QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
on that joseph pick he's sitting on the in breaking intermediate route. no real respect for a throw over the top. teams don't defend QBs the same. safeties probably play that different vs mahomes or j daniels. guys who throw a better deep ball for example.

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Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
Purdy deserved to get paid the moment he stepped in mid-game with scout team reps and beat the Dolphins. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU ABSOLUTELY WAS SURE OUR SEASON WAS OVER THE MOMENT JIMMY WENT DOWN. INCLUDING YOURS TRULY.

For the record, I said the greatest Mr. Irrelevant story in the history of the NFL was about to begin. Sure, my rationale was to be positive because of a "why not?" shoulder shrug, but at least I spun the "our season is probably over" vibe into a "maybe we'll see a good surprise" one.

like 3 drives later i said to my wife this kid is f'in better than Jimmy and Trey wtf was he doing on the bench?

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
on that joseph pick he's sitting on the in breaking intermediate route. no real respect for a throw over the top. teams don't defend QBs the same. safeties probably play that different vs mahomes or j daniels. guys who throw a better deep ball for example.

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well do we have agreement or not. did you think that in 2021 and you don't think it now?

Originally posted by genus49:
Dude what are you babbling about? What are seeing about the Lions game? One pick was just a throw that got away from Purdy, happens to every QB regardless of arm strength. The second pick was Brock not looking off the safety at all and making a bad decision. Once again...nothing to do with arm strength.

I've asked you many times in here to give me actual plays where his lack of arm strength led to inability to run this offense. Every example you've brought up has nothing to do with arm strength.

I honestly don't know what point you're trying to make.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
on that joseph pick he's sitting on the in breaking intermediate route. no real respect for a throw over the top. teams don't defend QBs the same. safeties probably play that different vs mahomes or j daniels. guys who throw a better deep ball for example.

More analysis that didn't exist in 2021

well do we have agreement or not. did you think that in 2021 and you don't think it now?

it's more of you're over exaggerating.. because of butthurt

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
well do we have agreement or not. did you think that in 2021 and you don't think it now?

No because I have seen Brock throw down the field plenty. Jimmy didn't at all. Big difference.

If anything Brock needs to throw the deep ball less and take the check down.

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by genus49:
Dude what are you babbling about? What are seeing about the Lions game? One pick was just a throw that got away from Purdy, happens to every QB regardless of arm strength. The second pick was Brock not looking off the safety at all and making a bad decision. Once again...nothing to do with arm strength.

I've asked you many times in here to give me actual plays where his lack of arm strength led to inability to run this offense. Every example you've brought up has nothing to do with arm strength.

Is Brock Purdy one of the worst deep ball passers in the league? pic.twitter.com/9ozyyyIOk9

— Bando (@BandoKnowsBall) December 17, 2024

I honestly don't know what point you're trying to make.

i recall him having a rough one in that game. ppl need to take off the homer goggles. this 'oh he's the best deep ball thrower' takes are just flat ridiculous.

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by genus49:
Dude what are you babbling about? What are seeing about the Lions game? One pick was just a throw that got away from Purdy, happens to every QB regardless of arm strength. The second pick was Brock not looking off the safety at all and making a bad decision. Once again...nothing to do with arm strength.

I've asked you many times in here to give me actual plays where his lack of arm strength led to inability to run this offense. Every example you've brought up has nothing to do with arm strength.

Is Brock Purdy one of the worst deep ball passers in the league? pic.twitter.com/9ozyyyIOk9

— Bando (@BandoKnowsBall) December 17, 2024

I honestly don't know what point you're trying to make.

Just horrendous examples of what genus was asking for. SMFH.

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
That's literally the last 3 games of the season where Purdy needs to be clutch and has thrown picks to essentially end the game. That's just a fact.

I want him to be the QB, but if he's gonna make 50m+/year, dude needs to be clutch. Otherwise, it's gotta be less to sign other talent.

50m/year is so off the market.

The question isn't, "is Brock worth 50m? 60m?" Nobody is.

The question is what is his market value?

If Josh Allen were to hit the open market, he would get 70 or 80m. He won't hit the open market though because if he and the Bills were at a stand-off, they can exclusive franchise him at 55, then pay 120% that value the next year, which is 66. So, the franchise tag will keep him at the top of the league but won't let it explode a single season - and their team won't pay it.

If Brock hits the open market he would get top money. The market has shown that, time and time again with players.

So this whole, "Brock isn't worth that." Yes, he is because his market value would be that. We can go through a long litany of QB's haven't performed nearly as well as Brock who've been paid top-market value.

Free agent value isn't determined by where someone was drafted, it's how they played.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by genus49:
Dude what are you babbling about? What are seeing about the Lions game? One pick was just a throw that got away from Purdy, happens to every QB regardless of arm strength. The second pick was Brock not looking off the safety at all and making a bad decision. Once again...nothing to do with arm strength.

I've asked you many times in here to give me actual plays where his lack of arm strength led to inability to run this offense. Every example you've brought up has nothing to do with arm strength.

