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If Purdy is going to hold out for a 50+mil long term contract he will be in the stands week 1. I dont see him getting anything more and with Jones signed, a Shany crush, the Niners will not have any patiences.
[ Edited by TD49ers on Mar 15, 2025 at 8:43 AM ]
I don't care anymore how much they pay Purdy. It's going to be a lot. That much we know. The 49ers have all the leverage in this thing. Brock is under contract so he has to play this season. They could put the franchise tag on him if they want to in 2026 and 2027. If he sits out he only hurts his own value on next season's free agent market. The better he performs the more his value will be whether it's with SF or some other team.
Originally posted by TD49ers:
If Purdy is going to hold out for a 50+mil long term contract he will be in the stands week 1. I dont see him getting anything more and with Jones signed, a Shany crush, the Niners will not have any patiences.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I don't care anymore how much they pay Purdy. It's going to be a lot. That much we know. The 49ers have all the leverage in this thing. Brock is under contract so he has to play this season. They could put the franchise tag on him if they want to in 2026 and 2027. If he sits out he only hurts his own value on next season's free agent market. The better he performs the more his value will be whether it's with SF or some other team.

Franchise tag? How much is that? My guess higher than 50 mil
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I don't care anymore how much they pay Purdy. It's going to be a lot. That much we know. The 49ers have all the leverage in this thing. Brock is under contract so he has to play this season. They could put the franchise tag on him if they want to in 2026 and 2027. If he sits out he only hurts his own value on next season's free agent market. The better he performs the more his value will be whether it's with SF or some other team.

Franchise tag? How much is that? My guess higher than 50 mil

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Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I don't care anymore how much they pay Purdy. It's going to be a lot. That much we know. The 49ers have all the leverage in this thing. Brock is under contract so he has to play this season. They could put the franchise tag on him if they want to in 2026 and 2027. If he sits out he only hurts his own value on next season's free agent market. The better he performs the more his value will be whether it's with SF or some other team.

Franchise tag? How much is that? My guess higher than 50 mil

It's projected at $41m for 2026 and $51m for 2027, so with his $5m this year, he'd get $97m over three years, or $32.3m/yr average for the three years. How can that look better to him than signing a long term contract with lots of guaranteed money and cash up front? The team has the leverage, and he has to sign. No worries, mate.
[ Edited by BOI49er on Mar 15, 2025 at 9:22 AM ]
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I don't care anymore how much they pay Purdy. It's going to be a lot. That much we know. The 49ers have all the leverage in this thing. Brock is under contract so he has to play this season. They could put the franchise tag on him if they want to in 2026 and 2027. If he sits out he only hurts his own value on next season's free agent market. The better he performs the more his value will be whether it's with SF or some other team.

Franchise tag? How much is that? My guess higher than 50 mil

It's projected at $41m for 2026 and $51m for 2027, so with his $5m this year, he'd get $97m over three years, or $32.3m/yr average for the three years. How can that look better to him than signing a long term contract with lots of guaranteed money and cash up front? The team has the leverage, and he has to sign. No worries, mate.

He could still hold out. 49ers management has set that bar.
Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
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Franchise tag? How much is that? My guess higher than 50 mil

It's projected at $41m for 2026 and $51m for 2027, so with his $5m this year, he'd get $97m over three years, or $32.3m/yr average for the three years. How can that look better to him than signing a long term contract with lots of guaranteed money and cash up front? The team has the leverage, and he has to sign. No worries, mate.

He could still hold out. 49ers management has set that bar.

Of course he holds out for a bad contract.
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
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Franchise tag? How much is that? My guess higher than 50 mil

It's projected at $41m for 2026 and $51m for 2027, so with his $5m this year, he'd get $97m over three years, or $32.3m/yr average for the three years. How can that look better to him than signing a long term contract with lots of guaranteed money and cash up front? The team has the leverage, and he has to sign. No worries, mate.

He could still hold out. 49ers management has set that bar.

IMO, the net difference by holding out would not be worth the performance hit and potential loss of opportunity to show his stuff in the playoffs again. Also, would he want to give Mac reps in front of him? Risky.

I think we have better things to worry about. I think the team regrets the $120m contract we gave Aiyuk, I don't think they want to live with it, there is a good chance we trade him during the draft even though we will take a big hit on dead cap, and then we are weak with WR backups we will try to fill with a draft pick.
[ Edited by BOI49er on Mar 15, 2025 at 9:47 AM ]
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by Izyniner:
Originally posted by random49er:
I dont think past accomplishments are going to move the needle. I think how good you are as a player (your level of play right now) and future projections of how good you're likely to be in the immediate future is what's going to get you alot of this GTD money.

How do you get a future projection without using past accomplishments as your base?

So your projection for how Jalen Hurts will play in the future is mainly based on him winning the SB MVP? What about other QBs that have won it or got there in recent memory.... Nick Foles (MVP), Flacco (MVP), Trent Dilfer, Jake Delhomme, Matt Hasselbeck, the list goes on. You really doing this?

You go with past "team accomplishments",....I'll go along with the NFL brass,...which is what I actually see regarding how they're playing on the field, the talent I can see or gauge, et. al.

Jalen Hurts latest isn't all about winning the SB. How he played last year overall and how he plays in general when certain situations arise are all part of those evaluations.

