QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Niners99:
People need to just get over the fact that QB's get PAID. Thats just the market.

I don't think anyone's really upset right now,....outside of the Purdy camp anyways.

There's just some difference of opinion on what's going to happen and where our guy is truly slotted at within those range of QBs by the 49ers.

Nothing to really "get over" ; we'll just see how the numbers work out when Purdy's already "locked in" with little wiggle room for as much as 3 yrs.

That's what this comes down to: longterm "belief" alot more than some random number we'll see in a headline.

The higher those GTD/yr averages are when they didnt have to lift a finger, the more longterm belief he obviously has within the organization.

Nothing to be upset about right now. Everything concerning the situation is in the 9ers favor.

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Its not about " getting over the fact that QBs get paid"

Allocating a large portion of your salary cap to one player has impacts on the roster. This is already showed its effects. If Purdy cannot play at a high level that aligns with the pay raise, we are in trouble.

Crazy thought…if the team thinks he can, then they pay him?

It's not a complicated thing here. If they believe in him they will get a deal done. If they don't then he'll likely have to play under his current deal and we see if it's a wise move by the team to bet against themselves.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Idk how many times Typecast gotta explain it. The franchise tag is bad business

For the owners, the "threat" of it is great business. It's virtually 100% team-beneficial and the threat of it will almost certainly get us a better deal with Brock.

The idea originated from team owners, specifically Pat Bowlen, the owner of the Denver Broncos, who wanted a way to retain key players like John Elway while allowing free agency to proceed. It was initially referred to as the "Elway Rule."

NFL players initially resisted the idea of the franchise tag when it was introduced in 1993. During negotiations for free agency and the salary cap, players were concerned that the tag would limit their ability to explore the open market and secure long-term contracts. While the franchise tag guaranteed a high salary for one year, many players viewed it as a tool that primarily benefited team owners by restricting player movement.

Ultimately, the franchise tag was accepted as part of the broader collective bargaining agreement (CBA), which included free agency—a major win for players. However, the tag has remained controversial, with many players continuing to criticize it for limiting their financial security and career flexibility.

Everything's not black and white. Being upset about your team taking advantage of leverage they may have is very suspect; do you want them to WIN? Or do you simply want to see a favorite player or 2 every weekend, and you're satisfied with that?

He should have been given away already if these smooth brains that drafted Trey still have questions. Franchise tag just pisses players off while backfiring on owners. I know we will not win going that route (games or contract), and I want to win. It also looks so low on their part to string his career along like that after he's made so little and saved jobs. Should have let him go if they still have no respect. You love the idea because you hate the player, but it really just looks bad and always backfires

We got a front office that doesn't know what it's doing or what they want. The same front office that got us to move off Mac to draft Trey. They are incompetent and it should be frustrating to you too

"Should have been given away already" -- I mean someone wants me to respond to full posts but I'm literally going to stop right here when nonsense like this is spouted, cause it kills the rest of the post.

As it relates to the salary cap, the 49ers should use whatever leverage they can to garner the best deals possible for 100% of our roster. No exceptions. This isint MLB baseball,...which would warrant an ENTIRELY different angle.

Avid fans of the 49ers that really do want the team to win are just fine with them doing whatever they can without letting an . If you are pissed off that your favorite player isint cared for the way you like -- and I'm having Jimmy G. flashbacks here -- it's really a personal issue regarding a player you love. It shouldn't really be included in "team discussion."

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Well to be honest, Brock Purdy has had trouble with Baltimore and KC. So yah he would have a tough time in the AFC playoffs. Purdy has shown he can beat the best in the NFC though.

So has Josh Allen.

He had better stats than Mahomes in that game and was right there till the very end. I wouldn't call that "having trouble." The team lost,...but football is more than a 1-man show.

Exactly which is why I hate the current trend of paying so much far the QB when he's dependent on his O line, receivers, RBs and even the OC. There are maybe 4 or 5 QBs that can succeed without a lot of top level talent and even those guys will struggle without some help.

