QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
I just don't think we can cave to these negotiations.

He's under contract for one more year. We can franchise him two times after this year.

If he wants to hold out he can. But I don't think we cave to him like we did with Trent, Deebo and Aiuyk.

We have to set precedence here.

Agree 100% with this!!!

The people saying Allen and purdy are close as QBs have to be trolling.

Last season Josh Allen had basically no one around him. His best WR was Shakir. The defense had very little. Yet, he was league MVP.

Not trying to completely s**t on purdy but if you put him on that bills team they aren't a playoff team.

Originally posted by BP13:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by Montana:
Who the f cares about a 'strong arm'? I just want an arm that gets it done. Allen's arm didn't get it done..Lance..didn't he have a strong arm too? Lol. Allen, good qb..but idk if he will ever win it all. He got fd over in that SB but..just couldn't get it done. Purdy didn't either but why is Allen better than Purdy? Cause he looks the part? Lol

You're not serious are you?

You need more than a strong arm. Herbert has a cannon and hasn't done anything in this league. Purdy has proven he can win games and he left the field in the SB overtime with the lead. Say what you want about Allen, and he is really good. Still hasn't gotten his team to a SB, and Purdy has. Facts are annoying

Purdy also lost a Super Bowl. Getting second place doesn't make you a better player. Winning it all however does carry some weight. The ones that haven't need to be graded on potential and physicaly Allen grades as this generations Elway. Purdy is an enigma…who does he compare to? Some want to believe he's like Joe cool but Joe never lost the biggest games.

I hesitate to believe the "Purdy needs an all-Star cast" line. The 49ers team has been pretty top-heavy with great, but expensive, stars. The depth has been suspect. Poor draft trades and underperforming free agent signings didn't help. Does this not factor into account for the evaluation?

Or, does "Purdy couldn't elevate Ronnie Bell, and doesn't belong with the higher level NfL QBs" sound reasonable.
(I haven't seen anybody say that, just using it as an example).

Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
I hesitate to believe the "Purdy needs an all-Star cast" line. The 49ers team has been pretty top-heavy with great, but expensive, stars. The depth has been suspect. Poor draft trades and underperforming free agent signings didn't help. Does this not factor into account for the evaluation?

Or, does "Purdy couldn't elevate Ronnie Bell, and doesn't belong with the higher level NfL QBs" sound reasonable.
(I haven't seen anybody say that, just using it as an example).

Last year shows how important CMC was to the team prior to CMC ailments. With a one two punch CMC and Purdy we were an insane duo with supporting players. When CMC went out Brock was not the same explosive player nor did he look the part that he could carry the team in many situations.

CMC should not be helping Brock get $60m a year unless he plans to share.

We need to see Brock another year.

Healthy CMC is god.

Tbh, all these arguments are played out. I guess, for some it's one way to pass the time lol

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Tbh, all these arguments are played out. I guess, for some it's one way to pass the time lol

100%. Just sign already. Really who cares if 40m or 60m. We will see how it all plays out this year no matter the cost. But it would be nice to see how this affects the cap one way or the other.. Brock is our guy. we know that so nothing really to discuss except for cap space and golden parachute if need be and it better be 9er gold just in case.

Originally posted by Ottawa49er:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
I just don't think we can cave to these negotiations.

He's under contract for one more year. We can franchise him two times after this year.

If he wants to hold out he can. But I don't think we cave to him like we did with Trent, Deebo and Aiuyk.

We have to set precedence here.

Agree 100% with this!!!

I still see nothing out there indicating these contract talks are nasty in any way.

However I will say, setting that precedence with your franchise QB vs a RB, LT going into his late 30s or a WR isn't exactly smart way to build a football team.

Though so many fans these days just want to start over so I guess that's one way to do it...

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
I hesitate to believe the "Purdy needs an all-Star cast" line. The 49ers team has been pretty top-heavy with great, but expensive, stars. The depth has been suspect. Poor draft trades and underperforming free agent signings didn't help. Does this not factor into account for the evaluation?

Or, does "Purdy couldn't elevate Ronnie Bell, and doesn't belong with the higher level NfL QBs" sound reasonable.
(I haven't seen anybody say that, just using it as an example).

Last year shows how important CMC was to the team prior to CMC ailments. With a one two punch CMC and Purdy we were an insane duo with supporting players. When CMC went out Brock was not the same explosive player nor did he look the part that he could carry the team in many situations.

CMC should not be helping Brock get $60m a year unless he plans to share.

We need to see Brock another year.

Healthy CMC is god.

CMC helps any QB out there because of the strain he puts on the defense.

However once again people act like Brock was hot garbage out there without him. He wasn't.

We had injuries and regression by almost every player on the team save Kittle, Jennings, Lenoir and McKivitz(that should tell you something)

I believe jonnydel talked about how much the CMC injury affected our offense - especially in the redzone. If we think back to the start of the season the offense was moving very well. We just kept stalling in the redzone. We started getting better after using Kittle more there and Brock running more(tied Kap's best rushing TD total) but then started suffering injuries that spiraled and the offense started sputtering as it became too much to overcome.

