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QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by 9erson3:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by bud49:
Well WR's getting 40 million a year 112 million guaranteed and a CB get around 30 million a year 89 million guaranteed. Looks like Brocks gonna be around 55 million or more a year.

Brock could easily get $55M+ if he wanted to push the envelope. Now would the team pay? Who knows. He could play out his contract and force a trade. Someone would pay him dak money IMO.

let's hope it's a win/win agreement. Give the team flexibility for the next couple years and Brock securing generational wealth.

Those examples are the Mahomes/Josh Allen types of their respective positions. You can't randomly say this guy from this non-QB group got this much so Brock should get...

Brock is not in the Mahomes/Allen discussion category for players all positions. Meaning those other examples posted are very top tier.

And I am not Brock hater. Quite the opposite but we paid a certain QB here the tops in the league once. He completely regressed. Have we not learned our lesson? How can a rookie QB picked last in the draft who sat almost an entire year(I don't count that year) had a really really nice year and then an average to below average year so TWO YEARS TWO YEARS be paid $60m a year. BS. This has Jimmy G written all over it. I hope Lynch plays hardball. It seems with this purging year they are finally getting it.

This is nonsense.

Look at the numbers



When you remember the fact that the reigning OPOTY was missing most of the year, that his All Pro WR was out most of the year. The regression by the team overall on defense and special teams and Deebo having another tough season.

Was there regression? Of course, that's going to happen when you're missing key players around you and you're forced to do more with less. That happens to every QB when they lose key players and don't have others who can step up.

Some of you act like Purdy looked like Alex Smith as a rookie for crying out loud.
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by socalfan21:
Originally posted by random49er:
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The playing at a high level thing was a general statement.

Hurts and Purdy both got to Super Bowls. If you think both play at a high level, that is your own individual opinion.

Hurts is a top 20 QB who was playing with an elite defense. I'd compare his play to a Trent dilfer. Purdy actually had to drag that corpse of a team to the Super Bowl, especially in the NFCC. Shanahan f**ked around with the packers and lions and purd pulled them through.

Corps of a team?

He had all pro kittle, cmc, juice, a healthy trent and deebo, jennings vs GB and a fairly healthy and loaded D. He had all pro kittle, cmc, juic3 and aiyuk with a healthy trent and deebo, jennings as well as a loaded D against the lions. Not sure we saw the same games

There is a middle ground between both of you guys.

The team was FAR from a corpse however the defense was not playing well at all in the playoffs. They did get on track but there was a reason coaches had to have the "effort" talk heading into the SB. I'd also saying not having Clelein Ferrell and Hufanga definitely hurt our ability to stop the run. Once Greenlaw got hurt in the SB that was the killer of course.

The OL also was far from anything to write home about. Deebo was also playing hurt from the GB injury.

So like I said...somewhere in the middle is the correct analysis. Certainly when compared to the team Hurts had around him it's not a contest. Eagles were incredibly healthy going into the SB and had studs across the board. Virtually no weaknesses. Hell they even got solid play from Oren Burks because their DL and secondary was so good...also didn't hurt that KC was dealing with major pass pro issues.
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by captveg:
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Yeah, that's not how this business works. That downturn was way too minimal to panic over. There's almost no value in playing that card. You either extend him with a contract worthy of his career experience, or you trade him to a team that will. Anything else is just spinning in circles and wasting time.

He's under contract and locked in for 3 yrs if we want.

Realistically no one uses that option because it's wasteful and contentious less secure.
No players "WANT" that option because it's "LESS SECURE."

You are completely lost if you think the threat of it does not help the owners over and over again. It's used constantly; it's being used with Brock right now, whether we later enact it or not.

It takes 2 sides to agree. If he completely bombs next yr, then maybe we wont use it after all.
[ Edited by random49er on Mar 17, 2025 at 12:46 PM ]
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
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I do, how about you?

No.

You don't think Purdy has played at a high level?

2023 he was playing elite. He was pretty good last year too IMO.

You 're getting yourself twisted with vocab again. The post says "play",...which infers right now if not continually.

When you sneak in the "-ed" later in the convo, you create a completely different topic. Last year was 2024, not 2023.

We eventually come full-circle: getting to a SB does not etch your name in stone as a "high level" player for the foreseeable future. That's kinda insane to suggest.
Originally posted by bud49:
Well WR's getting 40 million a year 112 million guaranteed and a CB get around 30 million a year 89 million guaranteed. Looks like Brocks gonna be around 55 million or more a year.

