QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
The league is top heavy now with the heavy hitters being in the AFC. People say parity, but all it has done is magnify having a great qb. The rules and refs don't help either. If defenses were able to play like back in the 80's Brady would have retired at 35.

What I don't get are the folks against paying Purdy. What is their alternative?

Just draft the next Mahomes of course. Easy peasy.

i guess the lesson is always keep searching. we should have been searching in 2017 and 2020. for some reason we felt like we were 'good enough'. but we were not. we probably deserve to watch kc win all the rings. you don't call out the right name on draft day and you let another team land that guy welp we see what happens. now if we learned the 2017 lesson maybe we land brady and we win instead of tampa. seems we have to keep learning this lesson until it sinks in.

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by mayo49:
I just hate the belittling of Brock. He's not Mahomes or Allen, but he's good enough for what we need. That guy got made because he thought I was directing that at him. Miscommunication is the center of a lot of s**t in life.

If he was "good enough" this season 49ers make the playoffs. We all hope he gets back to 2023 Brock.

Give him the Chiefs defense and special teams and I can guarantee you he would've been good enough to make the playoffs.

People love to overlook the drastic regression injury related or otherwise this year all around Brock save a handful of players and pretend other QBs would somehow make chicken salad out of that chicken sh*t.

In close, one-score games, the 2024 San Francisco 49ers went 2-6. In games decided by a field goal or less, the 49ers went 1-3.

KC just won its NFL record 17th straight game decided by one score.

and.. lol

one team decimated by injury and one team at full strength (still had a down year) .. why would you ignore that to make this weak take

You are just full of excuses huh

uh no, just not ignorant to football

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by mayo49:
I just hate the belittling of Brock. He's not Mahomes or Allen, but he's good enough for what we need. That guy got made because he thought I was directing that at him. Miscommunication is the center of a lot of s**t in life.

If he was "good enough" this season 49ers make the playoffs. We all hope he gets back to 2023 Brock.

Give him the Chiefs defense and special teams and I can guarantee you he would've been good enough to make the playoffs.

People love to overlook the drastic regression injury related or otherwise this year all around Brock save a handful of players and pretend other QBs would somehow make chicken salad out of that chicken sh*t.

In close, one-score games, the 2024 San Francisco 49ers went 2-6. In games decided by a field goal or less, the 49ers went 1-3.

KC just won its NFL record 17th straight game decided by one score.

You do realize having a good defense and special teams helps win those types of games right?

The 3 losses you mention in 3 point games were 3 of our divisional losses.

Rams - Moody missed a FG late to make it a two score game. Bell dropped a dime from Purdy to get us into game winning FG range and the defense gave up a 10 point lead in the 4th.

Arizona - Moody being unable to kick the ball for a touchback produces a big return on which he gets injured and we have no proper kicking game in the 2nd half. Defense can't hold another 10 point lead. Mason fumbles in the redzone.

Seattle - Defense can't hold the lead late.

You can say whatever you want about Purdy but had he had the support on defense and special teams a lot of those close games get flipped from Ls to Ws.

And it's stupid to bring up their respective records because the implication was it's all Mahomes. They just won a 1 score game...why? Cuz their defense made enough plays to hold a 3 point lead.

Sometimes that's the difference between the QB being praised as a winner and damned for choking/blowing the game.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by mayo49:
I just hate the belittling of Brock. He's not Mahomes or Allen, but he's good enough for what we need. That guy got made because he thought I was directing that at him. Miscommunication is the center of a lot of s**t in life.

If he was "good enough" this season 49ers make the playoffs. We all hope he gets back to 2023 Brock.

Give him the Chiefs defense and special teams and I can guarantee you he would've been good enough to make the playoffs.

People love to overlook the drastic regression injury related or otherwise this year all around Brock save a handful of players and pretend other QBs would somehow make chicken salad out of that chicken sh*t.

In close, one-score games, the 2024 San Francisco 49ers went 2-6. In games decided by a field goal or less, the 49ers went 1-3.