Teams don't just pay for SB wins. They're big parts of negotiations of course but teams watch tape, they understand how their own guy is used, how they can hide his deficiencies and how he may look if things aren't perfect around him.

But past accomplishments are certainly a part of the evaluation. If you show you're able to play at a high level and don't completely fall apart when few things are going right that's a good indicator of future success.
Originally posted by BOI49er:
It's projected at $41m for 2026 and $51m for 2027, so with his $5m this year, he'd get $97m over three years, or $32.3m/yr average for the three years. How can that look better to him than signing a long term contract with lots of guaranteed money and cash up front? The team has the leverage, and he has to sign. No worries, mate.

Yeah but the way that impacts the salary cap, the franchise tag, is brutal.

if we sign an extension with Brock, we can make his cap hit in the 15-25M range for the first 3-4 years (look at Jalen hurts).

if we do the franchise tag, the entire tag price is an entire chunk of the salary cap. Much much much Much less cap flexibility. So his cap hit in 2026 and 2027 would be $41M and 51M. Making him one of the highest cap hits in the league.

for context, hurts signed a $50M+ extension (like Brocks) deal but the first four years cap hits are
2023: $6.1M
2024: $13.4M
2025: $21.8M
2026: $31.9M

so using the franchise tag would be very dumb, lol it's not really a saving at all. It hurts the next few years. We would have to pay Brock in one year (for one year of play) what hurts cap hit was for four years. Which his cap number is a big reason they've maintained a great team around him.

Ive been saying for a long time now - I hope he does a structure like what hurts did (triple option structure).
[ Edited by tankle104 on Mar 15, 2025 at 5:29 PM ]
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by Izyniner:
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How do you get a future projection without using past accomplishments as your base?

So your projection for how Jalen Hurts will play in the future is mainly based on him winning the SB MVP? What about other QBs that have won it or got there in recent memory.... Nick Foles (MVP), Flacco (MVP), Trent Dilfer, Jake Delhomme, Matt Hasselbeck, the list goes on. You really doing this?

You go with past "team accomplishments",....I'll go along with the NFL brass,...which is what I actually see regarding how they're playing on the field, the talent I can see or gauge, et. al.

Jalen Hurts latest isn't all about winning the SB. How he played last year overall and how he plays in general when certain situations arise are all part of those evaluations.

Teams don't just pay for SB wins. They're big parts of negotiations of course but teams watch tape, they understand how their own guy is used, how they can hide his deficiencies and how he may look if things aren't perfect around him.

But past accomplishments are certainly a part of the evaluation. If you show you're able to play at a high level and don't completely fall apart when few things are going right that's a good indicator of future success.

Getting to a SB doesn't show you're capable of playing at a high level. Playing at a high level shows you're capable of playing at a high level.
[ Edited by random49er on Mar 15, 2025 at 6:57 PM ]
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I don't care anymore how much they pay Purdy. It's going to be a lot. That much we know. The 49ers have all the leverage in this thing. Brock is under contract so he has to play this season. They could put the franchise tag on him if they want to in 2026 and 2027. If he sits out he only hurts his own value on next season's free agent market. The better he performs the more his value will be whether it's with SF or some other team.

Franchise tag? How much is that? My guess higher than 50 mil

It's projected at $41m for 2026 and $51m for 2027, so with his $5m this year, he'd get $97m over three years, or $32.3m/yr average for the three years. How can that look better to him than signing a long term contract with lots of guaranteed money and cash up front? The team has the leverage, and he has to sign. No worries, mate.

I used the same logic with Deebo and then BA...and here we are.
Originally posted by tankle104:
so using the franchise tag would be very dumb, lol it's not really a saving at all. It hurts the next few years. We would have to pay Brock in one year (for one year of play) what hurts cap hit was for four years. Which his cap number is a big reason they've maintained a great team around him.

It's not "dumb" at all if that's the option we have and he's playing good ball. We have a deadline of making a decision on that first one likely on March 3rd, 2026.

What would be dumb is not recognizing the value of having extra time and reps to truly assess what a player is worth before overdoing a contract you may regret.

That time may not be valuable to you,...but that extra "prove it" year could be enormously evaluable to the team.

If he is worth the $40M+ from that tag, kick the can down the road and give it to him. If he wants a team-friendly deal beforehand, give him that too. I'll say it again: Brock doesn't have to sign a new piece of paper he doesn't want to sign. But he does have to abide by the 1 year left on his deal and franchise tags for 2 additional years (should they happen).
[ Edited by random49er on Mar 16, 2025 at 7:40 AM ]
Originally posted by BOI49er:
IMO, the net difference by holding out would not be worth the performance hit and potential loss of opportunity to show his stuff in the playoffs again. Also, would he want to give Mac reps in front of him? Risky.

I think we have better things to worry about. I think the team regrets the $120m contract we gave Aiyuk, I don't think they want to live with it, there is a good chance we trade him during the draft even though we will take a big hit on dead cap, and then we are weak with WR backups we will try to fill with a draft pick.

The worst part about aiyuks contract is the structure and guaranteed money. We pretty have an out after 2026, but his next two seasons here have a ton of guaranteed money.

Aiyuk was super disappointing to me, especially how crappy he looked. So all we can do is hope he returns to the player he was but man that's a brutal injury. Hes going to miss everything and probably not be ready to contribute until mid season. IMO.
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