QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Typecast:
. I didn't claim Daniel Jones was a backup when he signed his deal. I said he was a fringe franchise QB who hadn't done enough to convince his team he was worth building around. If Daniel Jones actually had the confidence of the franchise, he would have been paid like every other franchise QB in the league.

"franchise qb" is nothing more than an ambiguous term that has no value in what we're discussing.

Once we eliminate using that phrase as a crutch or a reason, everything else you said here is spot on.

Like the previous poster said... This x1000. We've come full-circle.

Brock will have to have done enough in a 49ers uniform to convince his team that he is worth building around, and have the confidence of his franchise, to avg $60M/yr in GTD money. It will not be simply because it's now a market norm for new QB contracts.

What percentage of $60m vs 2024 cap vs Jimmy G record contract and cap in that year. I can do math tomorrow but not on my iPad at night.

i still say $60m is too much with many other positions to fill. Not till the next contract. If worthy.

Originally posted by 9erson3:
What percentage of $60m vs 2024 cap vs Jimmy G record contract and cap in that year. I can do math tomorrow but not on my iPad at night.

i still say $60m is too much with many other positions to fill. Not till the next contract. If worthy.

All depends on how the contract is structured. Odds are that it will have a large signing bonus. If Brock signs a 6 year deal - it probably wouldn't exceed $30M a year for the first 3-4 years of the deal. It would be a 6 year extension! So 7 years total. He would get a ton of money upfront in signing bonus and then they'd structure it accordingly. So even though his cap hit would be $10M or so - he would actually get like $100M in signing bonus or whatever (idk what the number actually is but it'll be a lot in signing bonus)

brocks contract isn't going to be a massive pain on the salary cap, especially if they do the triple option structuring. Obviously anytbjng he's paid will be more than it now but it isn't like his contract will be $50$60m salary cap hits every year.

Originally posted by 9erson3:
What percentage of $60m vs 2024 cap vs Jimmy G record contract and cap in that year. I can do math tomorrow but not on my iPad at night.

i still say $60m is too much with many other positions to fill. Not till the next contract. If worthy.

I'm not sure why you care about the 2024 cap when a possible Purdy extension this offseason would be on the 2025 cap.

Extension AAV vs first year unadjusted cap

• Dak - 2024 - 60M/255.4M = 23.49%.
• Jimmy - 2018 - 27.5M/177.2M = 15.52%
• Brock (60M) - 2025 - 60M/273.3M = 21.95%
• Burrow (highest) - 2023 - 55M/224.8M = 24.47%

Total contract value vs Total unadjusted cap over contract (~7% growth year-to-year for future years)

• Dak - 2024-28 - 269M/1.469B = 18.32%
• Jimmy - 2018-22 - 137.5/954.3M = 14.41%
• Brock @ 300M/5 ext - 2025-30 - 305.2M/1.955B = 15.61%
• Brock @ 240M/4 ext - 2025-29 - 245.2M/1.571B = 15.60%
• Lamar (highest) - 2023-27 - 260M/1.359B = 19.14%

Should probably mention Mahomes and the Chiefs. They restructured his cash flow in 2023, moving 43.3M from 2027-31 to 2023-26. Just playing with the numbers, Mahomes will make at least 327.9M total cash from 2020-26 (16.84% of 1.947B). 300.3M of that was new money from the extension, putting his extension AAV through 2026 at 50.05M (25.25% of the 2020 cap of 198.2M). In 2027, Mahomes will have 209M/5 remaining on his current deal, dragging down his extension AAV back to the original 45M. He'll likely get a new contract around then.
edit - The media deal the league currently has with networks goes through 2033, but there is a league option to terminate the deal in 2029. It's expected the league will opt out and the early 2030s will see another boom to the salary cap.

Originally posted by jonnydel:
posted this a week ago from X but know some people don't use X for various reasons. Here's the YT link now, I won the appeal against the NFL.

Great video, thank you!

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by random49er:
Well yes. He wants to discuss humans throwing a football as if they're apples or eggs. No,...they're individuals with individual abilities.

He'll say "The Market" for QBs is a guaranteed $60M per year but ignores that Daniel Jones' extension was $40M per year with alot of window dressing. The Giants protected themselves by only guaranteeing HALF of that contract. They are able to get out of that contract this coming season while absorbing a dead cap hit of just over $22.2 million.

So no, all starting QBs aren't treated like royalty due to some random number a guy on the internet wants to believe.

So "The Market" isint a $60M cap hit for all QBs, as you said. It's the maximum that 32 teams would pay for his individual services.... in 2028 when he can be a FA unrestrained.

Daniel Jones, lol, what a comp.

Just an absurd comp.

We were comparing the new contracts of starters.

He (TypeCast) has stayed away from "Brock will get $60M guaranteed per yr bcuz he's just that good."

He has opted for " starting QBs today are simply going to get this going forward... cause of the MARKET. "

So he has been given an example of a starting QB where the numbers on his relatively-new contract were fluff and after a couple yrs, the team had an out.

I see you want to instead attach the contract offer with the ability of the starter, just as well as I do, right?

Well great. But the OP's argument purposely stays away from this.

So by now, I hope you are following.

Absurd things are being stated (as is the norm here when emotions get high) and I'm simply countering.

Let's see if we can stop bait and switching.

High horse riding again...

Once again nobody here is claiming Brock is going to get a fully guaranteed deal worth $60+ per year.

Every person in here understands the contract will be full of that same fluff you're going on about with Daniel Jones' contract. It will just have more guarantees because Brock actually has proven a lot more than Daniel Jones ever has. That's how contracts work.

