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QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by genus49:
Are you for real? The ball is already OUT in that picture. Brock is one of the best QBs in the league at throwing with anticipation. You're doing some serious mental gymnastics acting like this is a standard throw top tier QBs make.

You want him to throw with anticipation that is an ELITE trait that Brock possess. Jennings was not open when Brock HAD to throw that ball and in that situation where you're in FG range that was 100% the right call not to try to put it on him with 2 defenders within striking distance.

Brock was overcoming bad OL play all year long - including getting us into the SB. What you're asking him to do is do something that's simply not standard regardless of how good of a QB is out there.

I'd love for you to find me a QB who makes that play in the exact same spot. Unblocked defender, run fake to take some time away and then throw outside to a spot before/as he's getting hit with 2 defenders in the area.

He literally threw it in Jennings area! He obviously knew what Jennings route was, and where the ball was supposed to be: on a rope to the sidelines. It was an inaccurate throw.

Now, you can say it's inaccurate because purdy was pressured. I wouldn't disagree. But as I said, sure would have been nice for our QB who wants to be paid $55m a year to stand and deliver an accurate ball (overcoming the protection breakdown).... But he wasn't able to do it.
Originally posted by bud49:
Originally posted by braap49er:
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No s**t? Oh yeah they will get it done before the season starts, between 50 and 55m. Wow what a big step out on a small branch. Wow.

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I adjusted QBs AYP from when they first signed extension based on annual increases in Salary Cap. I understand that not all these contracts are the same number of years, and the guaranteed money is different in each case. But here is an apple-to-apple comparison if they had each signed their extension this year.

$68.3 Joe Burrow
$65.6 Dak Prescott
$65.2 Justin Herbert
$64.6 Lamar Jackson
$63.4 Pat Mahomes
$63.3 Jalen Hurts
$61.8 Kyler Murray
$61.7 Deshaun Watson
$60.1 Trevor Lawrence
$60.1 Jordan Love
$58.0 Tua Tagovailoa
$57.9 Jared Goff
$55.0 Josh Allen
$53.6 Matthew Stafford
$53.6 Daniel Jones
$49.2 Kirk Cousins
$46.6 Aaron Rodgers
$46.6 Derek Carr
$36.4 Baker Mayfield
$33.5 Sam Darnold
$31.0 Geno Smith
[ Edited by CraigHR on Mar 26, 2025 at 10:37 PM ]
So, BP about 54-60 mil
He can't even play in the rain but we're gonna give him 50+

ShanaLynch keep chasing their tail this off-season.
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Originally posted by Monsterniner:
He can't even play in the rain but we're gonna give him 50+

ShanaLynch keep chasing their tail this off-season.

Most of those QB's who are getting paid can't even make it to a Conference Championship game. You act like there's 16 games of rain every season. Btw Purdy is 1-2 in bad weather games. He would've been 2-1 had Moody made the last second FG.
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by genus49:
Are you for real? The ball is already OUT in that picture. Brock is one of the best QBs in the league at throwing with anticipation. You're doing some serious mental gymnastics acting like this is a standard throw top tier QBs make.

You want him to throw with anticipation that is an ELITE trait that Brock possess. Jennings was not open when Brock HAD to throw that ball and in that situation where you're in FG range that was 100% the right call not to try to put it on him with 2 defenders within striking distance.

Brock was overcoming bad OL play all year long - including getting us into the SB. What you're asking him to do is do something that's simply not standard regardless of how good of a QB is out there.

I'd love for you to find me a QB who makes that play in the exact same spot. Unblocked defender, run fake to take some time away and then throw outside to a spot before/as he's getting hit with 2 defenders in the area.

He literally threw it in Jennings area! He obviously knew what Jennings route was, and where the ball was supposed to be: on a rope to the sidelines. It was an inaccurate throw.

Now, you can say it's inaccurate because purdy was pressured. I wouldn't disagree. But as I said, sure would have been nice for our QB who wants to be paid $55m a year to stand and deliver an accurate ball (overcoming the protection breakdown).... But he wasn't able to do it.

