QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Rumours of 60 mil....thats alot for Purdy. He isnt elite and if thinks he should get paid more than Allen and Joe Burrow, he can sit. Just because the current market trend is next QB up gets top dollar shouldnt mean the 49ers should continue the stupidity.

Let be clear here, nobody has Brock saying that. A reporter likely getting fed something by Brock's agent saying his opinion isn't the same as Brock saying it.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Rumours of 60 mil....thats alot for Purdy. He isnt elite and if thinks he should get paid more than Allen and Joe Burrow, he can sit. Just because the current market trend is next QB up gets top dollar shouldnt mean the 49ers should continue the stupidity.

Let be clear here, nobody has Brock saying that. A reporter likely getting fed something by Brock's agent saying his opinion isn't the same as Brock saying it.

The agent represents the player. If the agent is saying it, so is Brock.

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Rumours of 60 mil....thats alot for Purdy. He isnt elite and if thinks he should get paid more than Allen and Joe Burrow, he can sit. Just because the current market trend is next QB up gets top dollar shouldnt mean the 49ers should continue the stupidity.

Let be clear here, nobody has Brock saying that. A reporter likely getting fed something by Brock's agent saying his opinion isn't the same as Brock saying it.

The agent represents the player. If the agent is saying it, so is Brock.

Not how that works. Agents job is to get the best contract for his guy. This way they can push the Dak like deal idea out there and negotiate through the media. Brock may be perfectly fine making 40 and the agent is using this to push it further up.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Rumours of 60 mil....thats alot for Purdy. He isnt elite and if thinks he should get paid more than Allen and Joe Burrow, he can sit. Just because the current market trend is next QB up gets top dollar shouldnt mean the 49ers should continue the stupidity.

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Let be clear here, nobody has Brock saying that. A reporter likely getting fed something by Brock's agent saying his opinion isn't the same as Brock saying it.

The agent represents the player. If the agent is saying it, so is Brock.

Not how that works. Agents job is to get the best contract for his guy. This way they can push the Dak like deal idea out there and negotiate through the media. Brock may be perfectly fine making 40 and the agent is using this to push it further up.

Ya it is. The agent is an employee of the player which means Brock decides expectations and goals. The agent manages those criteria. If the goal is 40 million, then lets sign and move on.

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Rumours of 60 mil....thats alot for Purdy. He isnt elite and if thinks he should get paid more than Allen and Joe Burrow, he can sit. Just because the current market trend is next QB up gets top dollar shouldnt mean the 49ers should continue the stupidity.

Let be clear here, nobody has Brock saying that. A reporter likely getting fed something by Brock's agent saying his opinion isn't the same as Brock saying it.

The agent represents the player. If the agent is saying it, so is Brock.

Exavtly. I hate how ppl always just blame the agent. Like BA Bosa amd Deebo didn't want top dollar. They are working togehter. I think a lot of ppl do that b/c it just makes them feel better to blame the agent for being greedy over a player they like.

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Rumours of 60 mil....thats alot for Purdy. He isnt elite and if thinks he should get paid more than Allen and Joe Burrow, he can sit. Just because the current market trend is next QB up gets top dollar shouldnt mean the 49ers should continue the stupidity.

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Let be clear here, nobody has Brock saying that. A reporter likely getting fed something by Brock's agent saying his opinion isn't the same as Brock saying it.

The agent represents the player. If the agent is saying it, so is Brock.

Exavtly. I hate how ppl always just blame the agent. Like BA Bosa amd Deebo didn't want top dollar. They are working togehter. I think a lot of ppl do that b/c it just makes them feel better to blame the agent for being greedy over a player they like.

Yes.
And to add to that. Wbzers, atleast some, defend the greed of players over team. Last offseason was the epitome of player greed with BA and TW. There were plenty siding with the players and now the team suffers.

Am I really seeing rumors that Purdy could be traded? That's some Cra-Cra shiz!

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Rumours of 60 mil....thats alot for Purdy. He isnt elite and if thinks he should get paid more than Allen and Joe Burrow, he can sit. Just because the current market trend is next QB up gets top dollar shouldnt mean the 49ers should continue the stupidity.

Let be clear here, nobody has Brock saying that. A reporter likely getting fed something by Brock's agent saying his opinion isn't the same as Brock saying it.

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The agent represents the player. If the agent is saying it, so is Brock.

