QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Kolohe:
That's your excuse your making, they hate success!!! It's clear as day the refs favor KC, the point is every one can see it. I take it you didn't watch the awards last night!!!

BTW that hit was perfectly legal, where did Brooks hit the head area? Brees had the ball.



And why did KC get the golden ticket, you tell me you seem to know it all!!!

I'm not the one making up some weird narrative that the NFL has s**t rigged for KC to win…you tell me man. That's your conspiracy theory, not mine. Why did they get the golden ticket?

Folks did the same s**t when NE was winning. Brady got every call. Every time manning got touched it was a flag. Same s**t with Drew and Rogers. Good players get calls. It's always been like that.

I'm not saying it's fair because it's not. At this pt people are going out of their way to find anything weird and embellish it. KC does get calls, I'm not denying it. The great teams have always gotten the calls for whatever reason.

Get ready for Philly fans to have a meltdown when the flags get thrown lol.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
in no way?.. you can point at a lot of factors that he did better than PM

again it is possible for other QBs to have better years.. like MVP Allen

you really want to die on that goff is better than mahomes hill, huh? there are diehard lions fans who question if goff belongs on the team after 2024. i don't think you can find kc fans feeling that way about their guy. pretty telling. i can see how if you didn't watch the games and you are just looking up stats, you may be confused on this one.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
. KC does get calls, I'm not denying it. The great teams have always gotten the calls for whatever reason.

You literally are though.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
what point did you make.. they were 4th in pts given up, giving up a 19 pts avg, that is still awesome in todays game..

what's not great, is only scoring 22 pts and needing the Refs to help

This isn't about one game in the playoffs or who is the better QB.. I would choose Mahomes between the two every time.. but this was about who had the better season and it's Goff. PM didn't even make the PB or get MVP..

other QBs can have better years than PM, it's not a knock on PM

My point was you're comparing two totally different QBs that play in different schemes. Goff got over 2,000 yards off of play-action plays. Mahomes ran play action wayyyy less. Lots of easy yards there imo.

18.8 pts is better than 19.4 and everyone in here s**t on our D last yr. Fired the DC.

Sam Darold and mayfield put up the same stats as Goff. Not a single person is talking about them and Mahomes in the same sentence.

Josh Allen has 3,700 passing and 28TDs and won the MVP. Who cares.

look I get what you're saying. Mahomes wasn't his elite level self. He also just wins games and he absolutely played a part in that. 3rd down completions and game winning drives are very much about the QB and that turd keeps showing up at those moments. It's annoying and it's inevitable unfortunately

I said earlier i would pick Mahomes every time between the two, but it's ok to say other QBs have had a better year also, which happened two years in a row now.

saying that doesn't take away what PM can do with the game on the line

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
not sure how Defense comparison proves mahomes had a better year than Goff.. both defenses are still really good.

in no way KC wins the amount of games this season if they didn't have that defense and help from the Refs.

I already made my point with Goff. I'm showing you that yes they had a very good defense, it wasn't as amazing as everything thinks. They weren't even the best D this yr.

Last I checked Mahomes is playing for a Super Bowl and Goff totally FUBAR his last playoff game. He does what he always does folds like a lawn chair under pressure. Dude played in two games outside of a dome this yr lol. Do folks realize how ridiculous that is?

yes. qbs function with what is around them. when they needed mahomes to throw 50 tds, he did that. when they need him to take the checkdowns, avoid the turnovers, and win 20-7 games, he did that. a good d means mahomes isn't chasing the game, he can spend an entire 2nd half handing off, then ppl who don't watch say gee he didn't score a lot of fantasy points, he must suck, or is having a 'down' year. down year and they are 15-2 and handled their playoff games, get real folks. some down year

This may come as a surprise to you but this is a team sport. You have no problem looking at the results when virtually across the board the 49ers were worse this year than last year, including coaching. Your take is Purdy regressed and isn't worth extending.