But the fact is we've seen Brock make plays without CMC out there. Yes he makes everything easier but let's not pretend Brock is a lost cause without him on the field.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by BP13:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by Montana:
Who the f cares about a 'strong arm'? I just want an arm that gets it done. Allen's arm didn't get it done..Lance..didn't he have a strong arm too? Lol. Allen, good qb..but idk if he will ever win it all. He got fd over in that SB but..just couldn't get it done. Purdy didn't either but why is Allen better than Purdy? Cause he looks the part? Lol

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You're not serious are you?

You need more than a strong arm. Herbert has a cannon and hasn't done anything in this league. Purdy has proven he can win games and he left the field in the SB overtime with the lead. Say what you want about Allen, and he is really good. Still hasn't gotten his team to a SB, and Purdy has. Facts are annoying

Purdy also lost a Super Bowl. Getting second place doesn't make you a better player. Winning it all however does carry some weight. The ones that haven't need to be graded on potential and physicaly Allen grades as this generations Elway. Purdy is an enigma…who does he compare to? Some want to believe he's like Joe cool but Joe never lost the biggest games.

The team lost that game, how did Purdy lose it? He played well enough to win, and walked off the field with the lead?

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Tbh, all these arguments are played out. I guess, for some it's one way to pass the time lol

100%. Just sign already. Really who cares if 40m or 60m. We will see how it all plays out this year no matter the cost. But it would be nice to see how this affects the cap one way or the other.. Brock is our guy. we know that so nothing really to discuss except for cap space and golden parachute if need be and it better be 9er gold just in case.

Pretty much.

Also, contract structure will be more critical than the per year average everyone keeps throwing around.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by BP13:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by Montana:
Who the f cares about a 'strong arm'? I just want an arm that gets it done. Allen's arm didn't get it done..Lance..didn't he have a strong arm too? Lol. Allen, good qb..but idk if he will ever win it all. He got fd over in that SB but..just couldn't get it done. Purdy didn't either but why is Allen better than Purdy? Cause he looks the part? Lol

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You're not serious are you?

You need more than a strong arm. Herbert has a cannon and hasn't done anything in this league. Purdy has proven he can win games and he left the field in the SB overtime with the lead. Say what you want about Allen, and he is really good. Still hasn't gotten his team to a SB, and Purdy has. Facts are annoying

Purdy also lost a Super Bowl. Getting second place doesn't make you a better player. Winning it all however does carry some weight. The ones that haven't need to be graded on potential and physicaly Allen grades as this generations Elway. Purdy is an enigma…who does he compare to? Some want to believe he's like Joe cool but Joe never lost the biggest games.

Purdy never left the field in that SB with a deficit. He got the team the lead every time in the 4th quarter and in OT. He did that with a pretty bad OL and the majority of his so called avengers made key mistakes in big moments in that game.

What's funny to me is you bring up Purdy losing a SB in a back and forth on whether Allen is better than Purdy(he is) but Allen hasn't even been to the SB to lose it.

And as far as comparing Purdy to Montanta? Joe never had to deal with the salary cap. Joe also doesn't make his first SB and we don't remember The Catch if Joe's defense doesn't hold the lead. Do you recall what happened after Dwight caught that TD?



2:10:00 if you want to relive history
2:13:00 to see how close Joe came to not being able to enjoy The Catch and have a chance to win that first SB.

In fact had this game been played by today's rules - there is a flag on that tackle of Drew Pearson and Dallas gets into FG range down by 1.

Simply put - sometimes QBs do what they can and then it's up to the other part of their team to close out the win. Joe having a defense that was 2nd, 1st, 8th and 3rd in points allowed in his respective SB wins certainly helped with closing those closer games out.

Originally posted by genus49:

Purdy never left the field in that SB with a deficit. He got the team the lead every time in the 4th quarter and in OT. He did that with a pretty bad OL and the majority of his so called avengers made key mistakes in big moments in that game.

What's funny to me is you bring up Purdy losing a SB in a back and forth on whether Allen is better than Purdy(he is) but Allen hasn't even been to the SB to lose it.

And as far as comparing Purdy to Montanta? Joe never had to deal with the salary cap. Joe also doesn't make his first SB and we don't remember The Catch if Joe's defense doesn't hold the lead. Do you recall what happened after Dwight caught that TD?



2:10:00 if you want to relive history
2:13:00 to see how close Joe came to not being able to enjoy The Catch and have a chance to win that first SB.

In fact had this game been played by today's rules - there is a flag on that tackle of Drew Pearson and Dallas gets into FG range down by 1.

Simply put - sometimes QBs do what they can and then it's up to the other part of their team to close out the win. Joe having a defense that was 2nd, 1st, 8th and 3rd in points allowed in his respective SB wins certainly helped with closing those closer games out.

Yea it's hilarious that it literally comes down to our defense making a stop. Our defense makes the stop, and nobody questions Brock getting market value

They didn't make the stop so haters wanna dig in his pockets for it lol

This would've happened to Brady if Vinatieri missed the kick and the Rams walked off in OT. All the Bledsoe fans would've been s**tting on Brady after the Pats missed the playoffs in 02. All because Vinatieri missed a kick

i heard somewhere Brock is due for a contract extension. Has that been discussed on this board yet?

Why do the 49ers continue to drag out contract negotiations? I mean the Bengals have come to terms with Higgins and Chase, We're talking about the tight wad Bengals The Bengals. The Bengals.