QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by mayo49:
I just hate the belittling of Brock. He's not Mahomes or Allen, but he's good enough for what we need. That guy got made because he thought I was directing that at him. Miscommunication is the center of a lot of s**t in life.

If he was "good enough" this season 49ers make the playoffs. We all hope he gets back to 2023 Brock.

While he had some bad INTs to lose games, he also had a lot of passes dropped to lose games.

to say what you did after a season we just had is just being petty

Dropped passes are a two way street

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Jackson and Allen are very obviously not on his level. Clear talent gap last night.

With the Bills especially, I saw a team that was out-coached, not out talented at the QB position. Everything on the Chiefs offense looked easier in large part because of it.

You need great coaching, great QB'ing, and a defense that can get stops at a minimum. You can potentially win without those things but you generally have to have some all time unit or collection of players to make up for it.

Bills don't have the defense to challenge Reid and Mahomes. They will figure you out and pick you apart at the end of the day. You may need a Belichick type DC who can adapt quickly and create a masterclass game plan to stop them. We were close the first time we saw them it was a series of unfortunate events that took us out. We were simply out coached the second time.

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Honest question does anyone think Purdy has already peaked year 3?

People are concerned if teams have "figured Purdy out" by now. I mean all players have scouting reports. The more they play, the more detailed and accurate they can be.

It's not so much about how much potential as a young player he may have (to each his own with this one),...as much as it's about the defenses he'll play.

Some guys improve tremendously given defensive adjustments,...while others vanish. Happens all the time.

Originally posted by jcs:
Bills don't have the defense to challenge Reid and Mahomes. They will figure you out and pick you apart at the end of the day. You may need a Belichick type DC who can adapt quickly and create a masterclass game plan to stop them. We were close the first time we saw them it was a series of unfortunate events that took us out. We were simply out coached the second time.

Agree about the Bills defense, not so much the Niners opinion though.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by jcs:
Bills don't have the defense to challenge Reid and Mahomes. They will figure you out and pick you apart at the end of the day. You may need a Belichick type DC who can adapt quickly and create a masterclass game plan to stop them. We were close the first time we saw them it was a series of unfortunate events that took us out. We were simply out coached the second time.

Agree about the Bills defense, not so much the Niners opinion though.

our defense was more dominant in the second meeting. but again, a freakish occurrence happened where our offense and STs hand over the ball to give KC life. Without those turnovers, does KC even score ?

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
our defense was more dominant in the second meeting. but again, a freakish occurrence happened where our offense and STs hand over the ball to give KC life. Without those turnovers, does KC even score ?

Have a hard time giving the D credit last year over 19 just because it was a different opponent (in the same uniform). The 19 Chiefs were a great offense and mediocre defense and the opposite was true in 23,

That said, I agree the turnovers were the primary reason we lost, especially the 'muffed' punt. It was damn near a stalemate even with them.

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Honest question does anyone think Purdy has already peaked year 3?

The idea seems absurd to me. Although I do tend to think Kyle ruins QBs over time

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
The idea seems absurd to me. Although I do tend to think Kyle ruins QBs over time

Respectfully, lol, this will never not be a crazy idea to me.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Honest question does anyone think Purdy has already peaked year 3?

I think it's possible. I also think it's possible we never put a team around him like we had the last 2 seasons prior to this one.

It's a tough question because I could see him continue to refine his skills and still have it not be good enough.

I don't think he peaked. I think he actually grew in a lot of ways outside of what we've seen the first two years but there was a steep decline of what is usually around him this year - which made the stuff he made look easy, much more difficult.

Brock by no means was perfect and has things to get better at, but there were a plethora of issues around him that also hurt him, not support him.

but… his major concern in college was that he didn't really improve a ton from frosh to senior year (specifically stats) but idk if that's cause of the diminish around him or he just has a really high floor?

I still believe in him. He isn't on Josh Allen's level - where he can cover up a ton of talent issues weekly, but I think he is easily a top 10 qb and if we can fix the stuff we did horrible this year - we will be contending again.

