QB Brock Purdy Thread

"The decision to let juice walk signals an evolution to the 49ers offensive scheme. Shanahan will go more two tight end and adpat to purdys strengths as the next progression." (paraphrasing)

- D. Lombardi

and now juice is back lol

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
"The decision to let juice walk signals an evolution to the 49ers offensive scheme. Shanahan will go more two tight end and adpat to purdys strengths as the next progression." (paraphrasing)

- D. Lombardi

and now juice is back lol

And he said yesterday that Juice is back because he is a cornerstone of the team and we all should be thankful that he is still here because Shanahan knows what he is doing.

Originally posted by Monsterniner:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
"The decision to let juice walk signals an evolution to the 49ers offensive scheme. Shanahan will go more two tight end and adpat to purdys strengths as the next progression." (paraphrasing)

- D. Lombardi

and now juice is back lol

And he said yesterday that Juice is back because he is a cornerstone of the team and we all should be thankful that he is still here because Shanahan knows what he is doing.

He's such a douchebag lol

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
It's projected at $41m for 2026 and $51m for 2027, so with his $5m this year, he'd get $97m over three years, or $32.3m/yr average for the three years. How can that look better to him than signing a long term contract with lots of guaranteed money and cash up front? The team has the leverage, and he has to sign. No worries, mate.

Yeah but the way that impacts the salary cap, the franchise tag, is brutal.

if we sign an extension with Brock, we can make his cap hit in the 15-25M range for the first 3-4 years (look at Jalen hurts).

if we do the franchise tag, the entire tag price is an entire chunk of the salary cap. Much much much Much less cap flexibility. So his cap hit in 2026 and 2027 would be $41M and 51M. Making him one of the highest cap hits in the league.

for context, hurts signed a $50M+ extension (like Brocks) deal but the first four years cap hits are
2023: $6.1M
2024: $13.4M
2025: $21.8M
2026: $31.9M

so using the franchise tag would be very dumb, lol it's not really a saving at all. It hurts the next few years. We would have to pay Brock in one year (for one year of play) what hurts cap hit was for four years. Which his cap number is a big reason they've maintained a great team around him.

Ive been saying for a long time now - I hope he does a structure like what hurts did (triple option structure).

I think you missed the point I made that he has to sign. If he doesn't want to stay here and play for Kyle, he doesn't have to do anything. I'll argue he has to do that too, because he can't possibly know he'd do as well elsewhere. If he really doesn't sign, we play him for $5.1m, and then have current knowledge to decide whether to again trying to sign him, franchise him, or trade him. Still don't see how that benefits him long term, he's not stupid or vindictive, and I just don't see it happening.

Ah, yeah. If he doesn't want to sign - then we can rock with him on his rookie deal and then tag/trade next off season.

I want Brock here and for him to sign a good deal for both parties. I'd be shocked if he didn't want to be here, it's really an excellent system for him - just like our system benefits having his skill set.

I think it'll get worked out sooner than later. I'd be surprised if Brock was going for the full money grab (short deal with as much as possible annually and guaranteed). That would hamstring us.

based on market, he easily deserves at least $52.5M - anything short of that would be hard to make the argument that is his "worth". Too many qbs have been paid that he's better than. (I'm not saying you said that - I'm just thinking out loud).

I hope his contract is finalized before the draft.

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I don't care anymore how much they pay Purdy. It's going to be a lot. That much we know. The 49ers have all the leverage in this thing. Brock is under contract so he has to play this season. They could put the franchise tag on him if they want to in 2026 and 2027. If he sits out he only hurts his own value on next season's free agent market. The better he performs the more his value will be whether it's with SF or some other team.

Franchise tag? How much is that? My guess higher than 50 mil

It's projected at $41m for 2026 and $51m for 2027, so with his $5m this year, he'd get $97m over three years, or $32.3m/yr average for the three years. How can that look better to him than signing a long term contract with lots of guaranteed money and cash up front? The team has the leverage, and he has to sign. No worries, mate.

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I used the same logic with Deebo and then BA...and here we are.

Huh? We didn't franchise either of them. I'm on record as saying when someone tells you they don't want to be here, to turn them around with money is never a lasting nor productive solution. We did that both times, their play was subpar both times, Deebo's now gone, and I think we're shopping Aiyuk already.

Brock has Never said he doesn't want to be here.