Mahomes has terrific coaching and continuity around him. They're missing 1 key piece of their team due to injury heading into this game(not surprisingly can be said for the Eagles too and I'm not sure Nakobe Dean is really that key of a piece for them)

His defense may not be elite elite this year but Spags is still running the show and they're still very good. Their special teams are terrific too.

Mahomes IS having a down year for his own standards. It certainly doesn't mean the guy sucks now considering while his numbers are down overall he set career best in terms of game winning drives and 4th quarter comebacks. He and that whole team have ice in their veins, it's very commendable and we need that type of juice here.

But as others have said you don't get those opportunities if your defense can't keep the game close, if your special teams doesn't help.

Perfect example is the Denver win. Mahomes got credited with both the 4th quarter comeback and Game Winning drive.

Do we recall how that game ended? Leo Chenal blocking a 35 yard FG attempt that would've won the game for Denver.

This is a point you and some others want to ignore. Most of us understand how great Mahomes is...but we saw that he was not playing great football when he was missing guys. It's not shocking in the least bit that he's been playing his best football since they added Hopkins via trade and Hollywood Brown got healthy.

Meanwhile Brock has almost no consistency at his skill positions, OL having issues, defense can't hold leads, special teams can't stop hurting us. Coaching not making things easy until we're completely decimated by injury...and here we are thinking oh this season is very telling of what Brock is, let's forget the other 1.5 years we saw when the team wasn't a disaster around him.

When Kelce decided to date Taylor Swift that gave the NFL every reason to steal shine away from the BIGGEST STORY in the NFL. Brock Purdy last pick of the draft in the running for NFL MVP in only his first year starting. Right then I knew we were doomed

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
in no way?.. you can point at a lot of factors that he did better than PM

again it is possible for other QBs to have better years.. like MVP Allen

you really want to die on that goff is better than mahomes hill, huh? there are diehard lions fans who question if goff belongs on the team after 2024. i don't think you can find kc fans feeling that way about their guy. pretty telling. i can see how if you didn't watch the games and you are just looking up stats, you may be confused on this one.

you are just unable to comprehend what is being discussed here.. I've stated many times that PM is the better QB

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
. KC does get calls, I'm not denying it. The great teams have always gotten the calls for whatever reason.

You literally are though.

KC isn't the only team getting calls. They keep winning so it gets embellished. Every hold, every "bad ball placement" every personal foul. It's intensified because we all want them to lose.

I remember the LOB never getting called for anything. Good teams get calls (or get called). It's been like this forever. We all hate teams that win a ton, literally you can look back on every single one and say that the refs always favored them. Human nature imo.

my point is there isn't some deep rooted conspiracy that the NFL has rigged everything for KC to win every year. If anything you'd think they would want someone else to win it.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
I said earlier i would pick Mahomes every time between the two, but it's ok to say other QBs have had a better year also, which happened two years in a row now.

saying that doesn't take away what PM can do with the game on the line

That's fair.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
. KC does get calls, I'm not denying it. The great teams have always gotten the calls for whatever reason.

You literally are though.

KC isn't the only team getting calls. They keep winning so it gets embellished. Every hold, every "bad ball placement" every personal foul. It's intensified because we all want them to lose.

I remember the LOB never getting called for anything. Good teams get calls (or get called). It's been like this forever. We all hate teams that win a ton, literally you can look back on every single one and say that the refs always favored them. Human nature imo.

my point is there isn't some deep rooted conspiracy that the NFL has rigged everything for KC to win every year. If anything you'd think they would want someone else to win it.

we have kept up with the winning side also, why are we absolutely on the opposite side of all the flags/No flags ?

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
When Kelce decided to date Taylor Swift that gave the NFL every reason to steal shine away from the BIGGEST STORY in the NFL. Brock Purdy last pick of the draft in the running for NFL MVP in only his first year starting. Right then I knew we were doomed

I mean if CMC didn't fumble, luter didn't f**k up a punt return, Dre torn achilles, Burford going full simple jack, moody missing a XP, Brock missing a easy hot read, stopping them on 3rd or 4th downs late…SF wins despite the Swift voodoo s**t.

plenty of stuff could have changed that game besides the refs (even though Warner was clearly held on that blitz).