KC just won its NFL record 17th straight game decided by one score.

and.. lol

one team decimated by injury and one team at full strength (still had a down year) .. why would you ignore that to make this weak take

You are just full of excuses huh

uh no, just not ignorant to football

Oh ok...Injuries it is then. That's all it was... Nothing else. So you were okay with Nick Sorensen or Brandon Staley running the D because how could they do the job effectively will all the injuries on defense. With a healthy defense everything will be okay. Brock was great this season. If 49ers could just stay healthy he would have another MVP season. Regression? No. How could he compete with just Deebo and Kittle. He needs 4 Pro Bowlers to throw to, not just 2!

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
The league is top heavy now with the heavy hitters being in the AFC. People say parity, but all it has done is magnify having a great qb. The rules and refs don't help either. If defenses were able to play like back in the 80's Brady would have retired at 35.

What I don't get are the folks against paying Purdy. What is their alternative?

Just draft the next Mahomes of course. Easy peasy.

i guess the lesson is always keep searching. we should have been searching in 2017 and 2020. for some reason we felt like we were 'good enough'. but we were not. we probably deserve to watch kc win all the rings. you don't call out the right name on draft day and you let another team land that guy welp we see what happens. now if we learned the 2017 lesson maybe we land brady and we win instead of tampa. seems we have to keep learning this lesson until it sinks in.

No the lesson is when you have a proven QB who can help your team win games then you keep him around.

And stop with the hindsight garbage. You were team Jimmy all the way. I was myself on board for most of that time and Jimmy never produced at the level of Brock, especially where they were in their respective careers.

It's one thing to keep an open mind and bring in guys to develop but there is absolutely no reason to go all in on a QB right now and I think the team learned that lesson in a hard way.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
The league is top heavy now with the heavy hitters being in the AFC. People say parity, but all it has done is magnify having a great qb. The rules and refs don't help either. If defenses were able to play like back in the 80's Brady would have retired at 35.

What I don't get are the folks against paying Purdy. What is their alternative?

Just draft the next Mahomes of course. Easy peasy.

i guess the lesson is always keep searching. we should have been searching in 2017 and 2020. for some reason we felt like we were 'good enough'. but we were not. we probably deserve to watch kc win all the rings. you don't call out the right name on draft day and you let another team land that guy welp we see what happens. now if we learned the 2017 lesson maybe we land brady and we win instead of tampa. seems we have to keep learning this lesson until it sinks in.

No the lesson is when you have a proven QB who can help your team win games then you keep him around.

And stop with the hindsight garbage. You were team Jimmy all the way. I was myself on board for most of that time and Jimmy never produced at the level of Brock, especially where they were in their respective careers.

It's one thing to keep an open mind and bring in guys to develop but there is absolutely no reason to go all in on a QB right now and I think the team learned that lesson in a hard way.

I was with Jimmy until 2019 when he basically s**t the bed in the 4th quarter of the SB. I said he had his chance and missed it, and I was right. (I got s**t for that stance too)

I guess similar could be said for Purdy (and Kyle tbh lol), but I feel he is still young with a lot of improvement to be had and has made plays/had games Jimmy never imagined doing. That being said he was not as good this year.

Purdy will get paid and some will not be happy, but I believe it will be done in a team friendly way.

Originally posted by genus49:

And it's stupid to bring up their respective records because the implication was it's all Mahomes. They just won a 1 score game...why? Cuz their defense made enough plays to hold a 3 point lead.

So in a game that KC won 32-29. You are going to say it was because of the defense and not Mahomes with 3 TDs? I am not here to try and argue defense isn't important because it is. But 49ers have lost two Superbowl's with top 10 defenses.

Originally posted by pdc20:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by mayo49:
I just hate the belittling of Brock. He's not Mahomes or Allen, but he's good enough for what we need. That guy got made because he thought I was directing that at him. Miscommunication is the center of a lot of s**t in life.

If he was "good enough" this season 49ers make the playoffs. We all hope he gets back to 2023 Brock.

Give him the Chiefs defense and special teams and I can guarantee you he would've been good enough to make the playoffs.

People love to overlook the drastic regression injury related or otherwise this year all around Brock save a handful of players and pretend other QBs would somehow make chicken salad out of that chicken sh*t.

The reality is that the Defense and the Special Teams were the big problems this season, the offense was not.
And you're right give Purdy the Chiefs or the Eagles Defense and the Niners would have been in the PO. Hell with the Packers Defense, the Niners would have been a threat in the NFC.