In all cases, the leverage was the same. Neither asked for a trade until they were not getting the money they wanted. The team caved both times while having "leverage". Why would I anticipate that this time would be different other than I don't see Brock pulling that move...hold out possibly, but not asking for a trade.

We didn't control Aiyuk for another year at $5.1m. That's the leverage. We did control Deebo the first time on his 2nd round rookie deal for one more year, which I assume was more than 5m, but the point remains, don't ever cut a long term deal to someone that tells you they don't want to be here. Coming back for money does not change the fact that they want out, and they will still be searching for another way. I wouldn't cut a long term deal with Brock either if he was asking for a trade. He'd play for $5m, and we'd see where everybody is in a year. That's leverage.

Originally posted by Monsterniner:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
"The decision to let juice walk signals an evolution to the 49ers offensive scheme. Shanahan will go more two tight end and adpat to purdys strengths as the next progression." (paraphrasing)

- D. Lombardi

and now juice is back lol

And he said yesterday that Juice is back because he is a cornerstone of the team and we all should be thankful that he is still here because Shanahan knows what he is doing.

Funny thing is that he may not of been wrong. If we lost juice, Kyle would probably run the two tight end scheme more. He would be hard to immediately replace.

but yeah, I like Lombardis optimism. He sees the glass as always half full. Some people don't like that he puts lipstick on a pig, sometimes. I like him as a content creator but I don't agree with everything he says.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
It's projected at $41m for 2026 and $51m for 2027, so with his $5m this year, he'd get $97m over three years, or $32.3m/yr average for the three years. How can that look better to him than signing a long term contract with lots of guaranteed money and cash up front? The team has the leverage, and he has to sign. No worries, mate.

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Yeah but the way that impacts the salary cap, the franchise tag, is brutal.

if we sign an extension with Brock, we can make his cap hit in the 15-25M range for the first 3-4 years (look at Jalen hurts).

if we do the franchise tag, the entire tag price is an entire chunk of the salary cap. Much much much Much less cap flexibility. So his cap hit in 2026 and 2027 would be $41M and 51M. Making him one of the highest cap hits in the league.

for context, hurts signed a $50M+ extension (like Brocks) deal but the first four years cap hits are
2023: $6.1M
2024: $13.4M
2025: $21.8M
2026: $31.9M

so using the franchise tag would be very dumb, lol it's not really a saving at all. It hurts the next few years. We would have to pay Brock in one year (for one year of play) what hurts cap hit was for four years. Which his cap number is a big reason they've maintained a great team around him.

Ive been saying for a long time now - I hope he does a structure like what hurts did (triple option structure).

I think you missed the point I made that he has to sign. If he doesn't want to stay here and play for Kyle, he doesn't have to do anything. I'll argue he has to do that too, because he can't possibly know he'd do as well elsewhere. If he really doesn't sign, we play him for $5.1m, and then have current knowledge to decide whether to again trying to sign him, franchise him, or trade him. Still don't see how that benefits him long term, he's not stupid or vindictive, and I just don't see it happening.

Ah, yeah. If he doesn't want to sign - then we can rock with him on his rookie deal and then tag/trade next off season.

I want Brock here and for him to sign a good deal for both parties. I'd be shocked if he didn't want to be here, it's really an excellent system for him - just like our system benefits having his skill set.

I think it'll get worked out sooner than later. I'd be surprised if Brock was going for the full money grab (short deal with as much as possible annually and guaranteed). That would hamstring us.

based on market, he easily deserves at least $52.5M - anything short of that would be hard to make the argument that is his "worth". Too many qbs have been paid that he's better than. (I'm not saying you said that - I'm just thinking out loud).

I hope his contract is finalized before the draft.

Me too.

I think the total and guaranteed is an inverse sliding scale. If he wants more top line, then he takes more risk on injury, and conversely.

Franchise tag him..

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Franchise tag him..

We don't need to. He has another year on his contract

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
It's projected at $41m for 2026 and $51m for 2027, so with his $5m this year, he'd get $97m over three years, or $32.3m/yr average for the three years. How can that look better to him than signing a long term contract with lots of guaranteed money and cash up front? The team has the leverage, and he has to sign. No worries, mate.