My guy, you're not being genuine here if you believe there are QBs out there who make this throw look routine, I don't care how much money they make.

It's easy to sit back and say these things from the couch but it's a whole other thing when in a split second the QB has to make the decision - put the ball at risk or be safe with it and give your team the lead in OT of the SB. Brock made the right decision.

Had he thrown that ball and god forbit JJ isn't ready for it and the ball is bobbled and taken away for a pick, potentially pick 6 to lose the SB. What do you think would be the talking point about Brock?

I can guarantee you there are plenty of posts in this very thread saying "Brock you have to understand the game situation and throw it away and get the points"

Please show me a comparable play where a QB made that throw.

Also can I just add how silly it is to play that card for a kid who was in his 2nd year in the NFL getting paid peanuts and not even eligible for a new contract yet to hold that over his head? Has Dak Prescott ever made that throw? We certainly know it wasn't in the SB. Tua? Hell...Lamar/Allen? Cuz you're not just talking about the throw itself, you're talking about the stakes of the throw and those guys haven't been in that game to see what they could've done in that situation with those stakes.
Originally posted by CraigHR:
I adjusted QBs AYP from when they first signed extension based on annual increases in Salary Cap. I understand that not all these contracts are the same number of years, and the guaranteed money is different in each case. But here is an apple-to-apple comparison if they had each signed their extension this year.

$68.3 Joe Burrow
$65.6 Dak Prescott
$65.2 Justin Herbert
$64.6 Lamar Jackson
$63.4 Pat Mahomes
$63.3 Jalen Hurts
$61.8 Kyler Murray
$61.7 Deshaun Watson
$60.1 Trevor Lawrence
$60.1 Jordan Love
$58.0 Tua Tagovailoa
$57.9 Jared Goff
$55.0 Josh Allen
$53.6 Matthew Stafford
$53.6 Daniel Jones
$49.2 Kirk Cousins
$46.6 Aaron Rodgers
$46.6 Derek Carr
$36.4 Baker Mayfield
$33.5 Sam Darnold
$31.0 Geno Smith

That's pretty cool. Thank you for that!
Originally posted by Monsterniner:
He can't even play in the rain but we're gonna give him 50+

ShanaLynch keep chasing their tail this off-season.

He's 2-0 in the playoffs in the rain.

Can we please stop this "can't play in the rain" narrative? Does it affect his game? Of course it does. Just like it affected Matt Stafford's game when we played them last year. Just like it affected John Elway's game considering he talked about how much he hated playing in the rain. Those two have top level arm talent.

The biggest reason it impacts us isn't even Brock's arm. It's the fact that we run a timing based offense and for some reason whether we're playing at home or on the road we're the team that keeps slipping more than the other guys(maybe check our equipment staff)

In a timing based offense if your receiver isn't at the depth you need him to be...you're going to look off. But off the top of my head we've had 3 rain games outside of the playoffs with Brock(someone please correct me if I missed other ones)

Cleveland in 2023 - Trent playing on one ankle, Deebo out, CMC out, Moody misses game winning FG and that's after the refs totally F us on defense letting Cleveland take the lead

Buffalo 2024 - snow game, Brock's first game back from shoulder injury, CMC and Mason get hurt. Not exactly a passing clinic for Josh Allen either.

Rams 2024 - Brock was playing better than Stafford in most of that game. Stafford only started making plays once Greenlaw got hurt, Campbell refused to come into the game and we had injured linebackers playing and had coverage breakdowns he took advantage of. Meanwhile Deebo drops a likely TD and Brock gets picked off throwing to JJ who was held with no call.

No QB likes playing in bad weather. But we were in both rain games we lost and the Buffalo game nothing was going right for us.
Originally posted by genus49:
My guy, you're not being genuine here if you believe there are QBs out there who make this throw look routine, I don't care how much money they make.

It's easy to sit back and say these things from the couch but it's a whole other thing when in a split second the QB has to make the decision - put the ball at risk or be safe with it and give your team the lead in OT of the SB. Brock made the right decision.