Not how that works. Agents job is to get the best contract for his guy. This way they can push the Dak like deal idea out there and negotiate through the media. Brock may be perfectly fine making 40 and the agent is using this to push it further up.

Ya it is. The agent is an employee of the player which means Brock decides expectations and goals. The agent manages those criteria. If the goal is 40 million, then lets sign and move on.

Thing is neither of us know what Brock's expectations and goals are. There is a difference between demanding $60 mil per year and taking it.

The agent putting something out there in the media without even his name behind it doesn't mean those are Brock's demands. Not to mention that im purely speculating that he was feeding that to Mike, could simply be Mike literally stating his opinion.

Either way there is a big difference in the idea that Brock won't sign for anything that's not in the Dak range as far as a deal - when it comes from his agent or Brock himself. And the fact that the agent pushing up the offer as much as possible and Brock takes the largest offer the team will put in front of him.

I doubt there has ever been a player who got a contract offer from his team and said "you know what, that's too much"

So until we get a report from Brock or his agent directly saying he's looking for $60 per type of deal it's all opinions and speculation.

Originally posted by lamontb:
Exavtly. I hate how ppl always just blame the agent. Like BA Bosa amd Deebo didn't want top dollar. They are working togehter. I think a lot of ppl do that b/c it just makes them feel better to blame the agent for being greedy over a player they like.

Deebo and BA took to social media and podcasts, both demanded trades as a way to get theirs. Nobody was questioning whether it was them or their agent pushing it…especially with BA's situation since his agent is one of Lynch's best friends.

Bosa we all understood he was going to take the 49ers for all their worth. We didn't need the social media stuff to figure that one was going to cost, especially after the year he had.

Purdy is a different situation so I don't think we need to make that analogy here. Just like everything about Nick said he's going to get paid big time, there is as much about Brock to say he's not looking to hold the team over a barrel in his negotiations.

Originally posted by genus49:
Yeah we kinda got that from the rest of your post.

I've watched plenty of Mac Jones to know I don't want him starting for us. Some of you may not appreciate the leadership and intangibles that QBs bring into games…somewhat ironic cuz Montana was one of the best at those things but Jones isn't it.

And unless we turn the OL up a notch for this season Mac is not going to handle the rush the way Brock does.

Also calling Brock mid tier is a joke imo unless your evaluations are strictly on arm talent and running ability, then again given how you think Mac is just as good maybe that's exactly what you're doing.

Every QB relies on talent around him. This last season was a perfect reminder of that across the board. Brock is no different.

Again, I'm the biggest Brock supporter but where do we rank him among QB's?

Tier 1
1- Josh Allen
2- Patrick Mahomes
3- Lamar Jackson
4- Joe Burrow
5- Jalen Hurts

Tier 2
6- Jayden Daniels
7- Baker Mayfield
8- Jared Goff

Tier 3
Jordan Love, Matthew Stafford, Justin Herbert, CJ Stroud, Sam Darnold

Statistically last year he was behind all those guys and right on par with Kyler Murray. Yes, Injuries played a big role in that but maybe that goes to show this is what he is without an all star cast around him. When we have a star studded cast of playmakers he put up better stats but with that big contract we won't be having the luxury of having that cast.

That's not a bad thing, we can win games with him but does that mean he is a 45-50 mil a year QB?

Darnold just signed for 3 years, 100 million but it's basically a 1 year, 37.5 mil contract.

I think the most I'd go is 45 mil with incentives like playoff wins.

45 puts him right in the middle of the pack but if he wants more than 55 which is what Lawrence, Tua and Love got I don't think we can pay him that.

Stand firm at 4 years, 180 million with incentives that can push the deal to 60 mil a year like passing yards, TDs, wins and playoff wins. If he gets the 60 mil that probably means we win the SB and none of us would be upset.

We hold all the cards here. We can't let another player hold us hostage like Deebo, Aiuyk and Trent did.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by genus49:
Yeah we kinda got that from the rest of your post.

I've watched plenty of Mac Jones to know I don't want him starting for us. Some of you may not appreciate the leadership and intangibles that QBs bring into games…somewhat ironic cuz Montana was one of the best at those things but Jones isn't it.

And unless we turn the OL up a notch for this season Mac is not going to handle the rush the way Brock does.

Also calling Brock mid tier is a joke imo unless your evaluations are strictly on arm talent and running ability, then again given how you think Mac is just as good maybe that's exactly what you're doing.

Every QB relies on talent around him. This last season was a perfect reminder of that across the board. Brock is no different.

