QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
The idea seems absurd to me. Although I do tend to think Kyle ruins QBs over time

Respectfully, lol, this will never not be a crazy idea to me.

Even Jimmy, I would vehemently argue against the idea that Kyle ruined him. And there is literally zero other QBs where you could even make the case that Kyle ruined.

Just an utterly ridiculous idea.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
The idea seems absurd to me. Although I do tend to think Kyle ruins QBs over time

Respectfully, lol, this will never not be a crazy idea to me.

Even Jimmy, I would vehemently argue against the idea that Kyle ruined him. And there is literally zero other QBs where you could even make the case that Kyle ruined.

Just an utterly ridiculous idea.

RG3, Matt Ryan, Johnny Manzeil, Matt Schaub, Jimmy G (who was better before he learned the playbook), I mean Trey Lance didn't even get a chance to and he somehow went from top 10 talent to worthless.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by jcs:
Bills don't have the defense to challenge Reid and Mahomes. They will figure you out and pick you apart at the end of the day. You may need a Belichick type DC who can adapt quickly and create a masterclass game plan to stop them. We were close the first time we saw them it was a series of unfortunate events that took us out. We were simply out coached the second time.

Agree about the Bills defense, not so much the Niners opinion though.

our defense was more dominant in the second meeting. but again, a freakish occurrence happened where our offense and STs hand over the ball to give KC life. Without those turnovers, does KC even score ?

We had them on the ropes the first time, we just forgot to cover T.Hill and gave a young Mahomes too many opportunities by not killing the clock in the 2nd half. The 2nd time you knew we were toast when they tied it up and Kyle didn't know the OT rules.

Originally posted by jcs:
RG3, Matt Ryan, Johnny Manzeil, Matt Schaub, Jimmy G (who was better before he learned the playbook), I mean Trey Lance didn't even get a chance to and he somehow went from top 10 talent to worthless.

You're just listing QBs here. Explain how he ruined Ryan, Schaub, or Jimmy G. FFS Johnny Manziel played two games for him and he reportedly forced his way out of Cleveland over ownership's handling of the situation.*

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by jcs:
RG3, Matt Ryan, Johnny Manzeil, Matt Schaub, Jimmy G (who was better before he learned the playbook), I mean Trey Lance didn't even get a chance to and he somehow went from top 10 talent to worthless.

You're just listing QBs here. Explain how he ruined Ryan, Schaub, or Jimmy G. FFS Johnny Manziel played two games for him and he reportedly forced his way out of Cleveland over ownership's handling of the situation.*

Ryan was an MVP caliber player before Kyle got there. He didn't develop the guy. Kyle's scheme did maximize the talent and speed when he was there and Matt did win an MVP with him but Kyle in a huge part cost them the SB and Ryan was never the same dominate player after that year, He was still putting up numbers but he was never a threat in the playoffs for the remainder of his career.

Jimmy was better in 2017 than any other year here IMO....he was explosive and he did it on instinct with a roster that should have only won 2 games max..and most importantly he was outside of Kyle's system...he was good enough to land a $100 million dollar contract. He was never that great since after learning the playbook and while he won A lot here he was never the same explosive passer.

Kyle was Manzeils rookie season OC...developed well.

Kyle was Lances Rookie HC/OC...developed him well.

The best case is RG3 who still blames the Shannahans for destroying his career by running him into the ground, "literally"

Originally posted by jcs:
Ryan was an MVP caliber player before Kyle got there. He didn't develop the guy. Kyle's scheme did maximize the talent and speed when he was there and Matt did win an MVP with him but Kyle in a huge part cost them the SB and Ryan was never the same dominate player after that year, He was still putting up numbers but he was never a threat in the playoffs for the remainder of his career.

Jimmy was better in 2017 than any other year here IMO....he was explosive and he did it on instinct with a roster that should have only won 2 games max..and most importantly he was outside of Kyle's system...he was good enough to land a $100 million dollar contract. He was never that great since after learning the playbook and while he won A lot here he was never the same explosive passer.

Kyle was Manzeils rookie season OC...developed well.

Kyle was Lances Rookie HC/OC...developed him well.

The best case is RG3 who still blames the Shannahans for destroying his career by running him into the ground, "literally"

All of this is laughable, but most especially the Matt Ryan argument. He had multiple successful seasons before and after Kyle coached him, yet Kyle put him in position to have his most successful season and a season that was arguably the most efficient for any QB in history. He even had a somewhat similar, but worse, statistical season two-three years after Kyle left.

Schaub had arguably his best year under Kyle and then multiple similar, but worse, seasons after Kyle left.