Ok but by when?
Originally posted by 9erson3:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by 9erson3:
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Those examples are the Mahomes/Josh Allen types of their respective positions. You can't randomly say this guy from this non-QB group got this much so Brock should get...

Brock is not in the Mahomes/Allen discussion category for players all positions. Meaning those other examples posted are very top tier.

And I am not Brock hater. Quite the opposite but we paid a certain QB here the tops in the league once. He completely regressed. Have we not learned our lesson? How can a rookie QB picked last in the draft who sat almost an entire year(I don't count that year) had a really really nice year and then an average to below average year so TWO YEARS TWO YEARS be paid $60m a year. BS. This has Jimmy G written all over it. I hope Lynch plays hardball. It seems with this purging year they are finally getting it.

Yep. Our lesson is don't give the big bucks betting on someone learning something. Our certain quarterback played his best when he just played loose and wasn't expected to run an offense. He never did get better at that. Our current quarterback already has the headwork down and is a sure thing. And he certainly wasn't "below average", even with limited targets available all year. You don't get worse with headwork.

I respect the rebuttal but it's time on the clock that cannot be disputed. I hope he turns out to be the greatest QB we have ever had and we win a SB or two or more!. I really do love Brock in most regards. My only caution to the wind is someone with very little experience still, despite fan projections, still needs another year or two to form an honest opinion. He should not be walking from a couple of years to near highest paid in league. What logic is that? Fans will say next man up, that's what they do, that is the golden rule, I hope John flushes that opinion quickly.

And go Brock- glad you are here. Let's get busy (again)

You say your stated time on the clock can't be disputed, so I've got to do it. You discount his first year entirely. He came off the bench with virtually No reps, at Any time, and won all 6 season games he played. He scored at least 33 points in all but one. Defenses tried the proven strategy of blitizing the cr@p out of the rookie, and he made them pay for it every game. He won both playoff games he played handily, and finished the season with a 107.3 quarterback rating. He had us in the championship game with a very real chance to take us to a Super Bowl in his rookie year when he had the devastating elbow injury. Many of us realized this guy has got it right then and there.

His second year was indeed "really really" nice.

Last year defenses didn't have to cover many competent receivers, but his performance was still pretty good.

I've got a different take on why it wasn't better. Kyle Shanahan was a beaten man. He had just lost the big one again, and this time, his disgraceful blame shifting to his fictitious "analytics department" not withstanding, he knew he'd blown it. He has an 8 year history of very poor performance protecting a lead late in big games, and likewise has a very poor percentage of winning from behind late in games. Kyle looked like he was on autopilot last year. He would never adjust to screens or play action when the defenses were begging for it, and of course he Never allows quarterbacks to change his plays. Brock didn't have a chance.

It's not time on the job that counts. Once you get significant experience, more is marginally beneficial. It's aptitude for the job that separates the men from the boys. That applies to head coaches, as well as quarterbacks. I know Brock has got it.
Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by random49er:

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No.

You don't think Purdy has played at a high level?

2023 he was playing elite. He was pretty good last year too IMO.

You 're getting yourself twisted with vocab again. The post says "play",...which infers right now if not continually.

When you sneak in the "-ed" later in the convo, you create a completely different topic. Last year was 2024, not 2023.

We eventually come full-circle: getting to a SB does not etch your name in stone as a "high level" player for the foreseeable future. That's kinda insane to suggest.

You said playing at a high level shows you're are capable of playing at a high level. Brock has shown he is capable of playing at a high level. That's what I meant.
Purdy played at an above average.level in 2024 but not elite like 2023 IMO.
[ Edited by TheWooLick on Mar 17, 2025 at 4:53 PM ]
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
You said playing at a high level shows you're are capable of playing at a high level.

You're confusing yourself further. Aaron Rodgers has "played" at a high level,....it doesn't mean he's worth a new $55M contract right now, though, because he's not "playing" at a high level right now. I hope you stayed with me there.

Past team accomplishments do not gauge your current level of individual ability. 2023 is not current.
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
You said playing at a high level shows you're are capable of playing at a high level.

You're confusing yourself further. Aaron Rodgers has "played" at a high level,....it doesn't mean he's worth a new $55M contract right now, though, because he's not "playing" at a high level right now. I hope you stayed with me there.

Past team accomplishments do not gauge your current level of individual ability. 2023 is not current.

If Aaron Rodgers wasn't in his 40s right now he would certainly be getting just that. You know why he's not and it has nothing to do with his ability.
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