I'm not against players getting paid but a more balanced salary structure would be nice. It might help keep teams together a little more.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Idk how many times Typecast gotta explain it. The franchise tag is bad business

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For the owners, the "threat" of it is great business. It's virtually 100% team-beneficial and the threat of it will almost certainly get us a better deal with Brock.

The idea originated from team owners, specifically Pat Bowlen, the owner of the Denver Broncos, who wanted a way to retain key players like John Elway while allowing free agency to proceed. It was initially referred to as the "Elway Rule."

NFL players initially resisted the idea of the franchise tag when it was introduced in 1993. During negotiations for free agency and the salary cap, players were concerned that the tag would limit their ability to explore the open market and secure long-term contracts. While the franchise tag guaranteed a high salary for one year, many players viewed it as a tool that primarily benefited team owners by restricting player movement.

Ultimately, the franchise tag was accepted as part of the broader collective bargaining agreement (CBA), which included free agency—a major win for players. However, the tag has remained controversial, with many players continuing to criticize it for limiting their financial security and career flexibility.

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Everything's not black and white. Being upset about your team taking advantage of leverage they may have is very suspect; do you want them to WIN? Or do you simply want to see a favorite player or 2 every weekend, and you're satisfied with that?

He should have been given away already if these smooth brains that drafted Trey still have questions. Franchise tag just pisses players off while backfiring on owners. I know we will not win going that route (games or contract), and I want to win. It also looks so low on their part to string his career along like that after he's made so little and saved jobs. Should have let him go if they still have no respect. You love the idea because you hate the player, but it really just looks bad and always backfires

We got a front office that doesn't know what it's doing or what they want. The same front office that got us to move off Mac to draft Trey. They are incompetent and it should be frustrating to you too

"Should have been given away already" -- I mean someone wants me to respond to full posts but I'm literally going to stop right here when nonsense like this is spouted, cause it kills the rest of the post.

As it relates to the salary cap, the 49ers should use whatever leverage they can to garner the best deals possible for 100% of our roster. No exceptions. This isint MLB baseball,...which would warrant an ENTIRELY different angle.

Avid fans of the 49ers that really do want the team to win are just fine with them doing whatever they can without letting an . If you are pissed off that your favorite player isint cared for the way you like -- and I'm having Jimmy G. flashbacks here -- it's really a personal issue regarding a player you love. It shouldn't really be included in "team discussion."

You expect a 25 year old that's made it to a pro bowl, made it to a sb, been an mvp candidate, and been ranked in top 10 every season, to sign for Kyler money. It's just delusional. If that's really what the FO wants then they should've traded him. You act like you want to win but you want to try to underpay a leader by 10 mil which will of course result in a circus act. I don't think 55 mil is even 20% of this years cap. Idk how you guys are tripping over that. It really is just a personal thing for you guys. We can still build a team, it just comes down to drafting

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Its not about " getting over the fact that QBs get paid"

Allocating a large portion of your salary cap to one player has impacts on the roster. This is already showed its effects. If Purdy cannot play at a high level that aligns with the pay raise, we are in trouble.

Purdy is 4-1 in the playoffs and had a season that got him MVP votes before age 25. You have to take the gamble with someone at the QB position if you want to win a SB. Relying on drafting a phenom who is going to be ready to win a SB on his rookie contract is a terrible strategy.

Paying $50+ mil a year for your QB is reality now. Some fans just cant cope with that.

Originally posted by Monsterniner:

Originally posted by Niners99:
Why would he do that? He's going to want to hit free agency again by 30. He isn't going to let the 49ers have him locked in for a decade when we all know they can get out of those deals whenever. Its all about guaranteed money.

Dak - 231 mil
Burrow - 219 mil
Lawrence - 200 mil
Tua - 167 mil
Love - 160 mil

He's probably going to want around 175 mil guaranteed.