Proven players get paid more guaranteed money but unless a player is considered elite and has very few limitations and coming into the contract extension time after a monster season they get more fluff.

I've mentioned the Jalen Hurts contract many times in here and I see others are starting to do the same. I fully expect Brock's deal to mirror that type of deal but adjusted for the so called NFL inflation.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Tim Kawakami on Brock Purdy's pending contract extension:

"I heard from a plugged-in NFL source this week that the 49ers and Purdy's camp are, indeed, feeling like there won't be fireworks on the way to an eventual deal. But I've also heard generally that the framework might be… pic.twitter.com/8Xxo8270Cy

— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) January 30, 2025

thank you. why would we use deals that made the club look like a fool as our template. contract has to be team friendly !

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Tim Kawakami on Brock Purdy's pending contract extension:

"I heard from a plugged-in NFL source this week that the 49ers and Purdy's camp are, indeed, feeling like there won't be fireworks on the way to an eventual deal. But I've also heard generally that the framework might be… pic.twitter.com/8Xxo8270Cy

— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) January 30, 2025

thank you. why would we use deals that made the club look like a fool as our template. contract has to be team friendly !

It was always going to be team friendly, you just didn't want to hear it or wait for the details. This report doesn't change anything.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Tim Kawakami on Brock Purdy's pending contract extension:

"I heard from a plugged-in NFL source this week that the 49ers and Purdy's camp are, indeed, feeling like there won't be fireworks on the way to an eventual deal. But I've also heard generally that the framework might be… pic.twitter.com/8Xxo8270Cy

— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) January 30, 2025

thank you. why would we use deals that made the club look like a fool as our template. contract has to be team friendly !

It was always going to be team friendly, you just didn't want to hear it or wait for the details. This report doesn't change anything.

lol pretty much.. but is Purdy mahomes -4f6 !

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Tim Kawakami on Brock Purdy's pending contract extension:

"I heard from a plugged-in NFL source this week that the 49ers and Purdy's camp are, indeed, feeling like there won't be fireworks on the way to an eventual deal. But I've also heard generally that the framework might be… pic.twitter.com/8Xxo8270Cy

— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) January 30, 2025

thank you. why would we use deals that made the club look like a fool as our template. contract has to be team friendly !

It was always going to be team friendly, you just didn't want to hear it or wait for the details. This report doesn't change anything.

Been saying that multiple times in this thread. Yet everyone keeps freaking out and getting pissed off. It took a tweet that we already knew to calm people down. smfh

Franchise QB's: Mahomes, Allen, Jackson, Burrow, Daniels. These are guys who won't be replaced. They are capable of winning a SB. They need not have weapons at every position to be successful. Montana, Brady, and Manning were franchise QB's.

Guys like Mayfield, Purdy, Hurts, & Goff are QB's you can probably win a SB with. But don't count on them to consistently carry you. They aren't good enough for that. These are good QB's but aren't irreplaceable by any means.

Originally posted by 49ers9797:
Franchise QB's: Mahomes, Allen, Jackson, Burrow, Daniels. These are guys who won't be replaced. They are capable of winning a SB. They need not have weapons at every position to be successful. Montana, Brady, and Manning were franchise QB's.

Guys like Mayfield, Purdy, Hurts, & Goff are QB's you can probably win a SB with. But don't count on them to consistently carry you. They aren't good enough for that. These are good QB's but aren't irreplaceable by any means.

Yet the QB's you said are capable of winning the Super Bowl only one you mentioned has actually won one.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 49ers9797:

Franchise QB's: Mahomes, Allen, Jackson, Burrow, Daniels. These are guys who won't be replaced. They are capable of winning a SB. They need not have weapons at every position to be successful. Montana, Brady, and Manning were franchise QB's.

Guys like Mayfield, Purdy, Hurts, & Goff are QB's you can probably win a SB with. But don't count on them to consistently carry you. They aren't good enough for that. These are good QB's but aren't irreplaceable by any means.

Yet the QB's you said are capable of winning the Super Bowl only one you mentioned has actually won one.

Chiefs have the best defense, best coaching, and a great qb. The bengals just showed you can have an mvp level qb and you still won't be saved. None of these guys have carried a bad team to anything. They look good in the reg season, but what's the point if they need weapons and a team in the playoffs? Those guys are like a combined 0/20 in carrying their team to the sb. They aren't good enough either

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 49ers9797:
Franchise QB's: Mahomes, Allen, Jackson, Burrow, Daniels. These are guys who won't be replaced. They are capable of winning a SB. They need not have weapons at every position to be successful. Montana, Brady, and Manning were franchise QB's.

Guys like Mayfield, Purdy, Hurts, & Goff are QB's you can probably win a SB with. But don't count on them to consistently carry you. They aren't good enough for that. These are good QB's but aren't irreplaceable by any means.

Yet the QB's you said are capable of winning the Super Bowl only one you mentioned has actually won one.

Right? Every year we hear about how unless you're QB XYZ you can't win the SB and yet the YZ don't have a SB.

So clearly those guys need the extra help too or they go home by Mr X. And yes Burrow beat Mahomes once but still couldn't get the win in the end.

Chiefs and Mahomes have a ton of help. Just because his offense wasn't a juggernaut doesn't eliminate how much talent is on that team and how well coached they are and how good their defense and special teams is.

EVERY QB needs help. You will be incredibly hard pressed to find SB winners who had bad teams around them.