Is Brock Purdy one of the worst deep ball passers in the league? pic.twitter.com/9ozyyyIOk9

— Bando (@BandoKnowsBall) December 17, 2024

I honestly don't know what point you're trying to make.

i recall him having a rough one in that game. ppl need to take off the homer goggles. this 'oh he's the best deep ball thrower' takes are just flat ridiculous.

idk who would be the best, but brock is up there.. not the best, but up there

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Purdy has never been known for his arm strength. It was one factor that kept him from beeing drafted. His gutsy play and ability to process what he sees on the field allow him to compete. I thought hs arm strength looked worse after that elbow injury last season so I wonder if he was 100% down the stretch.

it just limits the offense when the throws are consistently short or over the intermediate middle. the D they start shading toward that middle on the stem of the route and breaking on that stuff. see the lions game for example. so i see another red flag. the league adjusts and they started limiting or punishing what brock does well based on his tendencies.

Dude what are you babbling about? What are seeing about the Lions game? One pick was just a throw that got away from Purdy, happens to every QB regardless of arm strength. The second pick was Brock not looking off the safety at all and making a bad decision. Once again...nothing to do with arm strength.

I've asked you many times in here to give me actual plays where his lack of arm strength led to inability to run this offense. Every example you've brought up has nothing to do with arm strength.

on that joseph pick he's sitting on the in breaking intermediate route. no real respect for a throw over the top. teams don't defend QBs the same. safeties probably play that different vs mahomes or j daniels. guys who throw a better deep ball for example.

That wasn't a deep middle safety sitting on an intermediate route. The Lions went invert-2 and he was the MIKE, his assignment was intermediate over the middle, not deep.

Both those picks Pearsall was running the same route and ran them two different ways.

First, he came back to the ball instead of drifting down field hence the ball too deep and too left. It was also more of a footwork issue that has popped its head with Purdy on a few throws over the years.

The 2nd pick was the same route(drift) and Pearsall drifted down the field and the MIKE zone undercut the route.

On both picks you could see Brock throw his arms up as he clearly expected Pearsall to run it differently. That's what happens when guys don't practice together and only get walk throughs.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
I am hopeful he doesn't end up waiting like Elway or never winning like Marino.

If he can have even half of the careers these 2 had,...i'm sure he'll be very appreciative.

I mean Joe Flacco won one @ 25 yrs old but I'd NEVER put him next to those 2 names above for ANYTHING.

Originally posted by jonnydel:
If Brock hits the open market he would get top money. The market has shown that, time and time again with players.

The only point of contention is here. "Players" doesn't refer to a SPECIFIC player. They're all individuals and they all are seen differently. Some guys have expected contract offers, only to never play again in the NFL.

Originally posted by jonnydel:
50m/year is so off the market.

The question isn't, "is Brock worth 50m? 60m?" Nobody is.

The question is what is his market value?

If Josh Allen were to hit the open market, he would get 70 or 80m. He won't hit the open market though because if he and the Bills were at a stand-off, they can exclusive franchise him at 55, then pay 120% that value the next year, which is 66. So, the franchise tag will keep him at the top of the league but won't let it explode a single season - and their team won't pay it.

If Brock hits the open market he would get top money. The market has shown that, time and time again with players.

So this whole, "Brock isn't worth that." Yes, he is because his market value would be that. We can go through a long litany of QB's haven't performed nearly as well as Brock who've been paid top-market value.

Free agent value isn't determined by where someone was drafted, it's how they played.

do we think josh allen and brock are similar players or on similar wavelength in terms of how good they are?

frankly if brock is worth a record breaking deal per the market (and i doubt that), let's find a new QB. you can get a guy in here like daniel jones, who is bigger, athletic, better arm, he's 6'5 230 and can hit all the nfl throws. he would cost like 1 year 10 mil. shanny gets the most out of QBs ok let's get a reclamation project and roll with that. better than paying 6 years $375m to a limited guy imo who is being valued richly cuz the club is doing a lot of the heavy lifting. this team has options and shouldn't feel obliged to jump off the cliff cuz other franchises have done so. he's coming off a down year, with his passes lacking zip and we won 6 games. let's pay him the richest deal in the nfl isn't it. almost like we've done this before folks. in fact, if he's worth the richest deal, well you would think we could flip him for multiple ones or something, right?

these are just my takes and as always, i could be wrong

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
50m/year is so off the market.

The question isn't, "is Brock worth 50m? 60m?" Nobody is.

The question is what is his market value?

If Josh Allen were to hit the open market, he would get 70 or 80m. He won't hit the open market though because if he and the Bills were at a stand-off, they can exclusive franchise him at 55, then pay 120% that value the next year, which is 66. So, the franchise tag will keep him at the top of the league but won't let it explode a single season - and their team won't pay it.

If Brock hits the open market he would get top money. The market has shown that, time and time again with players.

So this whole, "Brock isn't worth that." Yes, he is because his market value would be that. We can go through a long litany of QB's haven't performed nearly as well as Brock who've been paid top-market value.

Free agent value isn't determined by where someone was drafted, it's how they played.

these are just my takes and as always, i could be wrong

could be?.. just stick to your jimmy thread