People need to just get over the fact that QB's get PAID. Thats just the market. You can either pay up or rebuild. Purdy is young, he's a fast processor, hes won in the playoffs, and hes a great role model. The only reason people don't want to pay him is because he was a 7th round pick. If he were a 1st round pick everyone would be happy to give him 55+ mil.

No.

I don't want the team to give Purdy a huge contract because he can't play in bad weather, his arm strength is average at best, his can't see the target 40% of the time because he is short which means he has to throw to a certain area without knowing if the receiver is gonna be there which also means he wil get picked more and more every season, he has had 3 injuries in his already average throwing arm and he needs an all-world supporting cast to succeed just like all the other mid-tier QB's out there.

Purdy is the type of QB that you give a 3-year contract with 2 years of guaranteed money and no more of 45M per year and then you keep looking for someone better. If he wants to hold you let him hold because he might lose his job to McCorkle.

Love, Tua, Lawrence and Dak got money they didn't deserve and their teams are paying the price for it.

lol he has already proven himself. These are all lazy stereotypes that the media perpetuates for content and uneducated fans decide to run with. You either don't watch Niner games, or don't understand football.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
You expect a 25 year old that's made it to a pro bowl, made it to a sb, been an mvp candidate, and been ranked in top 10 every season, to sign for Kyler money. It's just delusional. If that's really what the FO wants then they should've traded him. You act like you want to win but you want to try to underpay a leader by 10 mil which will of course result in a circus act. I don't think 55 mil is even 20% of this years cap. Idk how you guys are tripping over that. It really is just a personal thing for you guys. We can still build a team, it just comes down to drafting

I'm fine with them trying to "underpay" everyone if it leads to good contracts and good players.

"Overpaying" certainly isint the recipe to success. I know that much.

And finding a "happy medium", that right number? hmmmmm. Well let's just say I'm glad that those in the front office are in charge of negotiating those numbers instead of trigger-happy fans pretending there's some kind of emergency where there isint and are stuck on their favorite player.

How we be like right now with Purdy lol...

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

You expect a 25 year old that's made it to a pro bowl, made it to a sb, been an mvp candidate, and been ranked in top 10 every season, to sign for Kyler money. It's just delusional. If that's really what the FO wants then they should've traded him. You act like you want to win but you want to try to underpay a leader by 10 mil which will of course result in a circus act. I don't think 55 mil is even 20% of this years cap. Idk how you guys are tripping over that. It really is just a personal thing for you guys. We can still build a team, it just comes down to drafting

I'm fine with them trying to "underpay" everyone if it leads to good contracts and good players.

"Overpaying" certainly isint the recipe to success. I know that much.

And finding a "happy medium", that right number? hmmmmm. Well let's just say I'm glad that those in the front office are in charge of negotiating those numbers instead of trigger-happy fans pretending there's some kind of emergency where there isint and are stuck on their favorite player.

lol there isn't even proof that your fantasy is playing out. They take forever with every player. I'm just saying what you want isn't a good idea and they will burn themselves with his contract and reputation going that route

Trying to disrespect every player leads to bad players. It leads to dudes not wanting to be here and playing like s**t even if they eventually wrestle the money from you (Aiyuk). You would have a terrible team and nobody would want to play for you if you think that's how you would run things

Originally posted by Niners99:
Purdy is 4-1 in the playoffs and had a season that got him MVP votes before age 25. You have to take the gamble with someone at the QB position if you want to win a SB. Relying on drafting a phenom who is going to be ready to win a SB on his rookie contract is a terrible strategy.

Paying $50+ mil a year for your QB is reality now. Some fans just cant cope with that.

Cap hits and percentages for the last several SB Winners:

2024: Hurts - $13.6M (5.3%)
2023: Mahomes - $46.8M (17.2%)
2022: Mahomes - $35.8M (20.8%)
2021: Stafford - $20M (11%)
2020: "The GOAT" - $25M (12.6%)

I mean hell....even TB12 recognized that he couldnt do it all on his own. Though it'll happen,...we have yet to have a QB hit the $50M mark in cap hit and they win a SB. The only guy that's came close,...we've literally seen him carry his entire team for 3 SB wins by now.