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Yeah but the way that impacts the salary cap, the franchise tag, is brutal.

if we sign an extension with Brock, we can make his cap hit in the 15-25M range for the first 3-4 years (look at Jalen hurts).

if we do the franchise tag, the entire tag price is an entire chunk of the salary cap. Much much much Much less cap flexibility. So his cap hit in 2026 and 2027 would be $41M and 51M. Making him one of the highest cap hits in the league.

for context, hurts signed a $50M+ extension (like Brocks) deal but the first four years cap hits are
2023: $6.1M
2024: $13.4M
2025: $21.8M
2026: $31.9M

so using the franchise tag would be very dumb, lol it's not really a saving at all. It hurts the next few years. We would have to pay Brock in one year (for one year of play) what hurts cap hit was for four years. Which his cap number is a big reason they've maintained a great team around him.

Ive been saying for a long time now - I hope he does a structure like what hurts did (triple option structure).

I think you missed the point I made that he has to sign. If he doesn't want to stay here and play for Kyle, he doesn't have to do anything. I'll argue he has to do that too, because he can't possibly know he'd do as well elsewhere. If he really doesn't sign, we play him for $5.1m, and then have current knowledge to decide whether to again trying to sign him, franchise him, or trade him. Still don't see how that benefits him long term, he's not stupid or vindictive, and I just don't see it happening.

Ah, yeah. If he doesn't want to sign - then we can rock with him on his rookie deal and then tag/trade next off season.

I want Brock here and for him to sign a good deal for both parties. I'd be shocked if he didn't want to be here, it's really an excellent system for him - just like our system benefits having his skill set.

I think it'll get worked out sooner than later. I'd be surprised if Brock was going for the full money grab (short deal with as much as possible annually and guaranteed). That would hamstring us.

based on market, he easily deserves at least $52.5M - anything short of that would be hard to make the argument that is his "worth". Too many qbs have been paid that he's better than. (I'm not saying you said that - I'm just thinking out loud).

I hope his contract is finalized before the draft.

He wouldn't make close to that figure in f/a. His value is tied to Kyle, our system and this team. If he threatened to walk, let him. He's not Josh Allen who would find success on any offensive system he needs to be here.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

It's projected at $41m for 2026 and $51m for 2027, so with his $5m this year, he'd get $97m over three years, or $32.3m/yr average for the three years. How can that look better to him than signing a long term contract with lots of guaranteed money and cash up front? The team has the leverage, and he has to sign. No worries, mate.

Yeah but the way that impacts the salary cap, the franchise tag, is brutal.

if we sign an extension with Brock, we can make his cap hit in the 15-25M range for the first 3-4 years (look at Jalen hurts).

if we do the franchise tag, the entire tag price is an entire chunk of the salary cap. Much much much Much less cap flexibility. So his cap hit in 2026 and 2027 would be $41M and 51M. Making him one of the highest cap hits in the league.

for context, hurts signed a $50M+ extension (like Brocks) deal but the first four years cap hits are
2023: $6.1M
2024: $13.4M
2025: $21.8M
2026: $31.9M

so using the franchise tag would be very dumb, lol it's not really a saving at all. It hurts the next few years. We would have to pay Brock in one year (for one year of play) what hurts cap hit was for four years. Which his cap number is a big reason they've maintained a great team around him.

Ive been saying for a long time now - I hope he does a structure like what hurts did (triple option structure).

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I think you missed the point I made that he has to sign. If he doesn't want to stay here and play for Kyle, he doesn't have to do anything. I'll argue he has to do that too, because he can't possibly know he'd do as well elsewhere. If he really doesn't sign, we play him for $5.1m, and then have current knowledge to decide whether to again trying to sign him, franchise him, or trade him. Still don't see how that benefits him long term, he's not stupid or vindictive, and I just don't see it happening.

Ah, yeah. If he doesn't want to sign - then we can rock with him on his rookie deal and then tag/trade next off season.

I want Brock here and for him to sign a good deal for both parties. I'd be shocked if he didn't want to be here, it's really an excellent system for him - just like our system benefits having his skill set.

I think it'll get worked out sooner than later. I'd be surprised if Brock was going for the full money grab (short deal with as much as possible annually and guaranteed). That would hamstring us.

based on market, he easily deserves at least $52.5M - anything short of that would be hard to make the argument that is his "worth". Too many qbs have been paid that he's better than. (I'm not saying you said that - I'm just thinking out loud).

I hope his contract is finalized before the draft.

He wouldn't make close to that figure in f/a. His value is tied to Kyle, our system and this team. If he threatened to walk, let him. He's not Josh Allen who would find success on any offensive system he needs to be here.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
It's projected at $41m for 2026 and $51m for 2027, so with his $5m this year, he'd get $97m over three years, or $32.3m/yr average for the three years. How can that look better to him than signing a long term contract with lots of guaranteed money and cash up front? The team has the leverage, and he has to sign. No worries, mate.

