiyuk went down, it fell on Kittle to stretch defenses further so Deebo, Jennings, and Pearsall could continue working the short-intermediate zones. The lack of deep threat roster depth behind Aiyuk was always a problem, which is why they brought in Terrace Marshall Jr. during Aiyuk's holdout.

Great post Typecast.

You get it more than most about Purdy/Shannhan/Offensive play calling and how we work.

The offensive play calling is horrible. Absolutely no tempo, seem to call the opposite run/pass to what seems obvious, Purdy holding the ball way too long and there is zero creativity.

Too often who is out there and alignment makes the play call so predictable.

Too many empty backfields and lack of play action for me.

I'm surprised some people here think purdy has a good arm. I understand it's a niners site and I expect a little homerism but anyone who watches purdy and is honest will say it's not very good. Absolutely a bottom 10 arm amongst starters.

That doesn't mean he's a bad QB, he does other things well, but his arm is about the bare minimum you could have to be starter in the league

Originally posted by frenchmov:
I'm surprised some people here think purdy has a good arm. I understand it's a niners site and I expect a little homerism but anyone who watches purdy and is honest will say it's not very good. Absolutely a bottom 10 arm amongst starters.

That doesn't mean he's a bad QB, he does other things well, but his arm is about the bare minimum you could have to be starter in the league

Sometimes on TV, when Purdy floats a long ball, you can see a snail in the picture traveling faster than the speed of his throw.

What would Brock's trade value be? Would it be worth rolling the dice on Rodgers like we should have with Manning or Brady? Going all in with several top picks...

Originally posted by frenchmov:

I'm surprised some people here think purdy has a good arm. I understand it's a niners site and I expect a little homerism but anyone who watches purdy and is honest will say it's not very good. Absolutely a bottom 10 arm amongst starters.

That doesn't mean he's a bad QB, he does other things well, but his arm is about the bare minimum you could have to be starter in the league

Originally posted by Since07:

What would Brock's trade value be? Would it be worth rolling the dice on Rodgers like we should have with Manning or Brady? Going all in with several top picks...

Originally posted by frenchmov:

I'm surprised some people here think purdy has a good arm. I understand it's a niners site and I expect a little homerism but anyone who watches purdy and is honest will say it's not very good. Absolutely a bottom 10 arm amongst starters.

That doesn't mean he's a bad QB, he does other things well, but his arm is about the bare minimum you could have to be starter in the league

Citing stats that say he was the best deep passer in 23 isn't the same as saying he has a strong arm. It cracks me up how you guys think we can't see that his arm isn't the strongest. Or that he's smaller stature. Or that he doesn't have long speed

People that know absolutely nothing about football can see these things lol and because those people are completely clueless they question how the hell Brock is even out there. Because they are clueless

Originally posted by Since07:

What would Brock's trade value be? Would it be worth rolling the dice on Rodgers like we should have with Manning or Brady? Going all in with several top picks...

The Jets were supposed to be a qb away. They won 7 games with garbage QBs in 23, and Jets fans were just salivating over what it was going to look like with Aaron. They won 5 games lmao

Originally posted by Since07:
What would Brock's trade value be? Would it be worth rolling the dice on Rodgers like we should have with Manning or Brady? Going all in with several top picks...

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
lol, you are naive, hiding behind 'facts'. whether a throw is 'big time' or 'turnover worthy' is a matter of who is counting and what their criteria is. you can task 10 companies to identify and come up with advanced stats on all QB big time throws, and turnover worthy throws, and the 10 firms will give you 10 different sets of 'facts'. cuz it's a subjective matter, at the end of the day. imo there's probably too much going on in 11 v 11 football for the advanced stats to give you the full story. just watch the games and you can see who is executing and who isn't.

We could look at the stats for passes that traveled 20+ yards. Those aren't subjective at all.

Can you cite any other sets of facts?

2023. What a year. Let's just skip over 2024 and talk 2023 stuff all day instead.

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Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
Dude is right , purdy is mid, he does not have a rocket arm, does not play well in bad weather games, needs a boat load of talent around him to look good , he more of a product of mccaffrey and I fear paying him a fortune

One of the best deep ball passers in 2023.

What happened this yr?

I mean, since a lot of posters seem to disregard the reasons as to why this could be the case, the only logical conclusion one could make is Brock just forgot how.

Defenses do tend to adjust to relatively new players. That seems logical as well.

Is that the main reason you think Brock's numbers were worse this past season than 2024?

Was pointing out that there are other logical conclusions, clearly.

It's not logical to conclude "defenses adjusted" is the reason his deep ball accuracy wasnt as good though.

That's too much of a 1:1 causation there. There can be a number of factors,...and defensive adjustments to a 2nd-yr starter can certainly play a part of it. You try to take away a player's strengths.

Maybe you all the film from the whole season, though. What did you pick up?



https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/49ers-qb-brock-purdy-explains-how-defenses-have-adjusted-to-him-01j9c2w3datv

Thank you for the article that doesnt really address anything about teams adjusting to Brock's deep ball.

Hide from the premise if it makes you feel better,... lol.

The premise is deep ball accuracy. Nothing the defense did was making Brock unable to connect as efficiently on open deep throws like he was in 2023. Not connecting on an open target has nothing to do with what the defense is doing.

You are suggesting that, if it is a given that teams have clearly worked to play us differently and been successful at it -- something Brock acknowledged after 4 games -- that this cannot possibly affect deep passing efficiency?

Are you thinking about what you are saying?

It's as if "less effective" and "less effective down the field" are on different islands.... and 1st down has no relation to 2nd & 3rd.

Just stop here. You've been given logical explanations...and they can all happen at the same time too.

Originally posted by frenchmov:
I'm surprised some people here think purdy has a good arm. I understand it's a niners site and I expect a little homerism but anyone who watches purdy and is honest will say it's not very good. Absolutely a bottom 10 arm amongst starters.

That doesn't mean he's a bad QB, he does other things well, but his arm is about the bare minimum you could have to be starter in the league

Let's see your list to discuss your hypothesis.