QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Typecast:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by Montana:
Dude, f**k Aaron Rodgers dude lol, guy is washed up as heck..what are ppl on?

He had a better year statistically than Brock did last year

Rodgers had like 30 more yards passing, 1 fewer int, and 8 more touchdowns thrown with a better offensive line, better weapons for most of the season, and TWO extra games played.

And he is old, will want good money and is a team cancer

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by random49er:

Dallas giving out a stupid contract does not give Brock an ounce of more leverage. Dak's played under the franchise tag before. He knows what it feels like.

Maybe it gives him another thing to pout about? You can argue that but leverage due to Dallas' bad move? Doesn't make sense. We're not under any pressure to adhere to what Dallas does at all.

He can leverage "sitting out" from a team that's clearly in rebuild mode and see how far it gets him, though?

I just don't think we can cave to these negotiations.

He's under contract for one more year. We can franchise him two times after this year.

If he wants to hold out he can. But I don't think we cave to him like we did with Trent, Deebo and Aiuyk.

We have to set precedence here.

I like Josh Allen since he was a wild inaccurate rookie. Brock isn't the same playmaking, strong arm qb like Allen. But eventually they both need the same things to win a SB. Good defense, protection, and weapons on offense.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by genus49:
Yeah we kinda got that from the rest of your post.

I've watched plenty of Mac Jones to know I don't want him starting for us. Some of you may not appreciate the leadership and intangibles that QBs bring into games…somewhat ironic cuz Montana was one of the best at those things but Jones isn't it.

And unless we turn the OL up a notch for this season Mac is not going to handle the rush the way Brock does.

Also calling Brock mid tier is a joke imo unless your evaluations are strictly on arm talent and running ability, then again given how you think Mac is just as good maybe that's exactly what you're doing.

Every QB relies on talent around him. This last season was a perfect reminder of that across the board. Brock is no different.

Again, I'm the biggest Brock supporter but where do we rank him among QB's?

Tier 1
1- Josh Allen
2- Patrick Mahomes
3- Lamar Jackson
4- Joe Burrow
5- Jalen Hurts

Tier 2
6- Jayden Daniels
7- Baker Mayfield
8- Jared Goff

Tier 3
Jordan Love, Matthew Stafford, Justin Herbert, CJ Stroud, Sam Darnold

Statistically last year he was behind all those guys and right on par with Kyler Murray. Yes, Injuries played a big role in that but maybe that goes to show this is what he is without an all star cast around him. When we have a star studded cast of playmakers he put up better stats but with that big contract we won't be having the luxury of having that cast.

That's not a bad thing, we can win games with him but does that mean he is a 45-50 mil a year QB?

Darnold just signed for 3 years, 100 million but it's basically a 1 year, 37.5 mil contract.

I think the most I'd go is 45 mil with incentives like playoff wins.

45 puts him right in the middle of the pack but if he wants more than 55 which is what Lawrence, Tua and Love got I don't think we can pay him that.

Stand firm at 4 years, 180 million with incentives that can push the deal to 60 mil a year like passing yards, TDs, wins and playoff wins. If he gets the 60 mil that probably means we win the SB and none of us would be upset.

We hold all the cards here. We can't let another player hold us hostage like Deebo, Aiuyk and Trent did.

Well if you want my rankings then Jalen Hurts is nowhere near 5. As a matter of fact I have him and Brock around the same ball park and for our offense I'd rank Brock higher. They both have limitations in their game. Brock's are more physical where Jalen is more mental.

But I'd rank them like this as of this moment.

Mahomes
Allen
Lamar

slight gap

Burrow

substantial gap

Matt Stafford - mostly due to his overall game, veteran status/consistency and his fit in the offense he's in
Jayden Daniels - I may get burned on this cuz I had CJ Stroud ranked similarly the year prior after his rookie year and he took a step back but I loved everything about Jayden's game. Difficulty to defend him, playing with so so weapons, clutch factor. Special kid.
Justin Herbert
CJ Stroud
Baker/Brock
Goff
Love
Dak
Love

Bunch of young QBs who can make a big jump after this season too.

There was so much wrong with the team last year and not just on offense no QB was going to show up big time in that situation and given the results Brock put on the field with everything going on I actually believe more in him, not less.

But I don't expect everyone to see it the same way as me on the QB evaluations.

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Im not trading Purdy unless its for Mahomes, Allen or Burrow. And thats why I know Purdy is more than likely getting at least what Allen got for a contract and he wont get traded because you dont trade a QB who is just entering their prime for a QB who is probably retiring. You want at least a QB in return of equal value who will be around long enough to help your team win a title and Rodgers is not it.

Originally posted by genus49:
Well if you want my rankings then Jalen Hurts is nowhere near 5. As a matter of fact I have him and Brock around the same ball park and for our offense I'd rank Brock higher. They both have limitations in their game. Brock's are more physical where Jalen is more mental.

But I'd rank them like this as of this moment.

Mahomes
Allen
Lamar

slight gap

Burrow

substantial gap

Matt Stafford - mostly due to his overall game, veteran status/consistency and his fit in the offense he's in
Jayden Daniels - I may get burned on this cuz I had CJ Stroud ranked similarly the year prior after his rookie year and he took a step back but I loved everything about Jayden's game. Difficulty to defend him, playing with so so weapons, clutch factor. Special kid.
Justin Herbert
CJ Stroud
Baker/Brock
Goff
Love
Dak
Love

Bunch of young QBs who can make a big jump after this season too.

There was so much wrong with the team last year and not just on offense no QB was going to show up big time in that situation and given the results Brock put on the field with everything going on I actually believe more in him, not less.