Again, I'm the biggest Brock supporter but where do we rank him among QB's?

Tier 1
1- Josh Allen
2- Patrick Mahomes
3- Lamar Jackson
4- Joe Burrow
5- Jalen Hurts

Tier 2
6- Jayden Daniels
7- Baker Mayfield
8- Jared Goff

Tier 3
Jordan Love, Matthew Stafford, Justin Herbert, CJ Stroud, Sam Darnold

Statistically last year he was behind all those guys and right on par with Kyler Murray. Yes, Injuries played a big role in that but maybe that goes to show this is what he is without an all star cast around him. When we have a star studded cast of playmakers he put up better stats but with that big contract we won't be having the luxury of having that cast.

That's not a bad thing, we can win games with him but does that mean he is a 45-50 mil a year QB?

Darnold just signed for 3 years, 100 million but it's basically a 1 year, 37.5 mil contract.

I think the most I'd go is 45 mil with incentives like playoff wins.

45 puts him right in the middle of the pack but if he wants more than 55 which is what Lawrence, Tua and Love got I don't think we can pay him that.

Stand firm at 4 years, 180 million with incentives that can push the deal to 60 mil a year like passing yards, TDs, wins and playoff wins. If he gets the 60 mil that probably means we win the SB and none of us would be upset.

We hold all the cards here. We can't let another player hold us hostage like Deebo, Aiuyk and Trent did.

This. He certainly is not T1 more like bottom T2.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
The mass exodus of players and our front office having their spending taken away because they by were so careless might say so.

Of course the players want to win. But management might be trying to save money and get the cap in order as first priority.

Simply trying to rid the team of non-competitive players who got their bag.

Originally posted by scottym:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
The mass exodus of players and our front office having their spending taken away because they by were so careless might say so.

Of course the players want to win. But management might be trying to save money and get the cap in order as first priority.

Simply trying to rid the team of non-competitive players who got their bag.

This is the role of a good GM, pay players without giving away the bag while maintaining team integrity and leverage.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Again, I'm the biggest Brock supporter but where do we rank him among QB's?

Tier 1
1- Josh Allen
2- Patrick Mahomes
3- Lamar Jackson
4- Joe Burrow
5- Jalen Hurts

Tier 2
6- Jayden Daniels
7- Baker Mayfield
8- Jared Goff

Tier 3
Jordan Love, Matthew Stafford, Justin Herbert, CJ Stroud, Sam Darnold

One thing I think these rating lists don't take into account is growth potential. Brock, Jordan Love, we can make an assessment, but there's a good chance they will develop over the span of their contract (and some risk of regression). Allen, Lamar, etc. - you know what you're getting.
So I would say that strict tier ranking is only of limited use in Brock's case. It honestly wouldn't suprise me if he emerged as tier one, or regressed to tier 3 (less likely) over the next few years when all is said and done.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Rumours of 60 mil....thats alot for Purdy. He isnt elite and if thinks he should get paid more than Allen and Joe Burrow, he can sit. Just because the current market trend is next QB up gets top dollar shouldnt mean the 49ers should continue the stupidity.

Let be clear here, nobody has Brock saying that. A reporter likely getting fed something by Brock's agent saying his opinion isn't the same as Brock saying it.

The agent represents the player. If the agent is saying it, so is Brock.

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Not how that works. Agents job is to get the best contract for his guy. This way they can push the Dak like deal idea out there and negotiate through the media. Brock may be perfectly fine making 40 and the agent is using this to push it further up.

Ya it is. The agent is an employee of the player which means Brock decides expectations and goals. The agent manages those criteria. If the goal is 40 million, then lets sign and move on.

Thing is neither of us know what Brock's expectations and goals are. There is a difference between demanding $60 mil per year and taking it.

The agent putting something out there in the media without even his name behind it doesn't mean those are Brock's demands. Not to mention that im purely speculating that he was feeding that to Mike, could simply be Mike literally stating his opinion.

Either way there is a big difference in the idea that Brock won't sign for anything that's not in the Dak range as far as a deal - when it comes from his agent or Brock himself. And the fact that the agent pushing up the offer as much as possible and Brock takes the largest offer the team will put in front of him.

I doubt there has ever been a player who got a contract offer from his team and said "you know what, that's too much"

So until we get a report from Brock or his agent directly saying he's looking for $60 per type of deal it's all opinions and speculation.

Ya....its not like an agent would leak that to a reporter or anything.