You're not gonna win a Superbowl just because you have an elite QB. Joe Burrow had probably the best season of his career and what happened? The Steelers with their mediocre offense made the PO and not them.
Again, the Niners would have won the Superbowl last year if the Special Teams just did their job. And that was a Niners Team that had a good not great defense.
I'm not saying Purdy is an elite QB. He's not Joe Burrow or Josh Allen and certainly not Mahomes. But damn he's good, really good. And he's only 25 years old. He's not in his prime. He can improve. It would be a giant mistake to not re-sign him. He's gonna get a giant contract with the Niners or another team, we all should deal with it I think.

I always say put Brock on the Eagles. He would slay with that protection and offense. Kyle has done all that minus the o-line. We all see it, but the coaches done? so frustrating.

I disagree the offense wasn't an issue. They were dismal in the red zone which compounded with that ST and defensive issues. Just a bad year all around.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
Give brock all the money, if you think about it, he played just as well as mahomes in the SB!

no he's not half the QB as mahomes.

yup mahomes never made it to the SB as fast as Brock did

lol, ding ding ding!

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by mayo49:
I just hate the belittling of Brock. He's not Mahomes or Allen, but he's good enough for what we need. That guy got made because he thought I was directing that at him. Miscommunication is the center of a lot of s**t in life.

If he was "good enough" this season 49ers make the playoffs. We all hope he gets back to 2023 Brock.

Give him the Chiefs defense and special teams and I can guarantee you he would've been good enough to make the playoffs.

People love to overlook the drastic regression injury related or otherwise this year all around Brock save a handful of players and pretend other QBs would somehow make chicken salad out of that chicken sh*t.

In close, one-score games, the 2024 San Francisco 49ers went 2-6. In games decided by a field goal or less, the 49ers went 1-3.

KC just won its NFL record 17th straight game decided by one score.

and.. lol

one team decimated by injury and one team at full strength (still had a down year) .. why would you ignore that to make this weak take

You are just full of excuses huh

uh no, just not ignorant to football

Oh ok...Injuries it is then. That's all it was... Nothing else. So you were okay with Nick Sorensen or Brandon Staley running the D because how could they do the job effectively will all the injuries on defense. With a healthy defense everything will be okay. Brock was great this season. If 49ers could just stay healthy he would have another MVP season. Regression? No. How could he compete with just Deebo and Kittle. He needs 4 Pro Bowlers to throw to, not just 2!

when greenlaw came back for a quick sec, you saw how that defense changed. imagine having that all season and having guys not missing games due to injury and bereavement

as for offense, the OL was out due injury, playing through injury or totally s**t the bed like what Brendal did. The offense needs all 11 guys to be on the same page with execution. It doesn't help when you're working with 4th/5th string guys as your starters.

it's pretty naive to think the team we had out there on all 3 sides of the ball is our starting squad

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
probably a rookie maybe this mccord. keep taking swings i guess

Kyle McCord? Yah maybe in the mid round somewhere.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
probably a rookie maybe this mccord. keep taking swings i guess

Kyle McCord? Yah maybe in the mid round somewhere.

yes. have to keep taking flyers on guys.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
yes. have to keep taking flyers on guys.

No one has suggested otherwise. But he's a mid round prospect for a reason.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
yes. have to keep taking flyers on guys.

No one has suggested otherwise. But he's a mid round prospect for a reason.

faith is pretty consistent on bad QB Eval.. you got to give it to him on that

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
I always say put Brock on the Eagles. He would slay with that protection and offense. Kyle has done all that minus the o-line. We all see it, but the coaches done? so frustrating.

I disagree the offense wasn't an issue. They were dismal in the red zone which compounded with that ST and defensive issues. Just a bad year all around.

IIRC, they finished 13th on redzone efficiency. Not good, not bad either. The offense wasn't as good as last season but really Defense and ST were way more problematic.

And yes, you put Purdy behind the Eagles's O-Line or the Lions's O-Line and those offenses would be almost unstoppable. He's better in a clean pocket than Hurts and he's so much better at scrambling than Goff. It's up to Kyle and John to finally invest on the O-Line. Puni was a great pick. He plays like a first rounder. They should draft another two good players this year and build the O-line around them and Puni.