But I don't expect everyone to see it the same way as me on the QB evaluations.

That's fair. I'd rank Brock about 10th with niners glasses on, 15th if I'm being realistic, lower if being a hater.

Most people would agree he tops out at 10, which is why there are people with an issue paying him top 5. I understand the market/etc. but it's hard for me to accept "cowboys, jags and dolphins did bad QB deals, niners need to also do a bad deal"

Who the f cares about a 'strong arm'? I just want an arm that gets it done. Allen's arm didn't get it done..Lance..didn't he have a strong arm too? Lol. Allen, good qb..but idk if he will ever win it all. He got fd over in that SB but..just couldn't get it done. Purdy didn't either but why is Allen better than Purdy? Cause he looks the part? Lol

Originally posted by Montana:
Who the f cares about a 'strong arm'? I just want an arm that gets it done. Allen's arm didn't get it done..Lance..didn't he have a strong arm too? Lol. Allen, good qb..but idk if he will ever win it all. He got fd over in that SB but..just couldn't get it done. Purdy didn't either but why is Allen better than Purdy? Cause he looks the part? Lol

Originally posted by genus49:
Well i you want my rankings then Jalen Hurts is nowhere nea 5. As a matter of fact I have him and Brock around the same ball park and for our offense I'd rank Brock higher. They both have limitations in their game. Brock's are more physical where Jalen is more mental.

But I'd rank them like this as of this momen

Mahomes
Allen
Lamar

slight gap

Burrow

substantial gap

Matt Stafford - mostly due to his overall game, veteran status/consistenc and his fit in the offense he's in
Jayden Daniels - I may get burned on this cuz I had CJ Stroud ranked similarly the year prior after his rookie year and he took a step back but I loved everything about Jayden's game. Difficulty to defend him, playing with so so weapons, clutch factor. Special kid.
Justin Herbert
CJ Stroud
Baker/Brock
Goff
Love
Dak
Love

Bunch of young QBs who can make a big jump after this season too.

There was so much wrong with the team last year and not just on offense no QB was going to show up big time in that situation and given the results Brock put on the field with everything going on I actually believe more in him, not less.

But I don't expect everyone to see it the same way as me on the QB evaluations.

Justin Herbert

CJ Stroud
Baker/Brock
Goff
Love
Dak
Love

How many teams does love play for? Guy needs a raise.

Originally posted by Montana:
Who the f cares about a 'strong arm'? I just want an arm that gets it done. Allen's arm didn't get it done..Lance..didn't he have a strong arm too? Lol. Allen, good qb..but idk if he will ever win it all. He got fd over in that SB but..just couldn't get it done. Purdy didn't either but why is Allen better than Purdy? Cause he looks the part? Lol

You're not serious are you?

Originally posted by Montana:
Who the f cares about a 'strong arm'? I just want an arm that gets it done. Allen's arm didn't get it done..Lance..didn't he have a strong arm too? Lol. Allen, good qb..but idk if he will ever win it all. He got fd over in that SB but..just couldn't get it done. Purdy didn't either but why is Allen better than Purdy? Cause he looks the part? Lol

Yeah, who cares how hard the point guard passes the ball to his playmakers, this isn't an arm strength competition.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by Montana:
Who the f cares about a 'strong arm'? I just want an arm that gets it done. Allen's arm didn't get it done..Lance..didn't he have a strong arm too? Lol. Allen, good qb..but idk if he will ever win it all. He got fd over in that SB but..just couldn't get it done. Purdy didn't either but why is Allen better than Purdy? Cause he looks the part? Lol

You're not serious are you?

You need more than a strong arm. Herbert has a cannon and hasn't done anything in this league. Purdy has proven he can win games and he left the field in the SB overtime with the lead. Say what you want about Allen, and he is really good. Still hasn't gotten his team to a SB, and Purdy has. Facts are annoying

Originally posted by BP13:
You need more than a strong arm. Herbert has a cannon and hasn't done anything in this league. Purdy has proven he can win games and he left the field in the SB overtime with the lead. Say what you want about Allen, and he is really good. Still hasn't gotten his team to a SB, and Purdy has. Facts are annoying

Put Allen on that All Star squad and they don't lose a game.

I like Purdy but comparing him to Allen is absurd. The homerism is strong with these posts.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by BP13:
You need more than a strong arm. Herbert has a cannon and hasn't done anything in this league. Purdy has proven he can win games and he left the field in the SB overtime with the lead. Say what you want about Allen, and he is really good. Still hasn't gotten his team to a SB, and Purdy has. Facts are annoying

Put Allen on that All Star squad and they don't lose a game.

I like Purdy but comparing him to Allen is absurd. The homerism is strong with these posts.

I was going to post the same thought. No question that the 49ers had a better roster than ther Bills before all the injuries last season. A strong arm isn't the only requirement and not even one of the most important trait. A strong arm does allows you to make plays that aren't available for a QB with an average arm. Putting the ball on a line 40 yards downfield without having to put so much air under it that DBs can recover or WRs need to slow up. So it may not be the most important thing but it sure is nice to have.

It's clear that Purdy has a good grasp of Kyle's offense. He processes what he sees quickly and is highly competitive. If he had the measurables that scouts love he woudl have been a 1st round pick but he doesn't have them. He also would have been playing at Ohio State or Bama. Someplace other than Iowa State. He's not big. Doesn't have a strong arm and he's not fast. He can scramble and buy time but he's not a real running threat. Maybe the 49ers were lucky he doesn't have all the traits that teams love. If he did he wouldn't have been available with the last pick in the draft.