We're not jealous of any of the millions or not "coping" reality. It looks alot more like the reverse. The team's at least trying to be responsible in negotiations and some fans are lashing out like crazy because they cant cope with that.

Originally posted by Niners99:
Purdy is 4-1 in the playoffs and had a season that got him MVP votes before age 25. You have to take the gamble with someone at the QB position if you want to win a SB. Relying on drafting a phenom who is going to be ready to win a SB on his rookie contract is a terrible strategy.

Paying $50+ mil a year for your QB is reality now. Some fans just cant cope with that.

I'm a purdy fan but….

imagine paying someone 50+ million who can't play in the rain or snow? A fast but small player who is one injury away from just being small?

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
lol there isn't even proof that your fantasy is playing out. They take forever with every player. I'm just saying what you want isn't a good idea and they will burn themselves with his contract and reputation going that route

Huh? What do I want? lol.

I want THEM to find that "number," take their time if need be, and make sure they don't overpay from a salary cap standpoint.

They are around the guy day in, day out. I think they're in a much better standpoint to make that call than I am.

As far as the franchise tag,...I've seen nothing but good, proven players [at that stage of their careers] on that list:

1) Steve Young
2) Drew Brees
3) Kirk Cousins
4) Dak Prescott
5) Lamar Jackson

Hell....it'd be an honor if we choose to tag the guy, from his vantage point.

From ours it'll be phenomenal, because it'll mean he had a phenomenal year on the field and we've likely found our guy. A WIN-WIN scenario.

The middle ground is obvious, however: a cap-friendly deal that benefits him more NOW in 2025 than the $5M he's slotted for,...and helps us more later with reduced amounts on those cap hits, mixed in with an out clause or 2.

Originally posted by Big_Daddy:

Originally posted by Niners99:
Purdy is 4-1 in the playoffs and had a season that got him MVP votes before age 25. You have to take the gamble with someone at the QB position if you want to win a SB. Relying on drafting a phenom who is going to be ready to win a SB on his rookie contract is a terrible strategy.

Paying $50+ mil a year for your QB is reality now. Some fans just cant cope with that.

I'm a purdy fan but….

imagine paying someone 50+ million who can't play in the rain or snow? A fast but small player who is one injury away from just being small?

The weather narrative is dumb. He won a playoff game in the rain. And the last game in the rain, people seem to forget that Stafford was far worse in that game, and Deebo dropped a sure TD.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
You expect a 25 year old that's made it to a pro bowl, made it to a sb, been an mvp candidate, and been ranked in top 10 every season, to sign for Kyler money. It's just delusional. If that's really what the FO wants then they should've traded him. You act like you want to win but you want to try to underpay a leader by 10 mil which will of course result in a circus act. I don't think 55 mil is even 20% of this years cap. Idk how you guys are tripping over that. It really is just a personal thing for you guys. We can still build a team, it just comes down to drafting

There are two big issues with your post

1- It's not clear yet if Brock had success two years ago because of the talent around him and playing on a stacked team or if he can do it by himself and carry a team.

He's basically been a starter for two years. We have two years of tape and evidence. His first year he set a team record for passing, had 31 TD passes, voted to the Pro Bowl and was a MVP finalist and went to the SB. The second year he was league average and regressed.

What was the common denominator? Year 1 we were stacked at every position and stayed healthy. Year 2 we had injuries to all those same key players.

So, I think it's evident that unless Brock has an All Star cast supporting him we will see more of year two stats with him. Is that someone we want to pay 50+ million to?

2- You say the key is drafting and I agree but this regime has shown they are not capable of building through the draft and make questionable decisions. Their miss rate of prospects in rounds 1-3 is astonishing. If we didn't find late round gems like Kittle, Warner, Purdy and Lenoir we would be a bottom 3 team in the league.

Hoping we hit on 5th round picks and finding a starting QB with the last overall pick is not sustainable.