WR sep was awful this year. Run game was super inconsistent and unreliable in the pass game. Pass blocking was trash. Those things make
the offense very predictable.
couple that with an NFL worst special teams and a bottom 5 defense… you aren't winning much. Brock isn't the problem but he has stuff to get better at and perfect

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
The idea seems absurd to me. Although I do tend to think Kyle ruins QBs over time

Respectfully, lol, this will never not be a crazy idea to me.

I don't think it's absurd. I don't agree with it but that doesn't mean it's not possible. Brock could have an absurdly high floor and a decent ceiling. I'm not a big fan of that comparison but I think it helps make the picture.

Originally posted by tankle104:
I don't think it's absurd. I don't agree with it but that doesn't mean it's not possible. Brock could have an absurdly high floor and a decent ceiling. I'm not a big fan of that comparison but I think it helps make the picture.

I was referencing the idea that Kyle ruins QBs over time. Maybe I should have bolded it for clarity.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Honest question does anyone think Purdy has already peaked year 3?

I think it's possible. I also think it's possible we never put a team around him like we had the last 2 seasons prior to this one.

It's a tough question because I could see him continue to refine his skills and still have it not be good enough.

I don't think he peaked. I think he actually grew in a lot of ways outside of what we've seen the first two years but there was a steep decline of what is usually around him this year - which made the stuff he made look easy, much more difficult.

Brock by no means was perfect and has things to get better at, but there were a plethora of issues around him that also hurt him, not support him.

but… his major concern in college was that he didn't really improve a ton from frosh to senior year (specifically stats) but idk if that's cause of the diminish around him or he just has a really high floor?

I still believe in him. He isn't on Josh Allen's level - where he can cover up a ton of talent issues weekly, but I think he is easily a top 10 qb and if we can fix the stuff we did horrible this year - we will be contending again.

WR sep was awful this year. Run game was super inconsistent and unreliable in the pass game. Pass blocking was trash. Those things make
the offense very predictable.
couple that with an NFL worst special teams and a bottom 5 defense… you aren't winning much. Brock isn't the problem but he has stuff to get better at and perfect

Really accurate QB's can pass people open even in coverage. Drew Brees did it all the time with receivers that ran 4.6. Purdy is pretty accurate but he needs to learn when to take the open play instead of always looking for the home run, ball placement and timing are key and he's still developing that. He's not Favre, he can't sling it 20-30 yards down field on a rope and get it in a tiny opening consistently. And Favre still led the league in INT's playing that way even though it won him MVP's and a SB.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I don't think it's absurd. I don't agree with it but that doesn't mean it's not possible. Brock could have an absurdly high floor and a decent ceiling. I'm not a big fan of that comparison but I think it helps make the picture.

I was referencing the idea that Kyle ruins QBs over time. Maybe I should have bolded it for clarity.

Can't name a QB that's actually been better after Kyle was their OC. They all seem to peak out and then burn out except for his chosen one who became a never was in Lance.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
I was referencing the idea that Kyle ruins QBs over time. Maybe I should have bolded it for clarity.

All good 👍🏻👍🏻. I appreciate different opinions

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I don't think it's absurd. I don't agree with it but that doesn't mean it's not possible. Brock could have an absurdly high floor and a decent ceiling. I'm not a big fan of that comparison but I think it helps make the picture.

I was referencing the idea that Kyle ruins QBs over time. Maybe I should have bolded it for clarity.

Can't name a QB that's actually been better after Kyle was their OC. They all seem to peak out and then burn out except for his chosen one who became a never was in Lance.

I disagree. The only qb Kyle's ever had for 2+ seasons is Jimmy G. lol every one else he got a lot out of them but he's moved around a lot.

when he was the OC for Texans, he made the guy there a pro bowler and have good performances.

the only qb he's had for 2+ seasons that is even worth mentioning or was truly a really good qb was Matt Ryan. Everyone else was extremely mediocre. Brock has been good.

I don't think Kyle is perfect but we've never seen him with a top qb In this league besides Matt Ryan.