Jimmy G had arguably his best stretch of games as a 49er in 2022, well after the 5 game stretch in 2017 where he showed a big upgrade over two QB3s on a team that would have been much better with an adequate starter (which was ultimately shown through Jimmy G)

You didn't list a single piece of their game that got worse. You made generic arguments where anybody paying attention would note the opposite conclusion: Kyle has consistently made QB's look better than they are. Pretty much every single one of them, including Brock Purdy.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
The idea seems absurd to me. Although I do tend to think Kyle ruins QBs over time

Respectfully, lol, this will never not be a crazy idea to me.

Even Jimmy, I would vehemently argue against the idea that Kyle ruined him. And there is literally zero other QBs where you could even make the case that Kyle ruined.

Just an utterly ridiculous idea.

RG3, Matt Ryan, Johnny Manzeil, Matt Schaub, Jimmy G (who was better before he learned the playbook), I mean Trey Lance didn't even get a chance to and he somehow went from top 10 talent to worthless.

🤡

Originally posted by jcs:
RG3, Matt Ryan, Johnny Manzeil, Matt Schaub, Jimmy G (who was better before he learned the playbook), I mean Trey Lance didn't even get a chance to and he somehow went from top 10 talent to worthless.

LOL

Originally posted by jcs:
Ryan was an MVP caliber player before Kyle got there. He didn't develop the guy. Kyle's scheme did maximize the talent and speed when he was there and Matt did win an MVP with him but Kyle in a huge part cost them the SB and Ryan was never the same dominate player after that year, He was still putting up numbers but he was never a threat in the playoffs for the remainder of his career.

Jimmy was better in 2017 than any other year here IMO....he was explosive and he did it on instinct with a roster that should have only won 2 games max..and most importantly he was outside of Kyle's system...he was good enough to land a $100 million dollar contract. He was never that great since after learning the playbook and while he won A lot here he was never the same explosive passer.

Kyle was Manzeils rookie season OC...developed well.

Kyle was Lances Rookie HC/OC...developed him well.

The best case is RG3 who still blames the Shannahans for destroying his career by running him into the ground, "literally"

LMAOOOOOOOO

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
The idea seems absurd to me. Although I do tend to think Kyle ruins QBs over time

Respectfully, lol, this will never not be a crazy idea to me.

Even Jimmy, I would vehemently argue against the idea that Kyle ruined him. And there is literally zero other QBs where you could even make the case that Kyle ruined.

Just an utterly ridiculous idea.

RG3, Matt Ryan, Johnny Manzeil, Matt Schaub, Jimmy G (who was better before he learned the playbook), I mean Trey Lance didn't even get a chance to and he somehow went from top 10 talent to worthless.

🤡

Do Kyle haters even think before they say s**t. My god talk about the total opposite.

finally a respectful credible source shows us real news.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

The #49ers are Projected to Give Brock Purdy $48.5 Million Per Season https://t.co/SI4c7mCySS

— Grant Cohn (@grantcohn) January 27, 2025

finally a respectful credible source shows us real news.

Cohn posts this so he can turnaround and say it's overpay when the deal is done when this was never a realistic figure in the first place.

Like clockwork.

Originally posted by jcs:
RG3, Matt Ryan, Johnny Manzeil, Matt Schaub, Jimmy G (who was better before he learned the playbook), I mean Trey Lance didn't even get a chance to and he somehow went from top 10 talent to worthless.

Dirty is my quarterback.

Dear fellow Niner-Fans,

I really like Brock. I admire the speed with which he reads defenses and processes information. I also think his arm is better than many thought and should get even stronger with training.

However, that's where I see one of the biggest limitations. So far Brock hasn't proven that he can throw darts when it's really cold. Even in warm weather, deep passes are often under thrown. I'm also not always convinced by his throws to the outside.

Yes, Brock should get a decent contract, but please in the 50 million dollar range. Not top dollars.

That beeing said: remember Lynch was at Mahomes' Pro Day, called Shanahan and said. "Kyle, we have to draft him. He's putting on a show here" and Shanahan pointed out that they just had traded for Garoppolo....

Nonetheless, I don't like the Chiefs (as much as I like Andy Reid) nor the Eagles...

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
The idea seems absurd to me. Although I do tend to think Kyle ruins QBs over time

Respectfully, lol, this will never not be a crazy idea to me.

Even Jimmy, I would vehemently argue against the idea that Kyle ruined him. And there is literally zero other QBs where you could even make the case that Kyle ruined.

Just an utterly ridiculous idea.

Not sure how you can argue against Kyle ruining Jimmy. Did you see how great he looked with the Raiders?

It's a dumb narrative people make because Kyle doesn't believe in building monster OLines. Now I do think Kyle can make a change where his QBs have more freedom at the line but at the same time take advantage of the schematic advantages his playcalling provides.

But this is also why I find it funny that some of Kyle's biggest critics are also Purdy bashers. I never understood how you can have the same opinion.

Either Kyle isn't a good coach who holds the team and QB back from being their best...or he doesn't have a QB good enough. Andy Reid has 0 SB wins without Mahomes AND Spags.