Had he thrown that ball and god forbit JJ isn't ready for it and the ball is bobbled and taken away for a pick, potentially pick 6 to lose the SB. What do you think would be the talking point about Brock?

I can guarantee you there are plenty of posts in this very thread saying "Brock you have to understand the game situation and throw it away and get the points"

Please show me a comparable play where a QB made that throw.

Also can I just add how silly it is to play that card for a kid who was in his 2nd year in the NFL getting paid peanuts and not even eligible for a new contract yet to hold that over his head? Has Dak Prescott ever made that throw? We certainly know it wasn't in the SB. Tua? Hell...Lamar/Allen? Cuz you're not just talking about the throw itself, you're talking about the stakes of the throw and those guys haven't been in that game to see what they could've done in that situation with those stakes.

You wanna see how a 55 mil qb handles business with the season on the line, go to 15:00 on the video

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Originally posted by genus49:
My guy, you're not being genuine here if you believe there are QBs out there who make this throw look routine, I don't care how much money they make.

It's easy to sit back and say these things from the couch but it's a whole other thing when in a split second the QB has to make the decision - put the ball at risk or be safe with it and give your team the lead in OT of the SB. Brock made the right decision.

Had he thrown that ball and god forbit JJ isn't ready for it and the ball is bobbled and taken away for a pick, potentially pick 6 to lose the SB. What do you think would be the talking point about Brock?

I can guarantee you there are plenty of posts in this very thread saying "Brock you have to understand the game situation and throw it away and get the points"

Please show me a comparable play where a QB made that throw.

Also can I just add how silly it is to play that card for a kid who was in his 2nd year in the NFL getting paid peanuts and not even eligible for a new contract yet to hold that over his head? Has Dak Prescott ever made that throw? We certainly know it wasn't in the SB. Tua? Hell...Lamar/Allen? Cuz you're not just talking about the throw itself, you're talking about the stakes of the throw and those guys haven't been in that game to see what they could've done in that situation with those stakes.

Who said anything about routine?? I already said there are plenty of QBs in the NFL who would do what Brock did and fail to make the play. I said it'd be nice if Brock could've made that great/elite level throw but he didn't.

As far as a potential pick 6, you throw that at the sidelines on a rope, it's not getting picked lol come on.

Anyhow, not much else to argue over. Brock is a good, not great, QB. I support resigning him but tough pill to swallow if that amount gets into the $55m range.
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
You wanna see how a 55 mil qb handles business with the season on the line, go to 15:00 on the video


"The jags, cowboys, packers and dolphins gave out a dumb contract, niners should too!"
Originally posted by braap49er:

Dude better become an elite QB. I don't want to hear any BS if Kittle/CMC/Yuk miss time and Brock looks like he did last year. Allen, Lamar and Mahomes minus Kelce don't have those types of dudes. Dude needs to elevate the talent around him for that money.
[ Edited by ninersrule4 on Mar 27, 2025 at 7:12 AM ]
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
You wanna see how a 55 mil qb handles business with the season on the line, go to 15:00 on the video


"The jags, cowboys, packers and dolphins gave out a dumb contract, niners should too!"

And what would a "smart" contract be? $50M instead of $55M?

And while they're not as good as Mahomes, their contracts aren't exactly "dumb." If those four teams were to call a bottom feeder team without an QB and ask about a trade, they would at least get positive value for them. It's not like a DeShaun Watson or Daniel Jones contract where you would be forced to eat it.

All that said, I would love to get Purdy at $50M instead of $55M.
[ Edited by Fanaticofnfl on Mar 27, 2025 at 7:18 AM ]
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
You wanna see how a 55 mil qb handles business with the season on the line, go to 15:00 on the video


"The jags, cowboys, packers and dolphins gave out a dumb contract, niners should too!"

It's the price of a starting qb because they are scarce. You either pay your guy or hope it doesn't take another 30 years to find somebody better

Then you build a team. Eagles and Lions did it paying their QBs 20% of cap, so that's proof that it's not the qb contracts that make those teams bad
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