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
I said earlier i would pick Mahomes every time between the two, but it's ok to say other QBs have had a better year also, which happened two years in a row now.

saying that doesn't take away what PM can do with the game on the line

you seem to think that goff having a clean pocket and throwing strikes to mostly wide open dudes means his year is better. goff is just a guy. you can put 30 different QBs in detroit and they have very productive years like goff. put mahomes in detroit and see what happens. put goff in kc, you want to see what goff in kc looks like, google alex smith kc.

"Better year" is left up to interpretation as well,..as it doesn't get much better than 15-2.

Originally posted by genus49:
This may come as a surprise to you but this is a team sport. You have no problem looking at the results when virtually across the board the 49ers were worse this year than last year, including coaching. Your take is Purdy regressed and isn't worth extending.

Mahomes has terrific coaching and continuity around him. They're missing 1 key piece of their team due to injury heading into this game(not surprisingly can be said for the Eagles too and I'm not sure Nakobe Dean is really that key of a piece for them)

His defense may not be elite elite this year but Spags is still running the show and they're still very good. Their special teams are terrific too.

Mahomes IS having a down year for his own standards. It certainly doesn't mean the guy sucks now considering while his numbers are down overall he set career best in terms of game winning drives and 4th quarter comebacks. He and that whole team have ice in their veins, it's very commendable and we need that type of juice here.

But as others have said you don't get those opportunities if your defense can't keep the game close, if your special teams doesn't help.

Perfect example is the Denver win. Mahomes got credited with both the 4th quarter comeback and Game Winning drive.

Do we recall how that game ended? Leo Chenal blocking a 35 yard FG attempt that would've won the game for Denver.

This is a point you and some others want to ignore. Most of us understand how great Mahomes is...but we saw that he was not playing great football when he was missing guys. It's not shocking in the least bit that he's been playing his best football since they added Hopkins via trade and Hollywood Brown got healthy.

Meanwhile Brock has almost no consistency at his skill positions, OL having issues, defense can't hold leads, special teams can't stop hurting us. Coaching not making things easy until we're completely decimated by injury...and here we are thinking oh this season is very telling of what Brock is, let's forget the other 1.5 years we saw when the team wasn't a disaster around him.

mahomes is not having a down year. myth. fiction. i watch the guy play, i watch all the games i can, and he does nothing but impress. he is uncanny. i 100% have rejected, and will always reject, the mahomes 'down year' take. it's complete nonsense, and i suspect driven by ppl who simply don't watch and go off stats or advanced stats. what he's doing now is completely unprecedented in nfl history. you don't get to watch that, and say oh joe blow goff is having a better season, and i will take that seriously. i won't. mahomes is missing guys like you say, and he is playing unreal football. he's not doing much of anything wrong on a game by game or snap by snap basis. you'll have to clue me in to these stretches where mahomes isn't playing the position well. haven't seen that his entire pro career. the bold is a thousand percent false.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
That's your excuse your making, they hate success!!! It's clear as day the refs favor KC, the point is every one can see it. I take it you didn't watch the awards last night!!!

BTW that hit was perfectly legal, where did Brooks hit the head area? Brees had the ball.



And why did KC get the golden ticket, you tell me you seem to know it all!!!

I'm not the one making up some weird narrative that the NFL has s**t rigged for KC to win…you tell me man. That's your conspiracy theory, not mine. Why did they get the golden ticket?

Folks did the same s**t when NE was winning. Brady got every call. Every time manning got touched it was a flag. Same s**t with Drew and Rogers. Good players get calls. It's always been like that.

I'm not saying it's fair because it's not. At this pt people are going out of their way to find anything weird and embellish it. KC does get calls, I'm not denying it. The great teams have always gotten the calls for whatever reason.

Get ready for Philly fans to have a meltdown when the flags get thrown lol.

I think you answered your own post for me. So you agree that KC gets calls!! And if you agree KC gets calls then you agree the calls and the refs have a lot to do with Mahomes and KC's success!!

Thanks for clearing that up NY.