Yeah but the way that impacts the salary cap, the franchise tag, is brutal.

if we sign an extension with Brock, we can make his cap hit in the 15-25M range for the first 3-4 years (look at Jalen hurts).

if we do the franchise tag, the entire tag price is an entire chunk of the salary cap. Much much much Much less cap flexibility. So his cap hit in 2026 and 2027 would be $41M and 51M. Making him one of the highest cap hits in the league.

for context, hurts signed a $50M+ extension (like Brocks) deal but the first four years cap hits are
2023: $6.1M
2024: $13.4M
2025: $21.8M
2026: $31.9M

so using the franchise tag would be very dumb, lol it's not really a saving at all. It hurts the next few years. We would have to pay Brock in one year (for one year of play) what hurts cap hit was for four years. Which his cap number is a big reason they've maintained a great team around him.

Ive been saying for a long time now - I hope he does a structure like what hurts did (triple option structure).

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I think you missed the point I made that he has to sign. If he doesn't want to stay here and play for Kyle, he doesn't have to do anything. I'll argue he has to do that too, because he can't possibly know he'd do as well elsewhere. If he really doesn't sign, we play him for $5.1m, and then have current knowledge to decide whether to again trying to sign him, franchise him, or trade him. Still don't see how that benefits him long term, he's not stupid or vindictive, and I just don't see it happening.

Ah, yeah. If he doesn't want to sign - then we can rock with him on his rookie deal and then tag/trade next off season.

I want Brock here and for him to sign a good deal for both parties. I'd be shocked if he didn't want to be here, it's really an excellent system for him - just like our system benefits having his skill set.

I think it'll get worked out sooner than later. I'd be surprised if Brock was going for the full money grab (short deal with as much as possible annually and guaranteed). That would hamstring us.

based on market, he easily deserves at least $52.5M - anything short of that would be hard to make the argument that is his "worth". Too many qbs have been paid that he's better than. (I'm not saying you said that - I'm just thinking out loud).

I hope his contract is finalized before the draft.

He wouldn't make close to that figure in f/a. His value is tied to Kyle, our system and this team. If he threatened to walk, let him. He's not Josh Allen who would find success on any offensive system he needs to be here.

I could get a better head coach long before I could get a better quarterback.

Originally posted by jcs:
He wouldn't make close to that figure in f/a. His value is tied to Kyle, our system and this team. If he threatened to walk, let him. He's not Josh Allen who would find success on any offensive system he needs to be here.

Do you realize how many teams now run a version of Kyle's offense?

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Izyniner:

Originally posted by random49er:

I dont think past accomplishments are going to move the needle. I think how good you are as a player (your level of play right now) and future projections of how good you're likely to be in the immediate future is what's going to get you alot of this GTD money.

How do you get a future projection without using past accomplishments as your base?

So your projection for how Jalen Hurts will play in the future is mainly based on him winning the SB MVP? What about other QBs that have won it or got there in recent memory.... Nick Foles (MVP), Flacco (MVP), Trent Dilfer, Jake Delhomme, Matt Hasselbeck, the list goes on. You really doing this?

You go with past "team accomplishments",....I'll go along with the NFL brass,...which is what I actually see regarding how they're playing on the field, the talent I can see or gauge, et. al.

Jalen Hurts latest isn't all about winning the SB. How he played last year overall and how he plays in general when certain situations arise are all part of those evaluations.

Teams don't just pay for SB wins. They're big parts of negotiations of course but teams watch tape, they understand how their own guy is used, how they can hide his deficiencies and how he may look if things aren't perfect around him.

But past accomplishments are certainly a part of the evaluation. If you show you're able to play at a high level and don't completely fall apart when few things are going right that's a good indicator of future success.

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Getting to a SB doesn't show you're capable of playing at a high level. Playing at a high level shows you're capable of playing at a high level.

Yep, and we have seen it from Hurts and Purdy.

And plenty of others before them. (Getting to a SB that is)

Sure.

I was agreeing with you about those two proving themselves not by getting to a Superbowl but by playing at a high level.

Originally posted by 49ers808:
He's such a douchebag lol

C'mon dave isn't bad. When did people started hating on him?? He's right more often than not on his takes